From nikko at hailmail.net  Fri Jan  9 23:41:00 2009
From: nikko at hailmail.net (Nicholas Lewin-Koh)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:41:00 -0800
Subject: [Rd] NY Times article
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Hi,
Kudos, nice exposure, but to make this more appropriate to R-devel I
would just
like to make a small comment about the point made by the SAS executive
about getting
on an airplane yada yada ...

1) It would seem to me that R has certification documents
2) anyone designing airplanes, analyzing clinical trials, etc. had 
   better be worried about a lot more than whether their software is
   proprietary.

So from that point of view it would seem that R has made great strides
over 
the last 5 years especially in establishing a role for open source
software solutions in regulated/ commercial
environments. The question now is how to meld the archiac notions of
validation and 
and verification seen in industry with the very different model of open
source
development? Rather than the correctness of the software, in which I
think R is competitive,
it is how to deal with the rapid release cycles of R, and the
contributed packages.
We pull our hair out in pharma trying to figure out how we would ever
reconcile CRAN and validation requirements. I have no brilliant
soulution,
just food for thought

Nicholas
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:02:55 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Prof Brian Ripley <ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk>
> Subject:Re: [Rd]  NY Times article
> To: Anand Patil <anand.prabhakar.patil at gmail.com>
> Cc: r-devel at r-project.org
> Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0901081258470.5529 at auk.stats.ox.ac.uk>
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> It has been all over R-help, in several threads.
> 
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2009-January/184119.html
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2009-January/184170.html
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2009-January/184209.html
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2009-January/184232.html
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2009-January/184237.html
> 
> and more
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Anand Patil wrote:
> 
> > Sorry if this is spam, but I couldn't see it having popped up on the list
> > yet.
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/business-computing/07program.html?emc=eta1
> >
> > Anand
> >
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[Rd] NY Times article
Nicholas Lewin-Koh