From rjvbertin@hotmail.com  Tue Oct 22 18:48:00 2002
From: rjvbertin@hotmail.com (RenE J.V. Bertin)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:48:00 +0200
Subject: negative numbers in R plots in Illustrator 8 (and higher?) (PR#2199)
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On 22 Oct 2002 18:46:13 +0200, Peter Dalgaard BSA <p.dalgaard@biostat.ku.dk> wrote regarding "Re:
negative numbers in R plots in Illustrator 8 (and higher?) (PR#2199)"


8-) > Is there any interest in that I retype it and send it here?
8-) 
8-) First tell us your analysis... There is some weirdness with
8-) hyphen-vs-minus in the ISOLatin1Encoding, which I at some point got

	Indeed, it is that. Illustrator expects a hyphen at position 45, and not the minus that indeed appears to be the standard. ISO 1252 Latin 1 encoding does put the hyphen at that position.
There is not much difference between the hyphen and the minus glyphs; the former is slightly narrower than the latter. And it seems to be the hyphen that is generated by most keyboards.


8-) it might seem. However, if Adobe themselves are getting it wrong, we
8-) might reconsider our position.

	Well, there *is* some sort of issue with them. If the encoding calls for a minus, they should show it, and not silently ignore it! Or give a warning if the requested font doesn't have it.

Considering your position: just how easy is it to forget or overlook (the absence of) a sign? :)

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negative numbers in R plots in Illustrator 8 (and higher?) (PR#2199)
RenE J.V. Bertin