From mdsumner at gmail.com  Tue Dec  7 10:09:36 2010
From: mdsumner at gmail.com (Michael Sumner)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:09:36 +1100
Subject: [Rd] Terminology clarification (Re: GPL and R Community
	Policies (Rcpp)
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Well, I'm very sorry for the outburst, it was completely inappropriate.

I don't actually mind the inconvenience - it's rather instructive as
to how badly things can go. I was lasshing out as it's really just
ironic that you want to stamp out references to yourself in a package
(how many on this list really knew the details before, or cared?) but
have now immortalized your contribution in the loudest way here on a
list where it's really not relevant.

Cheers, Mike.


On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Dominick Samperi <djsamperi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Michael Sumner <mdsumner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Christ, can we remove all references from the mailing lists while we're at
>> it?
>
> Look, I want to release software to CRAN, and I would like to
> do it without having to explain those remarks in Rcpp. I understand
> your frustration, but the authors of Rcpp have made it clear that
> private emails will be ignored. I think I have the right to decline
> the kind of "acknowledgement" that appears in Rcpp, and there
> is no rule that says it must be retained.
>
> This is a very simple resolution that would end this thread (to
> the delight of many readers I am sure).
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience,
> Dominick
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Dominick Samperi <djsamperi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Dirk,
>> >
>> > Please let me know whether or not you will comply with my request to
>> > remove
>> > references to my name in Rcpp (except copyright notices).
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dominick
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Dominick Samperi
>> > <djsamperi at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at debian.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2 December 2010 at 17:23, Dominick Samperi wrote:
>> >>> | OK, since you are so accomodating, then please remove all reference
>> >>> to
>> >>> | my name from Rcpp as I do not want to be subject to arbitrary
>> >>> revisions
>> >>> of
>> >>> | my status. I may not have the right to say how my prior work will be
>> >>> used,
>> >>> | but I think I have the right to ask that my name not be used in the
>> >>> way
>> >>> | it is used in the recent update.
>> >>>
>> >>> As I pointed out, you change your mind on this every 12 months,
>> >>> limiting
>> >>> my
>> >>> patience and willingness for these dances. ?It has also been suggested
>> >>> by
>> >>> other than attribution is clearer if you listed as the maintainer of
>> >>> the
>> >>> 2005/2006 code that we started from in 2008.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> The change that this thread is a reaction to happened a few days ago,
>> >> not
>> >> 12 months ago. If I wavered in the past it was because I was being
>> >> forced to compete with my own work, not a pleasant place to be.
>> >>
>> >> Are you telling me that you refuse to stop using my name
>> >> in Rcpp (except in copyright notices)?
>> >>
>> >> Are you telling me that you will continue to use my name and
>> >> update the associated status as you see fit, whether or not I
>> >> approve or consent to those changes?
>> >>
>> >> Please answer yes or no.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Dominick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > ? ? ? ?[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Sumner
>> Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies, University of Tasmania
>> Hobart, Australia
>> e-mail: mdsumner at gmail.com
>
>



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Michael Sumner
Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies, University of Tasmania
Hobart, Australia
e-mail: mdsumner at gmail.com



[Rd] Terminology clarification (Re: GPL and R Community Policies (Rcpp)
Michael Sumner