From mwkimpel at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 05:42:39 2008
From: mwkimpel at gmail.com (Mark W Kimpel)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:42:39 -0500
Subject: [Rd] help with R rendering engine
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Paul and Michael,

Thanks for the information. Yes, it appears that what I want is to be 
able to present R with a convex polygon for the clipping path. As I 
waited for comments (for some reason Michael's email did not get to me), 
I began working on my own methods. I am essentially using a matrix in R 
to represent pixel-space and using my own edge-detection algorithm. As I 
write this, I believe I am almost there, but testing awaits tomorrow. 
The real question will be how fast it actually runs. I'll report back 
later this week.

Mark

Mark W. Kimpel MD  ** Neuroinformatics ** Dept. of Psychiatry
Indiana University School of Medicine

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Paul Murrell wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> Michael Lawrence wrote:
>> On Feb 7, 2008 4:49 PM, Mark W Kimpel <mwkimpel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm doing some work on a potential patch to the Bioconductor package
>>> Rgraphviz and have some questions on code that is contained in engine.c.
>>> In particular, I am developing some custom shapes using polygon and need
>>> to make sure that, with rendering, the line connecting the centers of
>>> two polygons stops at the border of each polygon. The polygons can be
>>> transparent, so the option of just rendering the lines first won't work.
>>>
>>> Is there some help for me with an R internal or perhaps a higher level
>>> function?
>>>
>> I have to admit I am not that familiar with R graphics, but a very common
>> way to achieve this in general is to use clipping. That is, you would set
>> the regions covered by your node polygons as the "clip" and then draw your
>> edges. Anything drawn onto the clip region is discarded. You would then
>> reset the clip and continue drawing.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that base R does not support the complex clip regions you
>> would require. However, it would be possible to do this in R by rendering to
> 
> 
> That's right.  R's graphics engine only copes with rectangular clipping
> regions.
> 
> OTOH, the 'grid' package does have a facility to determine locations on
> the edges of objects (see grobX() abnd grobY()).  This is not
> fully-featured, but for convex polygons it might give you what you want.
> There's an example or two in
> http://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~paul/Talks/rgraphs.pdf
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
>> pixmaps in memory and then compositing the pixmaps. The first part is
>> supported by the cairoDevice package and the latter part by RGtk2 (in
>> particular its binding to GDK). I'm sure you'd rather not introduce such a
>> dependency on Rgraphviz, but it's an option. I think the graphviz developers
>> are moving towards GTK+/Cairo in terms of plugins and other work.
>>
>> I checked libgd (already a dependency of graphviz) but found that it only
>> supports a single rectangle for clipping.
>>
>> Anyway, I hope this helps a little and good luck,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mark W. Kimpel MD  ** Neuroinformatics ** Dept. of Psychiatry
>>> Indiana University School of Medicine
>>>
>>> 15032 Hunter Court, Westfield, IN  46074
>>>
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[Rd] help with R rendering engine
Mark W Kimpel