From cstrato at aon.at  Sun Dec  7 11:48:11 2008
From: cstrato at aon.at (cstrato)
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:48:11 +0100
Subject: [Rd] Error in R CMD INSTALL on Windows XP using Rtools28
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I understand, thank you, Christian

Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> Any Windows batch script that uses the Windows find command.
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM, cstrato <cstrato at aon.at> wrote:
>   
>> Dear Gabor,
>>
>> Sorry, my mistake, here are my correct path settings:
>>
>> System Path:
>> C:\Rtools\bin;C:\Rtools\perl\bin;C:\Rtools\MinGW\bin;C:\Programme\MiKTeX
>> 2.7\miktex\bin;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem
>>
>> User PATH:
>> C:\Rtools\bin;C:\Rtools\perl\bin;C:\Rtools\MinGW\bin;C:\Programme\HTML Help
>> Workshop;C:\Programme\R\R-2.8.0\bin;C:\root\bin;
>>
>> I have just tested again that:
>> - R CMD check is ok and produces the vignettes
>> - I can compile my C++ source code with VC++ independently of R
>>
>> Thus at the moment there seem to be no conflicts, however, this could be the
>> case in the future.
>> Do you have any examples, where the Rtools find can cause conflicts with
>> Windows?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
>>     
>>> You could leave your path at:
>>>
>>>
>>> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;c:\Programme\Microsoft
>>> SQL Server\90\Tools\binn\
>>>
>>> and then use Rcmd.bat or rtools.bat to add the rest.
>>>
>>> Also there are still two problems:
>>>
>>> 1. one of the dangers of your setup is that
>>> Rtools has a conflict with Windows since it
>>> has its own find which takes over from Windows' find
>>> and can cause Windows batch files not related to R to fail.
>>> As a result its not a good idea to permanently set your
>>> path to include the rtools but better to do it session
>>> by session so that non-R sessions are unaffected.
>>>
>>> 2. Also you still don't seem to have MiKTeX on your path
>>> so I don't think its correct yet.  Rcmd.bat or rtools.bat
>>> would add the path to MiKTeX too (if you have it in a
>>> standard location).
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:41 AM, cstrato <cstrato at aon.at> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Dear Duncan, dear Gabor,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for this additional information and all these great tips.
>>>>
>>>> Setting the system path in the following way solved my problem:
>>>>
>>>> c:\Rtools\bin;c:\Rtools\perl\bin;c:\Rtools\MinGW\bin;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;c:\Programme\Microsoft
>>>> SQL Server\90\Tools\binn\
>>>>
>>>> Luckily this solves also the problem with potential conflicts between R
>>>> tools, Microsoft tools and ROOT, so that I do not have to rename any
>>>> tools
>>>> (which I would be reluctant to do).
>>>>
>>>> Since at the moment everything seems to work fine, and I am no Windows
>>>> expert (I do all my development on my Mac), I will keep the current
>>>> setting,
>>>> however, the next time I have to set up everything, I will try to take
>>>> advantage of Rcmd.bat since Gabor mentions that it will not override any
>>>> of
>>>> my settings.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the R installation documentation, I understand now that this
>>>> seems
>>>> to be a problem of my complicated setup and not a general problem, so
>>>> adding
>>>> this information may confuse other people.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch at stats.uwo.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> cstrato wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, cstrato wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Dear Duncan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for this explicit explanation, you are right:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When setting the system variable "Path" (as administrator) in
>>>>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>>>> to setting the user variable "PATH" (as user), now everything works
>>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interestingly, setting the system variable "Path" on my laptop with
>>>>>>>>> Rtools27 seems not to be necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> May I suggest that  this could be clarified in "R Installation and
>>>>>>>>> Administration" since there only the user variable "PATH" is
>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>> (as
>>>>>>>>> far as I see).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> In a shell there is only one PATH, so the manual is correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> I did not say that the manual is not correct, I only suggested to
>>>>>>> clarify
>>>>>>> the issue, since when running R CMD INSTALL from the Command Console I
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to set also the system variable "Path".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> I'd be reluctant to do this, for the same reason Brian was:  the
>>>>>> documentation is correct.  You need to set the PATH environment
>>>>>> variable
>>>>>> correctly, and that's what we say.  The fact that doing this is
>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>> and confusing on Windows is a problem with the Windows design and
>>>>>> documentation, not the R documentation, and Microsoft certainly has
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> resources than we do to address it.  What was their response when you
>>>>>> asked
>>>>>> them to improve their documentation?
>>>>>> Duncan Murdoch
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> The http://batchfiles.googlecode.com home page does give some tips for
>>>>> setting
>>>>> paths just in case.  Of course if you are using the batchfiles you
>>>>> won't have to set
>>>>> any paths in the first place.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>         
>>>
>>>       
>>     
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