From Bernhard_Pfaff at fra.invesco.com  Fri Nov 25 16:24:12 2011
From: Bernhard_Pfaff at fra.invesco.com (Pfaff, Bernhard Dr.)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:24:12 +0000
Subject: [Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned
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On 25.11.2011 11:56, Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. wrote:
> Dear R-Devel subscriber,
>
> I would like to raise a topic and ask for your advice, guidance.
> Today on R-help an issue with a certain package popped up that has been removed from CRAN, because it failed the checks and/or the dependencies are not any longer available. The package maintainer has been alerted to this issue a couple of times and kindly asked to fix the code, such that it fullfills the CRAN requirements. However, neither a fix is applied, nor has the package been orphaned such that someone else could take over the ownership and rectify the package.
> In principal, and if I am not mistaken, one could simply take the code, fix it and release it (the package is under GPL-2). However, I would consider this as a rather rude approach. Hence, my question would be, if the R Core team can take the initiative, to declare the package as being orphaned after a 'warning period' has been elapsed in which the current maintainer is kindly asked to fix his package. Would it be feasible to ask R Core to orphan a package?
>
> Best,
> Bernhard
>
> ps: Incidentally, I am aware of the new 'orphaned package rules', in particular under the rubrique 'Possible reasons for orphanizing a package', point 2). In the case of the package in question, the maintainer does respond to emails, but either seems to lack action and/or has a different time scale and awareness of time.


As Duncan wrote already, CRAN is not run by R-core - as you probably know, I have already maintained parts of CRAN for quite some time before I became core member.

Let me as one of the CRAN maintainers add:

We know that orphaning would be a nice hint to the community, but it takes some work and given we have >> 3000 packages, many of them not well maintained, we have to archive or orphan many packages a year nowadays. Due the already huge amount of work CRAN maintenance generates, we simply cannot invest more time given the time constraints.

Note that we archive packages if a maintainer asks us to do so or if the maintainer is unresponsive on our requests to fix the package. Since we as CRAN maintainers were unsuccessful to contact or convince the maintainer to fix, we typically won't invest more time/work on such a package.

Of course, if someone wants to take over an archived package and cannot get a response from the maintainer (but first try to do so yourself!) then a request to take over as maintainer can be sent to CRAN.

Currently we are working on a new CRAN policy document that will soon be published. This document may clarify some further questions and establishes some stricter policies to reduce the workload of CRAN maintainers.

Best wishes,
Uwe Ligges

[bp>] Hello Uwe and Duncan,
[bp>]  many thanks for your swift replies and please take my sincere apologies for mixing up R Core and CRAN maintainers, both are accomplishing a great job. Given the immense workload that the ones involved in keeping CRAN up and running, it is more than fair enough that measures for economizing on this burden are taken.  So I will be patiently but eagerly await the new CRAN policy.
[bp>] 

Best,
Bernhard


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[Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned
Pfaff, Bernhard Dr.