From apps.embedded at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 00:39:20 2014
From: apps.embedded at gmail.com (Apps Embedded)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 00:39:20 +0100
Subject: [Rd] R on the Cydia Store
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Hi,

Thanks for your first answers.

So, should we contact the R foundation team members to inform them of our
project on the Android platform and on the Cydia Store ?
If yes, could you give us their email please ? Or should we write to the
president of the R foundation for instance ?

Best regards.

Apps Embedded Team.


2014-12-09 23:49 GMT+01:00 Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz at me.com>:

>
> > On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 09/12/2014, 4:26 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Henrik Bengtsson <hb at biostat.ucsf.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 9, 2014 6:38 AM, "Apps Embedded" <apps.embedded at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> We have published an Android app called R Console on the Play Store
> since
> >>>> D?cember 2013.
> >>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appsopensource.R
> >>>>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appsopensource.Rpremium
> >>>>
> >>>> In the mean time, we have developped its equivalent app for the App
> Store.
> >>>> We released it on march 2014. We have been approved from this date by
> Apple
> >>>> to publish it world wide.
> >>>> Recently, we learnt that GPL app are not compatible with the App Store
> >>>> distribution licence.
> >>>
> >>> What I would like to write here, would fall under "this is certainly
> >>> not a topic for R devel", so I refrain.
> >>>
> >>> However, I can say that it's likely your problems wouldn't have
> stopped there;
> >>>
> >>> [R] R on the iPhone/iPad? Not so much....a GPL violation
> >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2010-June/240901.html
> >>>
> >>> /Henrik
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I might add that, given the intentions expressed below, in terms of
> doing this on a jailbroken iOS device via Cydia, the concerns raised in the
> Apple iOS SDK, that I referenced in the above linked post from 2010,
> essentially go away.
> >>
> >> They would still be germane, as may now be expressed in the current
> SDK, including the use of the new Swift language, if the OP's intent was to
> pursue this via official AppStore channels and am surprised that it was
> approved by Apple previously given the indicated content and functionality
> of the app.
> >>
> >> The primary intention of jailbreaking an iOS device is, of course, to
> circumvent Apple's restrictions on the software that can be installed by
> using third party distribution channels and in the tools that can be used
> to develop apps.
> >>
> >> That being said, the licensing issues, as Duncan raised in his reply,
> are still germane and permission from the R Foundation should be sought for
> any uses involving R Foundation copyrighted content. That would be relevant
> for both the iOS implementation and the Android implementation.
> >
> > Just to be clear:  everybody already has permission from the R copyright
> > holders to use R within the existing licenses.  There's no need to seek
> > extra permission for that.
> >
> > Trademarks are different...
> >
> > Duncan Murdoch
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification Duncan, I was imprecise in my language.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc
>
>
> >
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Marc Schwartz
> >>
> >> P.S. I echo's Duncan's comment, in that I am also a member of the R
> Foundation, but am not speaking here on it's behalf.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thus we decided to remove the iOS app from the App Store several days
> ago.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are thinking of publishing the same app published under Cydia with
> a
> >>>> freemium model.
> >>>> Its licence would be GPL v3.
> >>>>
> >>>> What we would like to do under Cydia with R Console is to have the
> >>>> following behavior :
> >>>> - free version will be able to run recommended packages and graphics
> are
> >>>> not enabled. A small ad banner is present on top of the app.
> >>>> - premium version will be the same as the free version except the ad
> banner
> >>>> will not be present anymore and 3 compilers will be integrated into
> the app
> >>>> in order to be able to compile and run most of the Cran packages from
> >>>> source.
> >>>> - graphics may be added in a second step.
> >>>>
> >>>> The app will be considered as a bundle of open-source tools. This
> bundle
> >>>> will be under the Gnu General Public Licence version 3. Each
> open-source
> >>>> tool which contributes to the overall bundle will stay in its original
> >>>> licence (R is GPL v2 for instance) but the bundle will be GPL v3.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From your point of view, do you see any legal issue with this
> project under
> >>>> Cydia for jailbroken iOS devices?
> >>>>> From a trademark point of view, is the name of the apps "R Console
> Free"
> >>>> and "R Console Premium" ok ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apps Embedded Team.
> >>
> >
>
>

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