From ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk  Tue May 27 18:55:29 2008
From: ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk (Prof Brian Ripley)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:55:29 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Rd] sort - Windows and Linux
In-Reply-To: <20080527182122.2acf7b31@mimi>
References: <20080527182122.2acf7b31@mimi>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805271743420.11709@gannet.stats.ox.ac.uk>

This sort of thing does depend on the locale, but here I get the same 
answer on Windows and Linux (the order you give).

So please give us much more complete information about what locales you 
used and what results you got.

?sort does say

      The sort order for character vectors will depend on the collating
      sequence of the locale in use: see 'Comparison'.

and ?Comparison says

      Collation of
      non-letters (spaces, punctuation signs, hyphens, fractions and so
      on) is even more problematic.

so you have been warned.

On Tue, 27 May 2008, Yohan Chalabi wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> While debugging a function I realized that
>
> sort(c(" 1", " 2", "10"))
>
> do not give the same result on Windows and Linux.
>
> This is actually not surprising because white spaces are not handle in
> the same manner on these two platforms. But I was wondering if this
> behavior is also desired in R.

Well, do you want R to behave in the same way as other tools on your 
platform, or the same way on all implementations?  One cannt have both. 
Currently R is using the OS's facilities, but the NEWS for R-devel says

     o   There is support for using ICU (International Components for
         Unicode) for collation, enabled by configure option --with-ICU
         on a Unix-alike and by a setting in MkRules on Windows.
         Function icuSetCollate() allows the collation rules (including
         the locale) to be tuned.  [Experimental]

so we have been exploring alternatives (not least because the C runtime of 
Mac OS X cannot sort well in UTF-8 locales).

> regards,
> Yohan Chalabi
>
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[Rd] sort - Windows and Linux
Prof Brian Ripley