From p.dalgaard at biostat.ku.dk  Mon Dec 12 14:11:00 2005
From: p.dalgaard at biostat.ku.dk (Peter Dalgaard)
Date: 12 Dec 2005 14:11:00 +0100
Subject: [Rd] [R] data.frame() size
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Hin-Tak Leung <hin-tak.leung at cimr.cam.ac.uk> writes:

> Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
> > Data frames have unique row names *by definition* (White Book p.57).
> 
> Yes - I happened to have the White Book on my desk (not mine...)
> - indeed, the first sentence on page 57 is (quote verbatim, the
> "never" is in italic in the book, which I have added the "*" before
> and after):
> 
>     If all else fails, the row names are just the row numbers. They
>     are *never* null and must be unique.
> 
> So patching data.frame.R is quite wrong. However, the rowname/colname
> overhead is definitely an issue for processing of large data sets,
> both for speed and amount of memory consumed. So it is probably best
> to extend the data.frame class and call it something else instead,
> for those who needs to go that route.


Exactly. I recall from the Insightful people at the DSC in Seattle
that something is going to happen with the rownames in S-PLUS or has
happened in the latest release, but I don't remember exactly how they
did it, and if and how it had to do with their "big dataframe" code.
We might want R to follow suit in this respect.

Other options might include doing something about the string-storage
of rownames, which is quite wasteful in R (every string is an R
object, a string vector is really a list of CHARSXP objects). Either
one could improve on the internal storage format, or one could allow
rownames to be integers with semantics like "virtual strings" so that
x["123",] still works.
 
> (What I am doing is already called a different name so it isn't
> affected by this argument).
> 
> Hin-Tak
> 
> 
> 

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[Rd] [R] data.frame() size
Peter Dalgaard