From murdoch at stats.uwo.ca  Mon Apr  3 23:42:35 2006
From: murdoch at stats.uwo.ca (Duncan Murdoch)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:42:35 -0400
Subject: [Rd] Microsoft Monad Shell
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On 4/3/2006 3:27 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> Not sure if this has application for R but Microsoft's new Monad shell
> is now in public beta.  I have not looked at it myself but I wonder
> if the tools that are required to create Windows R packages
> could be replaced by this?

I'd say probably not.  The tools required to build R packages in Windows 
are generally GNU tools, or modifications of them.  They are designed to 
make Windows look Unix-like.  From what I can see, Monad is an attempt 
to re-invent the shell, not to be compatible with Unix.  The Windows 
build process is different from the Unix one, but it makes use of the 
same tools; replacing it with something completely different just 
doesn't seem worth the trouble.

Duncan Murdoch

> 
> ----
> 
> The Monad team has recently released Monad Beta 3.1 to Microsoft Download
> Center and we're working diligently towards a release of Monad 1.0! As
> adoption of Monad has increased substantially, we have been moving the
> Monad community presence away from Betaplace, an invitation-only site for
> our earliest beta testers, to public areas to allow anyone interested in
> Monad to download and discover Monad. I'm pleased to announce that as of
> today, Monad's private Betaplace resources have now been fully
> transitioned to publicly accessible areas.
> 
> But we haven't stopped there! An updated Monad User Guide and Developer
> documentation are now available in the new Monad Documentation pack, as
> well as a repository for Monad scripts thanks to our good friends over at
> Technet Script Center! The Monad Betaplace presence is scheduled for
> closure at the end of April. We will send a final e-mail when this closure
> occurs.
> 
> Whether you are a Monad novice or guru, the following Monad resources are
> sure to have something to pique your interest:
> 
> * Download the latest version of Monad and the Monad Documentation Pack at
> Download Center:
>             <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads> and search for "Monad"
>             (Be sure to uninstall any old versions of Monad before
>             installing Monad Beta 3.1)
> 
> * Share suggestions and submit bug reports at Connect:
> <http://connect.microsoft.com/availableprograms.aspx>
> 
> * Browse the Monad script repository and read up on Monad script tips at
> Technet Script Center:
> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/hubs/msh.mspx>
> 
> * Create MshCmdlets and MshProviders using the Monad Developer reference
> on MSDN:
> <http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> us/cpref12/html/N_System_Management_Automation.asp>
> 
> * Discuss Monad with Monad team members, Monad MVPs, and Monad enthusiasts
> in the scripting newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.server.scripting:
> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/dgbrowser/en-us/def
> ault.mspx?query=microsoft.public.windows.server.scripting&dg=&cat=en-us-te
> chnet-appcenter&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=328BAFD2-1A81-4558-B1DE-B6EB49F3
> 1B7E&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us>
> 
> * Get the latest scoop on Monad on the blogs by Monad MVPs and team
> members. Here's a list of some of the ones out there:
>             Monad Team Blog: <http://blogs.msdn.com/monad>
> 
>             Arul Kumaravel's Blog: <http://blogs.msdn.com/arulk>
>             Keith Hill's Blog: <http://spaces.msn.com/keithhill>
>             Lee Holmes' Blog: <http://www.leeholmes.com/blog>
>             Marc van Orsouw's Blog: <http://mow001.blogspot.com/>
>             Thomas Lee's Blog: <http://tfl09.blogspot.com/>
> 
> * Read all about Monad in the first published book on Monad. Published by
> O'Reilly, this book is available to view online as well as for purchase in
> stores.
>             <http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/msh>
> 
> As thanks for being a supporter of Monad during our early betas, we've
> worked with the folks at O'Reilly to get you 30% off the Monad book. Just
> use the code "D6MNAD" when placing an order at oreilly.com. The code
> expires June 30th.
> 
> Finally, we're always looking for ways to improve the Monad community and
> to better understand how Monad is being used around the world. If you're
> using Monad today and it's been helpful or you've done something with
> Monad that you think is super cool and worth sharing, we'd love to hear
> your story! The same goes for if you have any ideas for topics, areas, and
> events not covered here but you wish you had. To send us your stories and
> feedback, visit the Monad Connect website at
> <http://connect.microsoft.com/>.
> 
> If you haven't used the Monad Connect site before you'll need to do a
> quick registration if you haven't visited Connect before.
> 
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[Rd] Microsoft Monad Shell
Duncan Murdoch