From jago at mclink.it  Tue Jun 17 21:59:37 2003
From: jago at mclink.it (Stefano Iacus)
Date: Tue Jun 17 20:59:42 2003
Subject: [Rd] Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R version on gifi
In-Reply-To: <E0AE6BA3-A0F1-11D7-929E-000393BB6D36@stat.ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <D751BC1C-A0F5-11D7-BCF0-003065CC4CB8@mclink.it>


On Marted?, giu 17, 2003, at 20:31 Europe/Rome, Jan de Leeuw wrote:

> Well, what happens if you say library(tcltk) and demo(tkdensity) in
> the R running in Xterm ?

well, you already know the answer. This version of RAqua is built  
against AquaTclTk, so it won't work. But the x11() device will work  
fine. In this case two different versions of tcltk are competing X11  
and AquaTclTk.

But what I meant is that the X11 (itself) part works fine. One can  
still configure Darwin R to use X11/TclTk.

I need to stress the fact that we are talking about two different  
aspects: distributed binaries and building options.

1. If the user downloads and installs RAqua is not because he wants to  
use X11 stuff inside RAqua! He probably doesn't know what X11 standa  
for!
2. If you, me, Don etc, want to use all the X11 stuff, using fink  
instead of other sources of prebuilt dlls, this is still possible...and  
surely none of us will try to mix things (aqua/x11)

What I don't understand from this thread is: is Don asking binaries for  
darwin/x11 or just asking for the possibility of continuing building  
Darwin R on his own and configure R in his preferred way? I think he is  
asking for the second alternative: in this case, this is still  
possible. Just don't configure with --with-aqua (who oblige us?) and  
specify X11/TclTk headers at config time, run it in xterm. Moreover,  
RAqua is built using a script inside src/modules/aqua which is not part  
of the make R procedure. So if you execute it is because you do want  
Aqua and not X11.

We can consider the possibility of distribute two versions of binaries:  
"a' la" "RAqua" and "a' la" Jan :)

stefano







>
> On Tuesday, Jun 17, 2003, at 11:25 US/Pacific, Stefano Iacus wrote:
>
>> To be more explicit: the RAqua I have built it is built to run under  
>> X11 as well, just execute it in an xterm window without specifying  
>> --gui-aqua. Nothing has changed!
>>
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[Rd] Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R version on gifi
Stefano Iacus