HDMI pass thru or usable?...help I'm looking at purchasing a cheap under 500 home theater and thought I had it down to:Sony HT-SS2300 5.1Onkyo HT-S5100 7.1Both have 3 hdmi in and 1 out, which I really like but I was just reading the Onkyo doesn't use the HDMI for Audio just video, meaning I would need to hook up a separate audio cables? Any help or direction would be great! HDMI pass thru or usable?...help I'm looking at purchasing a cheap under 500 home theater and thought I had it down to:Sony HT-SS2300 5.1Onkyo HT-S5100 7.1Both have 3 hdmi in... » Read More HDMI pass thru or usable?...help I'm looking at purchasing a cheap under 500 home theater and thought I had it down to:Sony HT-SS2300 5.1Onkyo HT-S5100 7.1Both have 3 hdmi in and 1 out, which I really like but I was just reading the Onkyo doesn't use the HDMI for Audio just video, meaning I would need to hook up a separate audio cables? Any help or direction would be great! « Show Less
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Hey James--I just finished hooking up my Onkyo HT-S5100 to my Panasonic blu-ray and Panasonic plasma tv. The sound is just amazing! Don't let the nay-sayers drive you crazy. You just hook up the HDMI to the player, Onkyo and tv. But I used a Toslink optical cable to feed the sound from the tv to the Onkyo.Uh, this was my first experience with optical cables. It took my two hours to realize there are almost invisible silicone covers on the tips. Two hours wasted--DOAH!
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Hey Craig-Which optical input connection on the Onkyo receiver did you use to connect the optical cable from your TV? I'm not having success. :-(
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John - I hope I am not bothersome in my quest for accurate and intelligent information, if so, please tell me you have had enough. Otherwise, I have read a lot of posts and reviews regaridng 1.3 and 1.3a HDMI cables. I also remember you advised not to go with cheap cables which I agree with despite many saying they cannot notice a difference. My receiver is hdmi 1.3 and I know the PS3 is as well. I read that you should make sure that the HDMI cable is certified as a 1.3 and have read that all HDMIs support 1.3 (which I am not sure I believe). What is the truth and what cable do you recommend that is certified as 1.3? Also, does it matter if the cable is 1.3 or 1.3a? John - I hope I am not bothersome in my quest for accurate and intelligent information, if so, please tell me you have had enough. Otherwise, I have read a lot of posts and reviews regaridng 1.3 and 1.3a HDMI cables. I also remember you advised not to go with cheap cables which I agree with despite many saying they cannot notice a difference. My receiver is hdmi 1.3 and I know the PS3 is as well. I read that you should make sure that the HDMI cable is certified as a 1.3 and have read that all HDMIs support 1.3 (which I am not sure I believe). What is the truth and what cable do you... » Read More John - I hope I am not bothersome in my quest for accurate and intelligent information, if so, please tell me you have had enough. Otherwise, I have read a lot of posts and reviews regaridng 1.3 and 1.3a HDMI cables. I also remember you advised not to go with cheap cables which I agree with despite many saying they cannot notice a difference. My receiver is hdmi 1.3 and I know the PS3 is as well. I read that you should make sure that the HDMI cable is certified as a 1.3 and have read that all HDMIs support 1.3 (which I am not sure I believe). What is the truth and what cable do you recommend that is certified as 1.3? Also, does it matter if the cable is 1.3 or 1.3a? « Show Less
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The only thing limiting your audio is your receiver. The newer Denons and Onkyos have HDMI ins and outs which should take care of the issue, not to mention enough room for a 7.1 rig. Best of luck.IRSSLEX
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Thanks for the response A.L. I originally had everything hooked up with HDMI -- both my HD-DVR cable box and my upconvert DVD player. My first thought was maybe it was the cables themselves, as I bought less expensive ones off Amazon. Tonight I went out and bought top of the line HDMI cables from Best Buy. Same problem! Then I figured I'd take the HDMI cables out of the equation and test my iPod using the auxiliary RCA jack on the front of the receiver. Same problem!I'm positive the speakers are connected correctly and completely. And these are also brand new -- the Onkyo SKS-HT540 7.1ch home theater set!I think I have a bum receiver. I listen to my morning TV at level 60. That just doesn't seem right. Thanks for the response A.L. I originally had everything hooked up with HDMI -- both my HD-DVR cable box and my upconvert DVD player. My first thought was maybe it was the cables themselves, as I bought less expensive ones off Amazon. Tonight I went out and bought top of the line HDMI cables from Best Buy. Same problem! Then I figured I'd take the HDMI cables out of the equation and test my iPod using the auxiliary RCA jack on the front of the receiver. Same problem!I'm positive the speakers are connected correctly and completely. And these are also brand new -- the Onkyo... » Read More Thanks for the response A.L. I originally had everything hooked up with HDMI -- both my HD-DVR cable box and my upconvert DVD player. My first thought was maybe it was the cables themselves, as I bought less expensive ones off Amazon. Tonight I went out and bought top of the line HDMI cables from Best Buy. Same problem! Then I figured I'd take the HDMI cables out of the equation and test my iPod using the auxiliary RCA jack on the front of the receiver. Same problem!I'm positive the speakers are connected correctly and completely. And these are also brand new -- the Onkyo SKS-HT540 7.1ch home theater set!I think I have a bum receiver. I listen to my morning TV at level 60. That just doesn't seem right. « Show Less
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Thanks P. Seto, I think I will try the same. However, I Checked out the Onkyo 605 at my local Best Buy ($499), but on Amazon ($408), and it looks like it could do some serious damage. My only gripe is that it only has 2 hdmi inputs. I may want to add a PS3 at a later date, which would have my entertainment system running 3 hdmi cables. Is True HD and Dolby Digital plus a huge difference with the onkyo receiver capable of this type of audio?
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I have the same problem 5.1 only seems to pass thru HDMI 1. I have to connect my bluRay player directly to Amp to get 5.1
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If you already have a 5.1 setup, then why do you care about audio on this projector? Oh, after thinking about your question, I realized that you must not have a Home Theater Receiver. This projector is not an AV receiver. You can only hook up headphones/small speakers to this projector. You should really be using separate receiver for your speakers.
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I know this is old, but I have to disagree; of the models discussed here, only THIS one will handle "high-def" (uncompressed) surround sound from the PS3. The Sony that Knowledge Forest posted has no HDMI inputs; its HDMI output is for the DVD changer only. The Yamaha & Onkyo you suggested have only "pass-thru" HDMI inputs, which merely pass the sound from the HDMI input on to the TV. For all three, the only way to get surround sound to the receiver is by digital optical/coax cables, which handle only DVD-quality surround sound (uncompressed LPCM 2.0 or lossy-compression DD 5.1 & DTS 5.1/6.1)--*not* the newest, lossless HD audio formats (LPCM, Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio, all at up to 7.1) on Blu-rays & PS3 games. The HT-SS2300 (as well as its predecessor HT-SS2000 and successor HT-SS360), however, will receive high-def LPCM sound over the HDMI connection; that's exactly what the PS3 outputs over HDMI from DVDs, PS3 games & especially Blu-rays. The PS3 will decode all the HD formats and send them to this receiver as LPCM 5.1. Thus, this model should produce BETTER sound than the others discussed earlier. To get HD sound from a current Yamaha or Onkyo model, you'd have to upgrade to a more expensive receiver that can actually decode TrueHD or DTS-HD MA; but that's totally useless for the PS3 (though not for the newest high-end Blu-ray players). Since the PS3 came out before HDMI 1.3, it cannot bitstream those formats; it only decodes them to LPCM. However, since TrueHD & DTS-HD MA are merely "lossless" compression (like a Zip file) of the original LPCM, you still get the same HD sound; you just won't see a Dolby or DTS light on your receiver. (To see the logo on your TV screen, press the "Display" button on the PS3 Bluetooth remote.) For PS3 owners, this is the BEST home theater system out there for the money, unless you need fancier speakers or other special features.
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If you want picture and sound with the receiver or the 607 turned off, you'll have to connect your source to the television and not use the receiver. HDMI pass through merely implies that the receiver does no processing of it's own on the signal, essentially acting as an HDMI switch. However, the vast majority of receivers must be powered in order to allow the digital signal through
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Mine failed today. I found out Onkyo has issued a recall for loss of audio. They are giving me the option to have it repaired or a $125 rebate towards a new receiver. Going to get it repaired and be done with Onkyo if it fails again. This was my 2nd Onkyo receiver and both of them had issues with the HDMI board.
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I have an Onkyo TXSR 601 which has optic 5.1 not HDMI. Wouldn't this be the way to go as far as connecting audio over the RCA 5.1 jacks? I have hooked up the video through the HDMI to the TV directly, I wish the TV Panasonic 9th gen 50" plasma would transfer the digital audio through optic out but it does not.
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Honestly, buy a new receiver. You need this, and then you can continue using the speakers you have. Trying to do this any other way is not a good idea, and will end up costing you the same amount of money and continued frustrations on lack of HDMI inputs and outputs.
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Mark, I am considering buying a Sony KDL-40EX700 TV and a BDV-E770W or BDV-570 Blu-ray Disc Player Home Entertainment sytem. I went to the Sony web site and contacted David P. on their chat link and asked the HDMI hook up question.His reply is as follows: "I'd be happy to assist you with that. There is one HDMI connection on those systems that connects to your Television. Once you have connected that, you would then plug any other devices that you have (Cable Box, Game Systems etc) to your TV via HDMI and it will send the sound to the surround sound system." Sounds like it should work but have yet to try it. Good luck. Mark, I am considering buying a Sony KDL-40EX700 TV and a BDV-E770W or BDV-570 Blu-ray Disc Player Home Entertainment sytem. I went to the Sony web site and contacted David P. on their chat link and asked the HDMI hook up question.His reply is as follows: "I'd be happy to assist you with that. There is one HDMI connection on those systems that connects to your Television. Once you have connected that, you would then plug any other devices that you have (Cable Box, Game Systems etc) to your TV via HDMI and it will send the sound to the surround sound system." Sounds... » Read More Mark, I am considering buying a Sony KDL-40EX700 TV and a BDV-E770W or BDV-570 Blu-ray Disc Player Home Entertainment sytem. I went to the Sony web site and contacted David P. on their chat link and asked the HDMI hook up question.His reply is as follows: "I'd be happy to assist you with that. There is one HDMI connection on those systems that connects to your Television. Once you have connected that, you would then plug any other devices that you have (Cable Box, Game Systems etc) to your TV via HDMI and it will send the sound to the surround sound system." Sounds like it should work but have yet to try it. Good luck. « Show Less
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I also had problems with the digital audio connection. I was never able to get any sound out of that output. I read in other forums that only TV audio will come out from that connection and it won't work to pass through audio from other sources (hdmi). Ultimately, I had to connect my devices' audio directly to my home theatre system. This work-around was not ideal, but got the job done. Just a little more hassle to change a/v sources since I have to change both the TV and the home theatre receiver.
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Just got the 215 @ Costco for $149.99. Doing firmware update via wifi now. Still haven't played anything with it... just passing in info on the price. The HDMI cable it comes with is fine for those of use who know how to separate our power cables from our video/audio cables. If you mix them, you may want something with a heavier insulation on it. I need Lasik anyway, like I'd notice the difference between a free HDMI cable and a $90 Monster brand cable.
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The Onkyo receivers measure from 6 positions too. Craig can buy any receiver with 1080p "pass thru" over HDMI and he will get what he wants. Pass thru means it passes the signal unaltered. All of the current Onkyo and Denon HDMI receivers will pass thru 1080p. Integra is made by Onkyo, as far as I know. If I remember correctly, Denon, Panasonic and Technics are all owned by the same parent company too.http://www.audyssey.com/products/
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actually it will pass through video but not audio when powered off (at least for my experience/TV) if you turn off hdmi p.save (power saving) in the menu. I do this when playing my PS3 with my headphones connected to the secondary audio/RCA output of the PS3 with an adapter on the PS3 since the HTSS360 has no headphone jack. To do this however you have to enable multiple audio out in your PS3 settings, and remember to turn that off if you want 7.1 sound for blu ray since for some reason enabling multiple audio out for PS3 cuts down LPCM to 5.1 instead of 7.1 with it off. As for TV audio if you use a cable box I'm not sure you can that way, unless you plug a second audio cable from cablebox to one of your TV's inputs and then in audio settings in your TV can set that input as TV audio. Mine has the ability for that but it's not a Sony TV which I'm unfamiliar with.