From ggrothendieck at gmail.com  Tue Mar 20 18:40:42 2007
From: ggrothendieck at gmail.com (Gabor Grothendieck)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:40:42 -0400
Subject: [Rd] wishlist -- Fix for major format.pval limitation (PR#9574)
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On 3/20/07, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch at stats.uwo.ca> wrote:
> On 3/20/2007 12:44 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> > On 3/20/07, murdoch at stats.uwo.ca <murdoch at stats.uwo.ca> wrote:
> >> On 3/20/2007 11:19 AM, charles.dupont at vanderbilt.edu wrote:
> >> > Full_Name: Charles Dupont
> >> > Version: 2.4.1
> >> > OS: linux 2.6.18
> >> > Submission from: (NULL) (160.129.129.136)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 'format.pval' has a major limitation in its implementation. For example
> >> > suppose a person had a vector like 'a' and the error being ?0.001.
> >> >
> >> >     > a <- c(0.1, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.3, 0.0001)
> >> >     > format.pval(a, eps=0.01)
> >> >
> >> > If that person wants to have the 'format.pval' output with 2 digits always
> >> > showing (like passing nsmall=2 to 'format'). That output would look like
> >> > this.
> >> >
> >> >     [1] "0.10"   "0.30"   "0.40"   "0.50"   "0.30"   "<0.01"
> >> >
> >> > That output is currently impossible because format.pval can only
> >> > produce output like this.
> >> >
> >> >     [1] "0.1"    "0.3"    "0.4"    "0.5"    "0.3"    "<0.01"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > a <- c(0.1, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.3, 0.0001)
> >> > format.pval(a, eps=0.01)
> >>
> >> But there's a very easy workaround:
> >>
> >> format.pval(c(0.12, a), eps=0.01)[-1]
> >>
> >> gives you what you want (because the 0.12 forces two decimal place
> >> display on all values, and then the [-1] removes it).
> >>
> >
> > Clever, but the problem would be that summary.lm, etc. call format.pval so the
> > user does not have a chance to do that.
>
> I don't see how this is relevant.  summary.lm doesn't let you pass a new
> eps value either.  Adding an "nsmall=2" argument to format.pval wouldn't
> help with the display in summary.lm.
>
> I suppose we could track down every use of format.pval in every function
> in every package and add nsmall and eps as arguments to each of them,
> but that's just ridiculous.  People should accept the fact that R
> doesn't produce publication quality text, it just provides you with ways
> to produce that yourself.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>

You are right in terms of my example which was not applicable but I
think in general that format.pval is used from within other routines rather than
directly by the user so the user may not have a chance to massage it
directly.



[Rd] wishlist -- Fix for major format.pval limitation (PR#9574)
Gabor Grothendieck