From macqueen1 at llnl.gov  Wed Apr 18 23:55:51 2012
From: macqueen1 at llnl.gov (MacQueen, Don)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:55:51 -0700
Subject: [Rd] I wish xlim=c(0,
 NA) would work. How about I send you a patch?
In-Reply-To: <4F8C6FD3.4060703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CBB48584.93876%macqueen1@llnl.gov>

Another potential problem with the xlim=c(5,NA) type of approach is
that if I am calculating the limits (as I often do) and have a bug
in my calculation, such that I get an NA for one of the limits,
then my plot would succeed rather than fail -- and succeed with
hard to predict results. This will make it harder for me to
discover my bug, I think.

Where this potential problem lies in a scale of "seriousness" relative
to other potential problems ... I have no idea.

-Don

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On 4/16/12 12:15 PM, "Duncan Murdoch" <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote:

>On 12-04-16 2:26 PM, William Dunlap wrote:
>> plot(1:10, xlim=c(10,1)) reverses the x axis.
>> If we allow plot(1:10, xlim=c(5,NA)), which
>> direction should it go?    Would this require new
>> parameters, {x,y}{min,max} or new paremeters
>> {x,y}{axisDirection}?
>
>I'd rather not add another parameter.  So if I were to implement this,
>I'd probably choose Paul's original suggestion.  If someone wants c(5,
>NA) to mean c(5, min(data)) rather than c(5, max(data)) they'd need to
>code it explicitly.
>
>Duncan Murdoch
>
>>
>> Bill Dunlap
>> Spotfire, TIBCO Software
>> wdunlap tibco.com
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: r-devel-bounces at r-project.org
>>>[mailto:r-devel-bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Duncan Murdoch
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:14 AM
>>> To: Paul Johnson
>>> Cc: R Devel List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rd] I wish xlim=c(0, NA) would work. How about I send
>>>you a patch?
>>>
>>> On 12-04-16 1:52 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for an R mentor.  I want to propose a change in management
>>>> of plot options xlim and ylim.
>>>
>>> Your suggestion sounds reasonable, but because plot limits are such a
>>> commonly used parameter, it would have to be done quite carefully.  The
>>> questions I'd ask before implementing it are:
>>>
>>>    - Are there other locations besides plot.default where xlim and ylim
>>> are specified?  I'd like to have them updated consistently.
>>>
>>>    - Are there any conflicting uses of NA for a limit in published
>>>packages?
>>>
>>>    - Which package authors would need to be told about this change, so
>>> they could make a compatible change?
>>>
>>>    - Where does it need to be documented?
>>>
>>> Duncan Murdoch
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you ever want to change one coordinate in xlim or ylim? It happens
>>>> to me all the time.
>>>>
>>>> x<- rnorm(100, m=5, s=1)
>>>> y<- rnorm(100, m=6, s=1)
>>>> plot(x,y)
>>>>
>>>> ## Oh, I want the "y axis" to show above x=0.
>>>>
>>>> plot(x,y, xlim=c(0, ))
>>>>
>>>> ##Output: Error in c(0, ) : argument 2 is empty
>>>>
>>>>    plot(x,y, xlim=c(0,NA ))
>>>> ## Output: Error in plot.window(...) : need finite 'xlim' values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wish that plot would let me supply just the min (or max) and then
>>>> calculate the other value where needed.
>>>> It is a little bit tedious for the user to do that for herself.  The
>>>> user must be knowledgeable enough to know where the maximum (MAX) is
>>>> supposed to be, and then supply xlim=c(0, MAX). I can't see any reason
>>>> for insisting users have that deeper understanding of how R calculates
>>>> ranges for plots.
>>>>
>>>> Suppose the user is allowed to supply NA to signal R should fill in
>>>>the blanks.
>>>>
>>>> plot(x,y, xlim=c(0, NA))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In plot.default now, I find this code to manage xlim
>>>>
>>>>      xlim<- if (is.null(xlim))
>>>>           range(xy$x[is.finite(xy$x)])
>>>>
>>>> And I would change it to be something like
>>>>      ##get default range
>>>>      nxlim<- range(xy$x[is.finite(xy$x)])
>>>>
>>>>      ## if xlim is NULL, so same as current
>>>>       xlim<- if (is.null(xlim)) nxlim
>>>> ## Otherwise, replace NAs in xlim with values from nxlim
>>>>       else xlim[ is.na(xlim) ]<- nxlim[ is.na(xlim) ]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who is the responsible party for plot.default.  How about it?
>>>>
>>>> Think of how much happier users would be!
>>>>
>>>> pj
>>>
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[Rd] I wish xlim=c(0, NA) would work. How about I send you a patch?
MacQueen, Don