From ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk  Wed Oct 16 12:58:56 2013
From: ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk (Prof Brian Ripley)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:58:56 +0100
Subject: [Rd] randomForest: Numeric deviation between 32/64 Windows
	builds
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On 15/10/2013 14:00, Rosenberger George wrote:
> Dear R Developers
>
> I'm using the great randomForest package (4.6-7) for many projects and recently stumbled upon a problem when I wrote unit tests for one of my projects:
>
> On Windows, there are small numeric deviations when using the 32- / 64-bit version of R, which doesn't seem to be a problem on Linux or Mac.
>
> R64 on Windows produces the same results as R64/R32 on Linux or Mac:
>
>> set.seed(131)
>> importance(randomForest(Species ~ ., data=iris))
>               MeanDecreaseGini
> Sepal.Length         9.452470
> Sepal.Width          2.037092
> Petal.Length        43.603071
> Petal.Width         44.116904
>
> R32 on Windows produces the following:
>
>> set.seed(131)
>> importance(randomForest(Species ~ ., data=iris))
>               MeanDecreaseGini
> Sepal.Length         9.433986
> Sepal.Width          2.249871
> Petal.Length        43.594159
> Petal.Width         43.941870
>
> Is there a reason why this is different for the Windows builds? Are the compilers on Windows doing different things for 32- / 64-bit builds than the ones on Linux or Mac?

Yes, no (but these are not R issues).

There are bigger differences in the OS's equivalent of libm on Windows. 
  You did not tell us what CPUs your compilers targeted on Linux and OS 
X (sic), but generally they assume more than the i386 assumed on 32-bit 
Windows by Microsoft.  OTOH, all x86_64 OSes, including Windows, can 
assume more as all such CPUs have post-i686 features.  Remember Windows 
XP is still supported, and that was released in 2001.

Based on much wider experience than you give (e.g. reference results 
from R itself and recommended packages), deviations from x86_64 results 
are increasingly likely on OS X, i686 Linux and then i386 Windows.


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[Rd] randomForest: Numeric deviation between 32/64 Windows builds
Prof Brian Ripley