From ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk  Sat Nov 23 10:11:39 2002
From: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk (ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:11:39 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rd] Small change to plot.xy
In-Reply-To: <3DDF52F0.701BB788@durham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0211231007350.4842-100000@gannet.stats>

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Jonathan Rougier wrote:

> ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk wrote:
>
> > > I can see that both of these have merit, but I think they are both easy
> > > to work around, if necessary.  No-one has disagreed that it's natural to
> > > want to pass a factor to col, and I believe that the vast majority of
> > > times when this occurs the factor is not designed explicitly to paint
> > > the points.
> >
> > I did disagree.  I don't see why users should not explicitly map the
> > factor levels to colours, which takes only a few extra characters.
> > People have been doing this for a decade in S without objecting.
> > Why is it worth complicating R for?
>
> That's the difference between us: you think they should have to type a
> few extra characters to achieve a natural result, and I don't.  It's two
> extra lines in the source and an extra line in the help file -- I don't
> call this a complication and I think that the next generation of
> statisticians will be that much more taken with R (as opposed to, say,
> SPSS) if we take the trouble to make the default behaviour as intuitive
> as possible.

No, the difference is that what you find `intuitive' other people find
perverse.  Giving a factor of colour names and getting a different set of
colours is perverse.  If the intention is not clear, it is more
`intuitive' to give an error than to guess incorrectly.

Does SPSS actually do this, that is arbitrarily assign colours to
categories that might be names of colours?

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[Rd] Small change to plot.xy
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