From phgrosjean at sciviews.org  Sun Oct  9 17:58:26 2005
From: phgrosjean at sciviews.org (Philippe Grosjean)
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:58:26 +0200
Subject: [Rd] Project suggestion: Interface between R and graphic devices
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Knut Krueger wrote:
> 
> Prof Brian Ripley schrieb:
> 
> 
>>I think you do not mean `graphics devices' as used by R (pdf, 
>>postscript, X11, windows, quartz etc). 
> 
> 
> Sorry no I do not mean such "devices"
> I thought about the Graphic User Interfaces, to use the R-System with a
> windows like surface http://www.sciviews.org/.
> I see the difficulties for the user which want to change from SPSS or
> Statistica or ? to R just inside my family.
> I am using R to reproduce the SPSS results (just for fun because I want
> my to learn R) my wife is using SPSS for her research program.
> But it takes a long time for scientist to learn the command line syntax.
> There is not time for this if the scientist is just inside a any
> research ... and the scientist is mostly inside any research.
> 
> for example http://www.sciviews.org/. was broken since the new version
> 2.?? (I think so). But if there would be a defined interface between the
> GUIs and R the developer of this interface must only change one
> interface instead all developer of the  GUIs must change their GUIs
> If i remember then I it was a great improvement of Linux in the past
> after there was a GUI available which was like windows. This was a great
> step for the acceptance of LINUX. I think this would be the same for R.
> but there must be a stable interface for GUI programmers available before.
> Hope this could clarify my suggestion :-)
> 
> Regards Knut

This is not true. Version 0.8-8 of SciViews-R 
(http://www.sciviews.org/SciViews-R) is compatible with R 2.1.1. There 
were several months of delay between R 2.1.X and the compatible 
SciViews-R version... There were a lot of changes required in my code, 
because of the internationalization of R. I though translating R in 
French was a priority, so, I have been working on "R French" first. 
Also, I took a little time with my baby that was born in April... life 
is not limited to programming R!

Remember that Open Source is a collaborative and voluntary approach of 
developing software. If you want to use all the time the latest R 
version, just learn to use its standard command line interface. If you 
prefer SciViews, JGR, R Commander, etc., then you should expect some 
delay before R releases and compatible GUI releases. Indeed, one must 
say that R Commander has always been released on time with the latest R 
version, as fart as I know, and JGR is very close to. Latest SciViews 
version was very, very late. I apologize for that.

Best regards,

Philippe Grosjean


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[Rd] Project suggestion: Interface between R and graphic devices
Philippe Grosjean