Is it really worth the extra work and money for this one vs. the VI110 model? How important is the warm water?
189711
I actually had one without the warm water and took it off and installed one with the warm water. The warm water is extremely important to me because of the fact that it cleans you so much better, quicker, and really makes you feel more fresh. Not to mention the fact it is so much more comfortable.
189712
cold water in the winter time is numbing and very uncomfortible and does not clean very well. i highly recommend a dual temperature bidet, you will not regret it.
189713
Warm water is important for me for 2 reasons. One- I live in NJ and I can use warm water in winter Two - my mom and other older guest love warm water for regular use regardless of season.
189714
I have never used the VI one so I cannot compare. The hot water one is good because you only use a little hot water to make it comfortable.You do not want it hot nor do you want it very cold. I've experienced the cold and do not like it. I always run the"clean" first until the hot water is through the pipes and into the bidet unit.
189715
There is a doorway between my sink's hot water line and my toilet, so my choice was cold water or not at all. Based on the reviews of people who got a cold-only model and said they were pleased with it, I bought one too. I installed it in January and didn't mind the cold water like I thought I might. If I get one for the other bath, I'll probably get a cold-only model again although that toilet is right next to the sink in that bathroom and would be easy to connect. Also bear in mind that if your water heater is some distance away, you'll have to let the water run several seconds before any that's hot reaches the bathroom anyway. There is a doorway between my sink's hot water line and my toilet, so my choice was cold water or not at all. Based on the reviews of people who got a cold-only model and said they were pleased with it, I bought one too. I installed it in January and didn't mind the cold water like I thought I might. If I get one for the other bath, I'll probably get a cold-only model again although that toilet is right next to the sink in that bathroom and would be easy to connect. Also bear in mind that if your water heater is some distance away, you'll have to let the water run several seconds before any... » Read More There is a doorway between my sink's hot water line and my toilet, so my choice was cold water or not at all. Based on the reviews of people who got a cold-only model and said they were pleased with it, I bought one too. I installed it in January and didn't mind the cold water like I thought I might. If I get one for the other bath, I'll probably get a cold-only model again although that toilet is right next to the sink in that bathroom and would be easy to connect. Also bear in mind that if your water heater is some distance away, you'll have to let the water run several seconds before any that's hot reaches the bathroom anyway. « Show Less
189716
Sorry for the delays answering ur question. I have both & both models are great. Having dual system warm & cold water is great in winter :-)
189717
I admit I thought the people who complained about the cold water was just being dramatic. I live in the midwest and I had to install mine with just the cold water until we could get a different size water line for the hot water. The cold water is really cold!! I didn't like it at all. Just adding a little bit of hot water makes all the difference in the world. I would highly recommend going for the warm water one.
189718
I find the warm water gives me more of a clean feeling. I own both models and the cold only option works just fine but the warm water is just a nicer feature. Although it was kind of annoying drilling a hole in the side of my vanity in order to hook up the warm water supply. So in the end, it's just a matter of preference.
189719
I bought the VI 110 model and installed in the master bathroom, works well and we enjoy it so today I decided to purchase the Neo 320 for another bathroom that has a sink right next to it for warm water hook up. The nozzle cleaning feature should be nice as well as the extra female nozzle. We live in CA so the water temp was not an issue but we're looking fwd. to the warm water from the Neo.
2090811
I have 2 but they are in a commercial installation and that affects the warranty. If you go to the Rinnai website the warranty details are there. Excellent units. The expense is in the install as they have to be within 9 feet of the meter and if you are replacing a tank type unit some plumbing will need to be done. Once that is done if you ever need to replace one down the road there are 3 unions and 4 screws involved in the replacement. Depending on the minerals in your water they do need to be de-limed occasionally. If you watch a plumber do it once you can go online and order the kit, about $150 which is less then a plumber will charge each time, and do it yourself in the future. It tells you when it need to be de-limed. Overall an excellent investment which should save you money over a tank type heater and supply unlimited hot water. There is a switch inside that allows you to increase the temp of the water from 120 to 140 degrees or anywhere inbetween if you want really hot water.
1234002
True. We didn't end up using it because of that. We may use it at some point, but right now we are going with another option, which is our regular plastic waterer. We thought the heating device would melt it but it doesn't get that hot and works perfectly, at least so far.
1077006
Absolutely with the 24 Plus. I have never been without plenty of hot water. Use the water saving heads and you most likely could take 4 showers at once. I can't say enough about this unit.Tim -
874281
I have mine hooked up to a sink so I have both hot and cold water. What I can say is that I have filled a large utility sink and had plenty of hot water to do so. In my opinion, the 5L would be plenty for nightly showers.
518303
Sorry for the late response on this! Yes, definitely it works great. I have a 3 bath house that has pressure set to about 80psi, and two showers can run at the same time, but it's about the same as when we had a tank (i.e. if it's winter you have two unhappy showerers.) But overall I'm stoked with the performance and propane savings over our old tank, which I will admit was pretty old (10+ years.) We'd never serviced the tank and I'm sure it was getting pretty well filled up with hard water deposit. I installed it myself, and going in cold with just a few youtube DIY videos under my belt I was able to patch in a few feet of black pipe and connect the unit with flex line, and also cut the ceiling and roof for the exhaust (about 7 feet of vertical run.) Hot water response is a few seconds slower than with the tank, so in our back master bath it takes about 20 seconds for the hot to arrive instead of about 16 seconds as before (YMMV based on distances.) Good luck either way you go.
1307722
I don't have this system yet but am looking at it. I saw this question posted on the 28401E model and it was stated that the difference between the two was that the 28401E is an older model and the 28403E is the newer model. The newer 28403E has a water softening system on it.
756671
I would get one with ONLY cold water supply. That is all we have and we have enjoyed them wihout hot water. Unless you have a Hot water recircling pump in that bathroom, it will probably take too long to get the hot water there anyway. If you are very cold natured, I would get one with dual temps, and have it installed by an expert, or a plumber. You will probably still need the pump unless you are very close to your hot water tank. Enjoy!
2239573
Lol ya.it changed my life.I hope you get one.don't get the warm water one its pointless because water is always cold until it heats up .
1248432
Could definitely keep up. I would recommend however to get a small reserve tank of about 10gallons with a recirc pump. Basically you get hot water direct from tank and them takagi refills IIT as you go. Very economical without having variations or time delay in water temp. I'm doing 2 of these in line this way for a 4000sq ft house right now in seattle area for a customer. Good luck.
1747701
To be honest I didn't notice much difference. I have 2 but cannot remember which model numbers are the 2 I purchased. One has the heating attachment and the other does not. The heat is the only difference between the 2 I have.
2202832
I have it in a 3 BR 1 bath rental property with 3 people. They take showers one right after the other and said they don't run out of hot water whatsoever. It seems to do wonderful there. its been installed now for 5 months and no problems, tenants are very happy with it. I had to buyer the gas line, plumbing etc to where it tied in, but that's normal with any new installation. It was a tremendous savings over a traditional water heater, and the tenants and I are very glad we installed it. So much so, that I am installing the same one in a diner I own for the dishwasher. I think it will work great. Hope that helps.
1911641
You would have to wait for it to circulate the water so the only advantage I can think of is you are not wasting water while you wait as you did before. Mine runs continuously unless we are away from home for any period of time and I can not see any substantial increase in electricity use plus the hot water is there within seconds so I'm sure I an offsetting any increase in electricity use with much less water usage.
1793470
Yes, the product is very reliable in this respect. The Vi-110 does rely on the same water pressure as your toilet (there's no independent pump). This means that if you flush and then try to use it, the stream will be slightly weaker (since both the toilet and the Vi-110 are competing for water from the same source). This corrects itself, however, as soon as the tank of your toilet has been filled.
66444
Not at all, but this means you might not be getting enough juice to the unit. You need a 200 Amp panel, two heavy cables (6/2 and 6/3) running from the unit to the electric panel. And you need to have 2 upgraded breakers at the panel. Also, if you have a lot of electrical usage at any one time (dishwasher running, A/C cranking, TV, and all the lights on), this may strain the system a bit for the short time that you use hot water. And, it also depends on the model that you bought and if that model accommodates the house size and family that you have. I have not had any issues with this unit so far. Then again I live in FL and I never need the water to be all that hot. I keep the temperature setting at 117 degrees and that seems just right. However, I do need to install a descaling system to prevent any scale buildup inside the unit, because FL water is hard water. All part of my master plan. ;O)
497581
I think mine saves me about half the water, if I had not installed the Laing lhb08100085, however, the one I had before was 100% better but, it also gave problems, the cold faucet was always warm but, if you want a cold glass of water you can go to the refrig. and get one.
1484510
It has been the best home investment every not wasting money heating water all the time. warm weather hot water in 45 seconds. cold weather 90 seconds.if installed properly maintenance free. 1 time a year clean inlet strainer. also we have ran a dishwasher, washing machine, and a person showering with no issues.and have had 2 people showering no issues. 2 bed 2 1/2 bath 2 people. 4 people when family visits and no issues and never run out of hot water and saved $15 to $20 a month in electric.