Can I make this my primary pump and the electric my backup (by setting the floats)? I pay nothing extra for under 15,000 gallons use per month. But I read the unit makes a loud noise when it shuts off when the vacuum breaks? I'll have to see how loud that is. Can I make this my primary pump and the electric my backup (by setting the floats)? I pay nothing extra for under 15,000 gallons use per month. But I read the unit makes a loud noise when it shuts... » Read More Can I make this my primary pump and the electric my backup (by setting the floats)? I pay nothing extra for under 15,000 gallons use per month. But I read the unit makes a loud noise when it shuts off when the vacuum breaks? I'll have to see how loud that is. « Show Less
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It depends. You could use it but it does leak a bit after each run so there could be a moisture prob if it runs a lot. How often does their current pump run? If there current pump rarely runs it would be okay. If it runs a lot I wouldn't do it due to the noise and moisture
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The pump does not pump near the volume that the electric does. If you were to have a lot of water coming in it would not keep up. I test mine once a month and it makes very little noise when it shuts off. I do not think it is made for constant use, only as a backup.
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Most local authorities do not allow a water powered pump as a primary pump, only as a secondary, or emergency backup pump. I suppose they look at the water usage as an issue. As to whether it would function as a primary, that depends on the amount of water you get in the sump and the water supply to the pump.
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Yes, I believe you can. When I had it installed, my tenant mentioned that it ran all the time for about a month. Turns out, he and the plumber had left the main pump unplugged from when it was installed. The base pump saved my basement. One downside however, the vacuum breaker does have a bit of a drip when activated. Just a few drops but if it runs a lot, that adds up to a lot of water. If you account for that in the pumping, you should be good. Not sure about wear duty.
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Mine makes a little sound but I would say less than the regular sump pump does. As long as your not paying for the water you should be fine. The pump itself is pretty powerful and handles things no problem for me. My sump runs a lot and so the backup is a must. I've never see them used as the primary but I don't see why it wouldn't work?
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The kit I received included a funnel/tube to catch the drips from the vacuum breaker (regarding the drips Chuck Daniel refers). Your outdoor hose may already contain a vacuum breaker, so you could sound check those. My pump is installed solely as a backup for power outages. The install instructions mention that this unit is to be used as a backup, but does not mention why. Possibly legal coverage in case of a failure?
22801
From my experience this would work but the noise that it makes would not make it a good option if your pump runs regularly.
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I assume you got the unit with the Permate pump? If so then it's not your imagination. I can actually hear mine upstairs! However it only lasts for a while until the tank is filled again. And somewhere in the instructions it says that you can cover the pump with insulating material since it's not an electrically powered device. That should help with the noise . . . hopefully.
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Please look under: "Product Description". It states: 97GPM. I have this pump for several months and it is great. I have a pool of ~12,000G. I run the pump 4 times per day 1hr and 15 min per run. Did not notice any change on my electric bill. The water is clear (I Ozonate the pool when pump runs) and I use one 3" chlorine tablet per week.
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I really cannot answer the question, we have had the coldest couple months here in years, My primary heat is all electric heat pump, so I was expecting a huge bill adding the heater also, I ran it quite a few days without turning it off, my bill was lower than I expected it to be, and it is a warmer heat than the heat pump
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I usually make 6 or 7 pumps and stop when I hear a quiet "click". When I remove the stopper the next time, the vacuum seal pops.My pump is new and I do not have any knowledge of how long it works well.
366263
This model has plenty of power. I replaced an old 1 hp single speed with this model. The savings has been amazing. I let the pump run 24/7 at 600 rpm. It cycles my 12500 gallon pool 1.25 times a day and cost me only $15 a month. I am saving about $900 dollars a year with this pump. It will easily pay for itself within a year. Not sure what state, county or city you are in but check with all 3. My electric company was offering a $100 rebate for installing a variable speed pump that was on the list. This model qualified.
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I think it run about $10 a day if you got it cranked wide open. The up side is, I and bring temp up between 8 to 10 degrees in a day. It's a 33,000 pool(20'+40') . I you were just trying to maintain a temp a $1 or 2 at best. It the best way to go. The heater is very good, it lets you know the in-coming water and the out going water temps. I would recommend putting a valve in on the in let side to chock the water down. I got that tip from the factory. Gary
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I'd strongly suggest a higher capacity pump if you're using a vacuum chamber. I'm using this pump (1.5cfm) on a 1 cu ft chamber, and it takes six minutes of pumping to get down to a useful degassing vacuum. It's a problem when the liquid in the chamber has only a 20 min pot life. A 5cfm unit isn't that much more expensive.
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I live in Palm Springs Ca, and replaced my 1.5 hp pump with a sp2300vsp and am very happy with it. Runs my pool vac even on a lower rpm ( 1700) saves money on my electric bill also
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Carl G I would like to know why you needed an oil lubricated pump? Changing to wet rotor may be an issue because of the clearances...if it stops it might only a small particle...I once had some system "goo" hat stopped one...it took washing it out with diesel to get it back running. Both engineering submitals indicate the NRF22 is about 2GPM less than the LR20BF at 10ft head...so here's the thing...depending on what system youre installing it on...most systems were designed for 160f DHW or 180f HWH water so by putting this in (I dont know your system but I would do it) you'll have a slighting lower flow rate...in DHW who cares as its no big deal...BUT in a HWH system your control valves will open more and this is a seriously good thing in modulating valves. There will be a larger delta T so I'd also lower my boiler temperature by at least 20f assuming youve some form of condensing boiler...this will help ensure youre in condensing mode. Circulate fluid...not temperature and you'll save a lot of money. Make sure your side stream filter is clean and check it a few times in the first 1-2 months because the more flow means the more crud is likely to get back to your HEX...if there isnt one put a Y strainer in and add a "sock" on the screen for a month or 2). A possible problem is how many zones open/ resistance decreases across too many different circuits/ zones...too many and there wont be enough. The system I installed this on it is actually the primary circulator through a 2xwall HEX serving the HWH off the DHW system...it works so well Ive been promoting it/ its been installed on 3 systems in this last year (its not my J.O.B but I do design energy and conservation projects as is my profession). Last, make sure the expansion tank is on the pump inlet side/ the return (DHWR or HWHR)...these high speed pumps cannot handle even a minimal bit of cavitation. All the best
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You can by a similar pump different brand, that has a automatic shutoff. Same exact type of pump for a few dollars more. They also sell it on amazon. It is the Tetra pump, purple in color.
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request a new inspector, he dont know what he is talking about!!! i have this unit in a 3 bed room house with 2 adults living here showering everyday, washing machine, dish washer, 2 full bathrooms and 2 grandchildren here 5 days a week.as long as you have 2 gallon a minute shower heads everything will be just fine. i have had this installed for 5 months now with great electric use savings and NO complaints about the hot water production at all, the unit works very well for us here in breckinridge county kentucky 40152 i have, like the directions say 1/2 inch pipe. 3 foot on each side of the unit. and my water flow is 5-6 gallons a minute request a new inspector, he dont know what he is talking about!!! i have this unit in a 3 bed room house with 2 adults living here showering everyday, washing machine, dish washer, 2 full bathrooms and 2 grandchildren here 5 days a week.as long as you have 2 gallon a minute shower heads everything will be just fine. i have had this installed for 5 months now with great electric use savings and NO complaints about the hot water production at all, the unit works very well for us here in breckinridge county kentucky 40152 i have, like the directions say 1/2 inch pipe. 3 foot on each side of... » Read More request a new inspector, he dont know what he is talking about!!! i have this unit in a 3 bed room house with 2 adults living here showering everyday, washing machine, dish washer, 2 full bathrooms and 2 grandchildren here 5 days a week.as long as you have 2 gallon a minute shower heads everything will be just fine. i have had this installed for 5 months now with great electric use savings and NO complaints about the hot water production at all, the unit works very well for us here in breckinridge county kentucky 40152 i have, like the directions say 1/2 inch pipe. 3 foot on each side of the unit. and my water flow is 5-6 gallons a minute « Show Less
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I personally didn't notice my electric being any more expensive, but everyone's usage is different. If you run it quite a bit I would expect to see maybe a few dollars extra a month. This is a great heater I would highly recommend it.
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It is not a electric pump. It is gravity fed so unless you have it higher than what you are filling it is basically useless. I am trying to figure out how to put an electric pump in it so I can fill my boat. Otherwise, it was a waste of money. It is no more than a big expensive gas can. Does not do what it says it will.
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Previously, I had a Hayward single speed pump (3000 rpm). Now, with my Hayward SP2300 VSP, my energy consumption is reduced by approx. 55 to 75% (running at 2200 to 1500 rpm). This means that my new pump will pay for itself within approximately 12 months of continuous usage! If you plan to use your pool in the next few years, it is worth it to replace it now. You may want to calculate the energy savings using your local electricity rate to see how long it takes for the pump to pay for itself. When you do this calculation, you will wonder why you didn't replace the pump sooner!
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I only used it for two weeks before Fall shutdown, but Hayward Tech claims up to 60-70 percent savings on electric usage. I figured it would be worth the additional cost. It is very quiet at 1500 RPM.
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I can't tell you how much power the unit draws but I found that it increased my electric bill about $15 per month while it was running and there is a drain hose so you don't have to use the tray. The drain hose is short but you could hook up your own hose to extend it.