From i.costigan at me.com  Sun May 24 03:15:59 2015
From: i.costigan at me.com (Imanuel Costigan)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 11:15:59 +1000
Subject: [Rd] NEWS.md support on CRAN
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While a parsed HTML version of the NEWS.md file would be nice, I would like something much simpler: being able to "see? this file in the Help pane in RStudio or being about to run something like show_news(?packagename?). Duncan mentioned issues with the news() function being able to process metadata represented in the Md file. What is the motivation of this structure? 


> On 24 May 2015, at 10:51 am, Baptiste Auguie <baptiste.auguie at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> John MacFarlane, the author of Pandoc, has been working on a project (http://commonmark.org/) to define a standard reference for Markdown*. There are already two reference implementations, one in javascript, the other in C:  https://github.com/jgm/cmark
> 
> Regards,
> 
> baptiste
> 
> * There was some initial controversy with the original author of markdown, but in the long term it's probably one of the more reliable sources to follow.
> 
> On 24 May 2015 at 12:00, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23/05/2015 9:25 AM, G?bor Cs?rdi wrote:
> > On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Duncan Murdoch
> > <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com <mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >     I think the harder problem is display.  CRAN can run pandoc, but can
> >     users who install the package from source?  I would expect some obscure
> >     platforms (like Windows ;-) would not have it available.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > I don't think pandoc is the best way to go with NEWS.md (and README.md,
> > actually). I would be surprised if many package maintainer built their
> > NEWS/README files with pandoc. They just look at them at GitHub (or
> > another similar service).
> >
> > GitHub has API for building HTML from
> > MarkDown: https://developer.github.com/v3/markdown/
> > It can build GitHub-flavored MarkDown, in which case you get links to
> > GitHub issues, etc. or just plain MarkDown, like a GitHub README.
> >
> > If you don't want to rely on their service, then there are a multitude
> > of lightweight MarkDown parsers available,
> > e.g. https://github.com/markdown-it/markdown-it is a good one IMO.
> 
> I wouldn't want R builds to depend on GitHub, so this sounds more
> interesting.  I took a look at that website, and it looks problematic to
> me:  the parser appears to be written in Javascript, and the install
> instructions (using "npm" and "bower", whatever those are) depend on
> some unstated prerequisites.  In principle there's no reason not to
> allow R builds to depend on these things, but adding a dependency like
> that implies so much testing that I can't imagine anyone who could do it
> would want to.
> 
> It's likely that a suitable parser could be written in some combination
> of C and R -- Markdown is not a complicated language.
> 
> > Pandoc is great for vignettes, but you don't need its full power for
> > READMEs and especially not for NEWS files. In fact most NEWS.md files
> > look good as text.
> 
> But we do need something, and it needs to be essentially universally
> available, or small enough to include in the R sources.  I think R
> should eventually support Markdown as an acceptable language for
> documentation (including NEWS.md, and also help files for functions),
> but I think the effort required to do it now is too much.
> 
> Duncan Murdoch
> 
> >
> > Gabor
> >
> 
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[Rd] NEWS.md support on CRAN
Imanuel Costigan