From tkeitt at utexas.edu  Wed Mar 29 20:36:16 2017
From: tkeitt at utexas.edu (Tim Keitt)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 13:36:16 -0500
Subject: [Rd] Transferring ownership of R-managed buffer
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Herv? Pag?s <hpages at fredhutch.org> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> On 03/29/2017 08:24 AM, Tim Keitt wrote:
>
>> I have a use case where I would like to create an SEXP around an existing
>> buffer that is managed by R, thus avoiding a copy operation.
>>
>
> What to you mean exactly by "an existing buffer managed by R"?
>

Not allocated from the general heap, but rather allocated using R's
allocator and therefore returnable (hypothesis!) to the R interpreter as a
vector (not external pointer) without a copy operation.


>
> If I have
>> something like:
>>
>> void *p = (void*) RAW(PROTECT(Rf_allocVector(RAWSXP, n)));
>> ... additional maniupulation ...
>> SEXP x = somefunc(SXPTYPE, n, p);  // ????
>>
>> Is there a "placement" constructor available?
>>
>
> What's a "placement" constructor?
>

Function that constructs an object using previously allocated memory (for
example provided by a 3rd party library). In some cases, responsibility for
further management of the buffer is transferred to the new object.


>
> (I have arranged for the
>> corresponding UNPROTECT.) I've looked at and experimented with R_allocator
>> and allocVector3, but can't quite get it right. I know this is odd, but it
>> makes sense for my use case.
>>
>
> Not sure I follow what you are trying to do. Note that an SEXP is a
> pointer to a C struct called SEXPREC. I think that trying to point an
> SEXPREC struct to data pointed to by an existing SEXPREC struct is very
> likely to lead to a disaster.
>

Possibly (although that is not what I am proposing). I'm still trying to
grok where the state resides (all in the SEXPREC or between that and the
allocator).


>
> Note that if the existing buffer managed by R is an SEXP (e.g. b) and
> your code has access to this SEXP then you don't need to create another
> SEXP around its data. Since SEXPs are pointers doing
>
>   SEXP x = b;
>
> is fine and doesn't generate any copy.
>

The buffer in this case might be resized and reallocated and the original
SEXP will have gone out of scope.


>
> And if your code only has access to a "naked" pointer to the buffer
> managed by R (e.g. to RAW(b) is the buffer is actually in an SEXP)
> then why would you need to wrap it inside an SEXP?
>

I'm working with 3rd party structures that can work with a pointer and
buffer length, but cannot track the original SEXP. I just need to construct
an SEXP (SEXPREC) and point it at the buffer, set the vector length and
data type. I was checking to see if there is an API for that (and that wont
interfere with Rcpp declarations as it pulls in parts of Rinternals.h, but
as far as I can tell, not the parts that I need to work with SEXPRECs at a
low-level).

THK


> H.
>
>
>> Thanks for any pointers.
>>
>> THK
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[Rd] Transferring ownership of R-managed buffer
Tim Keitt