From ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk  Tue Dec  7 08:41:16 2010
From: ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk (Prof Brian Ripley)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 07:41:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rd] 0.5 != integrate(dnorm,0,20000) = 0
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Spencer Graves wrote:

> Hello:
>
>
>      The example "integrate(dnorm,0,20000)" says it "fails on many systems". 
> I just got 0 from it, when I should have gotten either an error or something 
> close to 0.5.  I got this with R 2.12.0 under both Windows Vista_x64 and 
> Linux (Fedora 13);  see the results from Windows below.  I thought you might 
> want to know.

Well, isn't that exactly what the help page says happens?  That 
example is part of a section entitled

      ## integrate can fail if misused

and is part of the illustration of

      If the function is
      approximately constant (in particular, zero) over nearly all its
      range it is possible that the result and error estimate may be
      seriously wrong.



>
>
>      Thanks for all your work in creating and maintaining R.
>
>
>      Best Wishes,
>      Spencer Graves
> ###############################
>
> integrate(dnorm,0,20000) ## fails on many systems
> 0 with absolute error < 0
>> sessionInfo()
> R version 2.12.0 (2010-10-15)
> Platform: i386-pc-mingw32/i386 (32-bit)
>
> locale:
> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252
> [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United States.1252
> [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252
> [4] LC_NUMERIC=C
> [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
>
> attached base packages:
> [1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base
>
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[Rd] 0.5 != integrate(dnorm,0,20000) = 0
Prof Brian Ripley