From osoong+r at gmail.com  Fri Feb 25 01:30:38 2011
From: osoong+r at gmail.com (Oliver Soong)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:30:38 -0800
Subject: [Rd] system(wait = FALSE)
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The targets are identical.  In fact, I located the exact shortcut
listed as the start menu recent programs entry, and it's the same one
used in the all programs entry (there's some Windows magic going on
here that I don't necessarily understand).  Running that through
explorer or the all programs menu gives the weird behavior, and
running it through the recent programs list gives me the expected
behavior.

Oliver


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck
<ggrothendieck at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Oliver Soong <osoong+r at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't know about r-windows at r-project.org. ?Is that a public
>> mailing list like r-help? ?It's not listed under
>> http://www.r-project.org/mail.html.
>>
>> I was able to reproduce the issue under two other 32-bit Windows 7
>> machines, so it's not specific to the one computer. ?It could be
>> something common to my Windows user account configurations, although
>> those accounts are not all configured similarly. ?The part that's the
>> strangest to me is that things do work when R is started through the
>> start menu recent programs and when called from a command shell, but
>> not through shortcuts or the start menu all programs list. ?Sys.getenv
>> does not indicate any particular difference. ?Are there any other
>> things I might check in R?
>
> Right click the particular start menu recent program entry that starts
> it and choose properties; also right click the shortcut and choose
> properties and right click the start menu programs list entry and
> choose properties. ?See what the differences are in the targets.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> The actual command I want to run has quoting concerns (inherent to
>> Windows and cmd) that force me to use system. ?If you don't like cmd
>> /c dir, this command also serves the purpose and also shows the weird
>> behavior. ?It presumes that Rscript is on the path:
>> system("Rscript -e \"writeLines(letters,
>> \\\"C:\\\\\\\\tmp\\\\\\\\tmp.txt\\\")\"", wait = FALSE)
>>
>> I've been told (and can see) that shell just calls system, and since
>> the equivalent command in shell shows the same behavior due to this
>> weirdness I'm finding with system, I decided to focus on what appeared
>> to be the underlying problem (although perhaps not the actual problem
>> if it is just something with me).
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Prof Brian Ripley
>> <ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Oliver Soong wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm having a very odd problem with system(wait = FALSE). ?I'm not
>>>> entirely sure whether it's a bug in R or a problem on our end. ?It's
>>>> related to a post a month or so ago in R-help which got no responses,
>>>> but I have a little more to add.
>>>
>>> Well, the place you are asked to report issues on the Windows port is
>>> R-windows at r-project.org. ? But no one was able to reproduce this, and it
>>> does sound as if the problem is on your specific machine. ?If so, only you
>>> can debug it and find out if it is really in R.
>>>
>>>> This command works as expected (I use c:\tmp since c:\ isn't normally
>>>> writable under later versions of Windows).
>>>
>>> That's a bold claim (and untrue of my Windows 7 systems), but if c:\ is not
>>> writeable, you cannot create c:\tmp!
>>>
>>>> ?The file is created at
>>>> c:\tmp\tmp.txt.
>>>> system("cmd /c dir > c:\\tmp\\tmp.txt", wait = TRUE)
>>>> This command does not work as expected. ?There is no file created at
>>>> c:\tmp\tmp.txt.
>>>> system("cmd /c dir > c:\\tmp\\tmp.txt", wait = FALSE)
>>>
>>> Windows' own programs are peculiar things, and often do not obey Windows'
>>> own rules for everyone else. ?So I give little weight to such an example.
>>> ?And in any case, we recommend shell() for such usages.
>>>
>>>> The computer is a 64-bit Windows Server 2008R2 machine. ?This affects
>>>> R 2.12.1, both the 32-bit and 64-bit RGui executables but not the
>>>> RTerm executables. ?This does not affect 32-bit Windows XP, 32-bit
>>>> Windows Server 2003, or 64-bit Windows Server 2008. ?This does not
>>>> affect R 2.12.0, and if I'm reading the svn logs correctly, there were
>>>> some changes made to the system function from 2.12.0 to 2.12.1.
>>>> Things seem to work normally when R is started from the start menu
>>>> recent programs list, but things do not work properly when R is
>>>> started from a shortcut, from the start menu all programs menu, or
>>>> through explorer.
>>>>
>>>> I'm stumped. ?Any ideas I can try?
>>>>
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Oliver Soong
>> Donald Bren School of Environmental Science & Management
>> University of California, Santa Barbara
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Oliver Soong
Donald Bren School of Environmental Science & Management
University of California, Santa Barbara
Santa Barbara, CA 93106-5131
805-893-7044 (office)
610-291-9706 (cell)



[Rd] system(wait = FALSE)
Oliver Soong