From John.Maindonald at anu.edu.au  Tue Jul  3 16:23:26 2007
From: John.Maindonald at anu.edu.au (John Maindonald)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:23:26 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Rd] termplot - changes in defaults
Message-ID: <33272.91.84.18.241.1183472606.squirrel@sqmail.anu.edu.au>

While termplot is under discussion, here's another proposal. I'd like to
change the default for partial.resid to TRUE, and for smooth to
panel.smooth.  I'd be surprised if those changes were to break existing code.

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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Bill.Venables at csiro.au wrote:

> Precisely.  Thanks Brian.
>
> I did do something like this but not nearly so elegantly.
>
> I suggest this become the standard version in the next release.  I can't

Yes, that was the intention (to go into R-devel).
(It was also my intention to attach as plain text, but my Windows mailer
seems to have defeated that.)

> see that it can break any existing code.  It's a pity now we can't make
ylim = "common" the default.

I suspect we could if I allow a way to get the previous behaviour
(ylim="free", I think).

Brian

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk [mailto:ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk]
> Sent: Monday, 2 July 2007 7:55 PM
> To: Venables, Bill (CMIS, Cleveland)
> Cc: r-devel at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: Re: [Rd] termplot with uniform y-limits
>
> Is the attached the sort of thing you are looking for?
> It allows ylim to be specified, including as "common".
>
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Bill.Venables at csiro.au wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have, or has anyone ever considered making, a version of
'termplot' that allows the user to specify that all plots should have
the same y-limits?
>>
>> This seems a natural thing to ask for, as the plots share a y-scale.
> If
>> you don't have the same y-axes you can easily misread the comparative
contributions of the different components.
>>
>> Notes: the current version of termplot does not allow the user to
specify ylim.  I checked.
>>
>>           the plot tools that come with mgcv do this by default.  Thanks
>> Simon.
>>
>>
>> Bill Venables
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[Rd] termplot - changes in defaults
John Maindonald