From edd at debian.org  Fri Sep 11 00:13:17 2009
From: edd at debian.org (Dirk Eddelbuettel)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:13:17 -0500
Subject: [Rd] Non-GPL packages for R
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On 10 September 2009 at 14:26, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
| The SystemRequirements: field of the DESCRIPTION file normally
| lists external dependencies whether free or non-free.

Moreover, the (aptly named) field 'License:' in DESCRIPTION is now much more
parseable and contains pertinent information. A number of more 'challenging'
packages basically pass the buck on with an entry

	    License: file LICENSE

which refers to a file in the sources one needs to read to decide.

This is e.g. at the basis of Charles' and my decision about what we think we
cannot build via cran2deb [1]: non-free, non-distributable, non-commercial or
otherwise nasty licenses.  There are a couple of packages we exclude for this
(or related reasons), and we have been meaning to summarise them with a
simple html summary from the database table we use for cran2deb, but have not
yet gotten around to it.

Just like John and Ravi, I would actually be in favour of somewhat stricter
enforcements.  If someone decides not to take part in the gift economy that
brought him or her R (and many other things, including at least 1880+ CRAN
packages with sane licenses) then we may as well decide not to waste our time
and resources on his project either and simply exclude it.  

So consider this as a qualified thumbs-up for John and Ravi's suggestion of a
clearer line in the sand.

Dirk

[1] cran2deb is at http://debian.cran.r-project.org and provides 1800+ Debian
'testing' binaries for amd64 and i386 that are continuously updated as new
packages appear on CRAN. With that 'apt-get install r-cran-foo' becomes a
reality for almost every value of foo out of the set of CRAN packages.


| 
| On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Prof. John C Nash <nashjc at uottawa.ca> wrote:
| > Subject: Non-GPL packages for R
| >
| > Packages that are not licensed in a way that permits re-distribution on
| > CRAN are frequently a source of comment and concern on R-help and other
| > lists. A good example of this problem is the Rdonlp2 package that has caused
| > a lot of annoyance for a number of optimization users in R. They are also an
| > issue for efforts like Dirk Eddelbuettel's cran2deb.
| >
| > There are, however, a number of circumstances where non-GPL equivalent
| > packages may be important to users. This can imply that users need to
| > both install an R package and one or more dependencies that must be
| > separately obtained and licensed. One such situation is where a new
| > program is still under development and the license is not clear, as in
| > the recent work we pursued with respect to Mike Powell's BOBYQA. We
| > wanted to verify if this were useful before we considered distribution,
| > and Powell had been offering copies of his code on request. Thus we
| > could experiment, but not redistribute. Recently Powell's approval to
| > redistribute has been obtained.
| >
| > We believe that it is important that non-redistributable codes be
| > excluded from CRAN, but that they could be available on a repository
| > such as r-forge. However, we would like to see a clearer indication of
| > the license status on r-forge. One possibility is an inclusion of a
| > statement and/or icon indicating such status e.g., green for GPL or
| > equivalent, amber for uncertain, red for restricted. Another may be a
| > division of directories, so that GPL-equivalent packages are kept
| > separate from uncertain or restricted licensed ones.
| >
| > We welcome comments and suggestions on both the concept and the
| > technicalities.
| >
| > John Nash & Ravi Varadhan
| >
| > ______________________________________________
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| >
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[Rd] Non-GPL packages for R
Dirk Eddelbuettel