From jfox at mcmaster.ca  Thu Nov  4 22:12:30 2004
From: jfox at mcmaster.ca (John Fox)
Date: Thu Nov  4 22:12:45 2004
Subject: problem with tcltk under Windows (was [Rd] RE: [R]
	onemore	Rcmdrproblem)
In-Reply-To: <418A309D.6020900@vu-wien.ac.at>
Message-ID: <20041104211229.NBPU29162.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@JohnDesktop8300>

Dear Thomas,

Brian Ripley has already mentioned that Windows/tcltk problems have been
fixed in R 2.0.1 beta. I'll provide some background.

In addition to the control-key problems with R 2.0.0, I and my students have
been experiencing a number of Windows instability problems running the Rcmdr
this fall. The version of R that my students have is 1.9.1 patched, and the
same version is installed in the university computer labs. I found that with
this version and R 2.0.0 (under Windows 2000 and XP), running the Rcmdr
under rterm.exe rather than under rgui.exe seems to provide much better
stability. This is a reasonable solution for me since my intro stats
students interact with R only through the Rcmdr GUI. 

I'm hopeful that tcltk will run more stably on Windows under R 2.0.1 with
the console provided by rgui.exe.

Regards,
 John

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John Fox
Department of Sociology
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
905-525-9140x23604
http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-devel-bounces@stat.math.ethz.ch 
> [mailto:r-devel-bounces@stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of Thomas Ruf
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:38 AM
> To: r-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: problem with tcltk under Windows (was [Rd] RE: [R] 
> onemore Rcmdrproblem)
> 
> Dear all,
> I'd like to use Rcmdr for teaching purposes but still have 
> problems trying to use it under Windows XP. Everything works 
> fine up to several minutes but then Rcmdr and R completely 
> crash the second I hit a button or key. This indeed looks 
> like a problem with tcltk. It is not any particular button or 
> key that causes the crash, but using Ctrl+C to copy something 
> to the clipboard seem the most 'reliable' cause. I tried this 
> on 4 different PCs all under Windows XP (home or prof.), SP1. 
> I did download and reinstall R 2.0.0, RCmdr and required 
> packages on Nov. 1, 2004, but that didn't help either. Are 
> there any new insights into these problems?
> 
> Best regards,
> Thomas
> 
> --
> Thomas Ruf
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> University of Veterinary Medicine
> Vienna, Austria
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problem with tcltk under Windows (was [Rd] RE: [R] onemore Rcmdrproblem)
John Fox