From romain at r-enthusiasts.com  Wed Nov 17 11:48:42 2010
From: romain at r-enthusiasts.com (Romain Francois)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:48:42 +0100
Subject: [Rd] R5 reference classes: how to initialize exactly?
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Le 17/11/10 11:39, Janko Thyson a ?crit :
>
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Simon Urbanek [mailto:simon.urbanek at r-project.org]
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. November 2010 11:35
>> An: Janko Thyson
>> Cc: 'r-devel at r-project. org'
>> Betreff: Re: [Rd] R5 reference classes: how to initialize exactly?
>>
>> Just a clarification for posterity - R5 has nothing to do with the new
>> reference classes. It's not even an official name, but informally it's a
>> collection of ideas for an entirely new object system that can replace
>> both S3 and S4 (not that it will but it should be seen as having the
>> capability to do so technically). Reference classes are just an addition
>> to S4.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>
> Thanks for that clarification. I picked that name up from the Google
> TechTalks presentation of Dirk and Romain. So I refer to them as S4
> reference classes in future posts?
>
> Regards,
> Janko

Sorry about that. It was meant as a sort of private joke. (we do say in 
the talk that this is not an official name).

>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:30 AM, Janko Thyson wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I was stupid:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MyRefObj<- setRefClass("Blabla", .)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One can always get the generator object of an defined class with
>>> 'getRefClass()'. So:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> g<- getRefClass("Blabla")
>>>
>>> x<- g$new(.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Janko
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Von: Janko Thyson [mailto:janko.thyson at ku-eichstaett.de]
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. November 2010 00:27
>>> An: 'r-devel at r-project. org'
>>> Betreff: R5 reference classes: how to initialize exactly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear List,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So far, I really like those new R5 classes. But what kind of puzzles
>> me is
>>> that it's not just enough to define the actual reference class, I also
>> have
>>> to assign it to an object (e.g. 'MyRefObj') in order to fire
>>> 'MyRefObj$new(.)'.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> S4:
>>>
>>> setClass("Blabla", .)
>>>
>>> x<- new("Blabla")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> R5:
>>>
>>> MyRefObj<- setRefClass("Blabla", .)
>>>
>>> x<- MyRefObj$new(.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But then how do I define a reference class in a package that should be
>>> available after the package is loaded via 'library(my_pkg)' as there
>> is no
>>> 'MyRefObj' at startup yet? Do I have to call the script where the
>> definition
>>> lives?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for any comments,
>>>
>>> Janko


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[Rd] R5 reference classes: how to initialize exactly?
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