From simon.urbanek at r-project.org  Sat Mar 24 20:00:11 2012
From: simon.urbanek at r-project.org (Simon Urbanek)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:00:11 -0400
Subject: [Rd] Missing Windows binary for R-2.15RC?
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On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Uwe Ligges wrote:

> 
> 
> On 24.03.2012 19:31, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12-03-24 10:53 AM, Uwe Ligges wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 24.03.2012 06:58, Daniel Nordlund wrote:
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dan Tenenbaum [mailto:dtenenba at fhcrc.org]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 5:48 PM
>>>>>> To: Daniel Nordlund
>>>>>> Cc: r-devel at r-project.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rd] Missing Windows binary for R-2.15RC?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Nordlund
>>>>>> <djnordlund at frontier.com>    wrote:
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: r-devel-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-devel-bounces at r-
>>>>>> project.org]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dan Tenenbaum
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:21 PM
>>>>>>>> To: r-devel at r-project.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rd] Missing Windows binary for R-2.15RC?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The page
>>>>>>>> http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rtest.html
>>>>>>>> has a link to:
>>>>>>>> http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/R-2.15.0rc-win.exe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> However, clicking on that link gives a 404 "Object not found' error.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> FYI.
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I experienced the same error you did using the link you provided.
>>>>>>   However, if you use the CRAN mirror hosted by YOUR organization, you can
>>>>>> get the file. :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't think so:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://cran.fhcrc.org/bin/windows/base/R-2.15.0rc-win.exe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> gives me a 404 as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I didn't look closely enough at what you were asking for (RC versus beta).  R-2.15RC may not have been up-loaded yet.  However, I just downloaded it from the original link that was posted, so it appears to be available now.
>>>> 
>>>> It may have happened that the scripts generated the webpages before the
>>>> binary was built and checked (since "beta" became "rc" yesterday).
>>> 
>>> Yes, they need manual tweaking at the conversion, and I did it after the first upload.
>>> 
>>> If this happens again (which is pretty likely), you can manually download the previous version by editing the URL to put in "alpha" in place of "beta", or "beta" in place of "rc".
>>> 
>> 
>> ... or have a fixed name instead (on OS X we just use 2.15-branch which is unambiguous). For the record I find it extremely annoying that even the installation target name changes in the installer - I keep having to change it to R-2.15 all the time, because I don't see why you would want to have alpha/beta/rc/release of the same R version installed in separate directories by default  - but that may be just me ;). To a lesser degree the same applies to patch versions, but since those are released I could see an argument for that, even though in practice I think it is not useful either (because typically you just want to upgrade and not another copy).
> 
> I install it to the same location anyway, but I think it is also a good idea to indicate we have a progress in the prerelerase version and make it easy to distinguish release / prerelease versions for users.
> 

Well, the distinction should certainly be in the stuff displayed to the user at installation time (i.e. showing what they are about to install). Also we put the full current version on the page that they download from, but I don't think it needs to be part of the file name *and* the target location to be installed to. Aa I said, I care less about the former than the latter so it's OT but inspired by the original question ;).

Cheers,
Simon





> Adapting the script won't be too hard, because -  as reported to Duncan in a private message already - we also have R and Rtools installed and do not need to rely entirely on cmd.exe.
> 
> Uwe
> 
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> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>>> I'd like to have this handled automatically as it was in the past, but I don't know the Windows CMD script language well enough to do it.  If any experts want to volunteer to fix this (I think you need to create a batch script variable from the suffix in a filename), please write to me offline.
>>> 
>>> Duncan Murdoch
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[Rd] Missing Windows binary for R-2.15RC?
Simon Urbanek