From maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch  Tue May 17 10:57:28 2016
From: maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch (Martin Maechler)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 10:57:28 +0200
Subject: [Rd] please apply my patches
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>>>>>   <frederik at ofb.net>
>>>>>     on Mon, 16 May 2016 18:40:50 -0700 writes:

    > Dear R Devel, Sorry for sending so many emails, but I
    > haven't heard that anyone is working on the patches I
    > created.

    > A few weeks ago I wanted to do something to contribute to
    > R because I use it a lot. I picked the most annoying bugs
    > I could find, and created two of the simplest patches I
    > could create,

    > but all I've had in response from the R core
    > team (aside from briefly banning my Bugzilla account) is a
    > lengthy explanation for why power users don't use the
    > basic command line interface.

Well, I feel slightly irritated by this picture of what
happened, as the very first sentence I wrote started with
"Thank you" ... and I did mean it.
Also, I apologize if you+ only got critique from what I wrote.

    > I'm grateful to Peter for the list of tools like ESS that
    > people use to interface with R; but if I wanted to submit
    > a bug to ESS then I would have sent it to a different mailing list.

Sure (it was me, not Peter, who mentioned ESS etc).
If you reread what I said (or tried to say): I gave you a reason
why I (personally) was waiting/reluctant applying your patches:
I would not notice if I introduced a new bug, etc... and I also told
you that I thought that (almost) everybody else from the core team would
be in the same situation: all just reasons, Peter and I had hoped somebody
else would step up and confirm and apply the bug fixes.

Be assured that we will deal with this before the next release of R,
(R 3.3.1, which has not yet been scheduled). I'm sorry if this
was not clear from what we said, we did imply it.

We also have other obligations, not the least teaching,
students, and we have a life off screen-&-keyboard, so do have
tad more patience, please.

Best regards,
Martin



[Rd] please apply my patches
Martin Maechler