From maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch  Tue Sep  9 15:48:10 2014
From: maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch (Martin Maechler)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:48:10 +0200
Subject: [Rd] r wiki
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>>>>> Philippe Grosjean <phgrosjean at sciviews.org>
>>>>>     on Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:45:14 +0200 writes:

    > Yihui and G?bor, I agree with you, and I also think that
    > using Travis CI would be very nice. However, there are
    > hundreds of page on the R wiki to migrate? and syntax is a
    > little bit different than Markdown.

    > Of course, a solution would be to start again from
    > scratch, but I think that those who have contributed to
    > the R Wiki deserve more respect. Any suggestion, or idea
    > about this?

(and we have seen more on this thread ..)

As one contributor to the former wiki and maintainer of the
good olde mailing lists, I completely agree (with
Yihui and G?bor and you) that it's best to move it over to an
infrastructure which takes care of authentication of legitimate
users and protection from thieves burglers, spammers, and the like.  

Markdown is definitely much better for R users (given knittr and
Rmd ..), and github is currently the place to host -- and once
it ceases to be that, markdown will be easier to migrate from.

Martin

    > Best,

    > Philippe On 08 Sep 2014, at 23:12, G?bor Cs?rdi
    > <csardi.gabor at gmail.com> wrote:

    >> I second this suggestion.
    >> 
    >> One possible complication I see is that if you would like
    >> to run the R code (to display its output for example),
    >> then AFAIK you cannot simply use Jekyll on Github's side,
    >> but would need some additional infrastructure.
    >> 
    >> It might be possible to use Travis (or some other) CI for
    >> it, and avoid installing additional software and/or
    >> servers, but anyway, this requires some care and effort.
    >> 
    >> If you don't want to run the code, then it is very easy,
    >> apart from the (one-time) migration cost.
    >> 
    >> Best, Gabor
    >> 
    >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Yihui Xie
    >> <xie at yihui.name> wrote:
    >>> I want to make a humble suggestion: migrate the wiki to
    >>> Github, and build the pages using Jekyll+Markdown. That
    >>> way, I think it will attract more volunteers. Simply
    >>> look how many pull requests that Hadley has got for his
    >>> up-coming book hosted on Github
    >>> (http://adv-r.had.co.nz):
    >>> https://github.com/hadley/adv-r/pulls I have had the
    >>> experience of maintaining web servers and different
    >>> wiki/CMS systems (including Dokuwiki -- I have even
    >>> written a PHP plugin for it), and eventually I found I
    >>> could not afford the time on the job of a system
    >>> admin. Now I never do that again, and I just focus on
    >>> maintaining the content. Let the professionals do the
    >>> hosting and compilation service, and my life has become
    >>> so much better (no more worries about security holes and
    >>> attacks).
    >>> 
    >>> Regards, Yihui
    >>> --
    >>> Yihui Xie <xieyihui at gmail.com> Web: http://yihui.name
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Philippe GROSJEAN
    >>> <Philippe.GROSJEAN at umons.ac.be> wrote:
    >>>> Uwe and all,
    >>>> 
    >>>> I have problems with the R wiki engine. It seems that
    >>>> there is a systematic attack of the R wiki site that
    >>>> produces an overconsumption of the server's CPU, and
    >>>> consequently, my provider did shutdown the whole
    >>>> SciViews.org web site.
    >>>> 
    >>>> Now, it is a bad time for me to work on this (very busy
    >>>> with exams + Master and PhD theses). I am currently
    >>>> looking for an expert in CMS to look at the problem. I
    >>>> don't know when I will be able to solve this and reopen
    >>>> the R Wiki.
    >>>> 
    >>>> Best,
    >>>> 
    >>>> Philippe
    >>>> ..............................................<?}))><........
    >>>> ) ) ) ) ) ( ( ( ( ( Prof. Philippe Grosjean ) ) ) ) ) (
    >>>> ( ( ( ( Numerical Ecology of Aquatic Systems ) ) ) ) )
    >>>> Mons University, Belgium ( ( ( ( (
    >>>> ..............................................................
    >>>> 
    >>>> On 06 Sep 2014, at 17:28, Uwe Ligges
    >>>> <ligges at statistik.tu-dortmund.de> wrote:
    >>>> 
    >>>>> Rather than asking here, I'd ask Philippe Grosjean
    >>>>> directly, hence CCIng.
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Best, Uwe Ligges
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> On 06.09.2014 01:17, Andr? Z. D. A. wrote:
>>>>> This does not answer you, but if you are looking for
    >>>>> something that existed on that wiki, it may help:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20140112055032/http://rwiki.sciviews.org/
>>>>> doku.php
>>>>> 
>>>>> And that wiki doesn't look like it had a lot of activity:
>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20140301000000*/http://rwiki.sciviews.org/
    >>> 
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