From ggrothendieck at gmail.com  Sat Mar 27 19:45:26 2010
From: ggrothendieck at gmail.com (Gabor Grothendieck)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:45:26 -0400
Subject: [Rd] Using SVN + SSH on windows
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I wasn't commenting of the overall worth of the system or the efforts
of those involved in it but your experience is with Linux rather than
Windows and I don't think you understand the problems that Windows
users have with this.

The poster may have believed its uniquely his problem but in fact
others have had very similar problems in dealing with this. What is
the purpose of this list if its not to share experiences to help one
another?  I think the useful suggestions I made could potentially save
someone literally days of frustration and my other suggestions could
possibly overcome these problems in part making the system more useful
so I don't agree that this is mere complaining.

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at debian.org> wrote:
>
> On 27 March 2010 at 13:50, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> | The worst part is the 20 minute delay which means that if here is
> | something wrong and you don't know what it is and need to try various
> | things via trial and error each try takes 20 minutes so its not
> | surprising that it can be extremely time consuming to set up. ?I did
> | set it up a long time ago so perhaps the situation is better now but
> | my experience at the time was more like Christophe's. ?If the 20
> | minute turnaround cannot be solved then I think the best solution for
> | Windows users would be excellent step by step documentation on how to
> | mirror your repository onto R-Forge from googlecode and elsewhere so
> | that Windows users can do their commits on googlecode (assuming that
> | mirroring your repository is possible and is easier than the commit
> | procedure and does not involve the 20 minute delay).
>
> I think you are being rather unfair here. ?These are contributed service
> being provided by folks in their extra time that they could be spending for
> their own work or research instead. The general rule still is: stop
> complaining, and volunteer to provide something that is better (or at least
> write the aforementioned step-by-step tutorial). ?Otherwise you are just
> making noise with no signal whatsoever.
>
> R-Forge is a rocksolid service for hundreds of us, and (at least the folks I
> work with) are very appreciative of the service. ?So a big Thank You from my
> end.
>
> Dirk
>
> | 2010/3/27 Uwe Ligges <ligges at statistik.tu-dortmund.de>:
> | > It is really not hard to set it up. I am using a vanilla ssh (rather than
> | > putty) and that works fine all the time...
> | >
> | > Uwe Ligges
> | >
> | >
> | > On 27.03.2010 18:31, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> | >>
> | >> s getting commits to R-Forge to work from
> | >> Windows. ?The entire system is really geared to UNIX. ?It took me a
> | >> couple of days of trial and error (since you have to wait 20 minutes
> | >> for each try) before I got it working. ?Although I did get it to work,
> | >> I ultimately decided to host all my packages on googlecode.
> | >> googlecode is extremely easy to use from Windows and does not require
> | >> any public/private key, pageant, etc. ?e.g.
> | >> http://sqldf.googlecode.com. ?If you already have TortoiseSVN and know
> | >> how to use it then you can probably set up a googlecode site in
> | >> literally 5 minutes.
> | >>
> | >> One other possibility. ?I think there is a way to host your project on
> | >> googlecode but still have it mirrored on R-forge so from your users'
> | >> viewpoint its the same as if it were on R-Forge but you can use the
> | >> simpler googlecode site. ?In that case you might not need to set up
> | >> commits on R-Forge since you would do all your commits through
> | >> googlecode (depending on how it works) but I have not seen good
> | >> documentation on how to do this.
> | >>
> | >
> |
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[Rd] Using SVN + SSH on windows
Gabor Grothendieck