Cannot remove paddle! I have inherited my Mom's breadmaker and just made my first loaf, which was a huge success! However, I am unable to remove the paddle and had quite a job getting the loaf out of the basket---the paddle left a ripped hole in the bottom! Could someone please tell me how to remove the paddle? Pulling on it does not move it! Thanks so much! Cannot remove paddle! I have inherited my Mom's breadmaker and just made my first loaf, which was a huge success! However, I am unable to remove the paddle and had quite a job getting the loaf... » Read More Cannot remove paddle! I have inherited my Mom's breadmaker and just made my first loaf, which was a huge success! However, I am unable to remove the paddle and had quite a job getting the loaf out of the basket---the paddle left a ripped hole in the bottom! Could someone please tell me how to remove the paddle? Pulling on it does not move it! Thanks so much! « Show Less
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It should work... I think I'd try removing the paddle BEFORE the final rise. Just after what the instructions call "punch down". This way, the dough can rise undisturbed. Something like this: unplug machine, remove pan, remove dough, remove paddle from dough, replace dough into pan and replace pan into machine. Plug in electric and timer should start back up at correct point, if power has not been off for more than thirty minutes. HOWEVER, ( isn't there always a 'however' ) removing the pan and dough will cool everything down. The rise time might need to be lengthened. It should work... I think I'd try removing the paddle BEFORE the final rise. Just after what the instructions call "punch down". This way, the dough can rise undisturbed. Something like this: unplug machine, remove pan, remove dough, remove paddle from dough, replace dough into pan and replace pan into machine. Plug in electric and timer should start back up at correct point, if power has not been off for more than thirty minutes. HOWEVER, ( isn't there always a 'however' ) removing the pan and dough will cool everything down. The rise time might need to be... » Read More It should work... I think I'd try removing the paddle BEFORE the final rise. Just after what the instructions call "punch down". This way, the dough can rise undisturbed. Something like this: unplug machine, remove pan, remove dough, remove paddle from dough, replace dough into pan and replace pan into machine. Plug in electric and timer should start back up at correct point, if power has not been off for more than thirty minutes. HOWEVER, ( isn't there always a 'however' ) removing the pan and dough will cool everything down. The rise time might need to be lengthened. « Show Less
328278
I had this problem recently, and I used a piece of plastic to pry the paddle off. Now I coat the spindle it sits on with canola oil before baking.
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When I had a bread machine I was very happy not to have the paddle come loose in the bread. Maybe if you grease the paddle well before putting in dough it will release the bread more easily and you won't have to pull it from your loaf. If your paddle has a nonstick coating this may work.
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Before buying my 5891, I read of this 'sticking paddle' problem. Since buying, what I have been doing prior to baking, is rubbing a little oil ( butter, olive oil or whatever edible lube is close at hand ) onto the stem. My paddle has not yet stuck.
328281
Set baking to delay 1 hour. Remove dough then paddle. Replace dough back in machine then press start to start baking. Would that work?
328282
I'm on my third bread machine since they first became available and all three have done the same thing paddle-wise (and they are all different brands). I let it go and wash the pan with the paddle intact. Whether the paddle comes off the spindle or not, it's *still* going to leave a small tear in the bottom of the loaf (you DO have to remove it from the bread, after all). In fact, the bread bakes *around* the paddle and a tear/slit/hole forms during THAT process.I usually don't serve the "heel" of the loaf, anyway.
328283
The hole is standard issue with bread makers or any I've been around. Just cover the bottom of the pan in water and let it soak free. Don't try to force it or you will damage the seals. Been there and done that one.
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I had the same problem! Let the pan soak in hot water for 5-10 minutes, then wiggle the paddle back and forth. After a minute, it should loosen and you can pull it off. If it doesn't, get a wash cloth and slide it under the paddle. Then pull upwards. That should do the trick!
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This is one of the only bread machines that I didn't have a problem removing the paddle from. After it cools off put one hand on the wing nut underneath and give it a very slight turn while holding the paddle firmly. You will feel it "pop" loose and then yo can just pull the paddle out of the bread pan.
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It seems that there is an easy problem to the two paddle system. If the paddles align accross the width of the bread rather than the lenght, the damage to the loaf is minimal (2-4 slices have holes). If the padles allign down the lenght of the loaf than all the slices have holes. Does anybody know if the ZO alighns accross the width?
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There is only one collapsible paddle that sticks in the bread every time. It kneads and mixes the dough. It doesn't do it for me. Maybe you'll have better results.
604437
I don't know how to describe the kneading paddle. Looks pretty much like any other bread machine's kneading paddle. No, it has never gotten stuck.
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Since I responded to this question, I have conquered what should have been much easier (for me) on how to make a beautiful loaf of old-fashioned bread. I have finally been turning them out in perfect form and taste. The secret to correcting my far from perfect loaves was to make sure the paddles were clean underneath so they could turn as they are meant to turn. It speaks poorly as to my cleanliness I suppose, but I really thought I had them clean before I discovered I did not. This West Bend is one nice bread machine and I'm glad I stuck with it.
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Wolfgang Puck machine has 2 paddles. I used the hell out of mine until the element went tits up and the machine had to be trashed as it kept tripping my GFI in the kitchen. Great machine while it lasted though and made some pretty great bread. Horizontal loaf also
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The benefit ? The paddle will lay sideways in the bread and all you have to do is pull it out of the loaf. The other way if it wasn't collapsible it would leave a big hole in the center of your loaf. You will still have a small hole but not like you would have if the paddle wasn't collapsible. You only have one paddle in use at the time. It doesn't have to working paddles at the same time. I like my breadman.
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I have been making bread with mine since day one! I haven't had any problems with it and even let my bread sit and rise in the bowl and then turn it on low to knead the bread! I have used it mostly for bread and stiff dough and as long as you keep it on low and don't get in a hurry....it doesn't even heat up? I have made dough for pretzels, regulat white bread, pizza dough, and even wheat bread "which seems to get the thickest and stalls it a little more, but has been doing just fine for me! Just don't make the mistake that I did on my first one and try to do butter and walk away for a min or two because the butter will turn out of nowhere and splash all of the cream or whey out "even with a towel over it" and if it gets under the unit...it will suck up into the fan which is right under neath the unit about a 1/4 of an inch from the work surface and will suck up into the motor and burn up or short out the unit! But other than that...I have made about 50 loaves of every kind of bread you can make in the last 3 or 4 weeks and use it daily, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day and I have no problem! Yes a cover and maybe a little more power would be nice, but I can make 2 BIG loafs of any kind of bread in it and I have had no problems, just do the dough on low to #2 until it gets thick and turn it down to low, let it rise and put it back on low for 5 mins to knead the bread!
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You need to push fairly hard to get it to snap back in place. And like Bogdan I am not happy with the way this bread machine works in general. It is fine if you follow the recipes in the supplied booklet but if you have tried and trusted old recipes or recipes from the internet they will most likely fail. I have been using the same bread maker for 20+ years with no issues and this Oster does not work the same way as my old one. I have been trying to get the "old" recipes to work and have deduced that if you use less yeast it works better. Anyone having issues if you search to Oster and falling loaves you will find quite a bit. Good luck.... You need to push fairly hard to get it to snap back in place. And like Bogdan I am not happy with the way this bread machine works in general. It is fine if you follow the recipes in the supplied booklet but if you have tried and trusted old recipes or recipes from the internet they will most likely fail. I have been using the same bread maker for 20+ years with no issues and this Oster does not work the same way as my old one. I have been trying to get the "old" recipes to work and have deduced that if you use less yeast it works better. Anyone having issues if you search to... » Read More You need to push fairly hard to get it to snap back in place. And like Bogdan I am not happy with the way this bread machine works in general. It is fine if you follow the recipes in the supplied booklet but if you have tried and trusted old recipes or recipes from the internet they will most likely fail. I have been using the same bread maker for 20+ years with no issues and this Oster does not work the same way as my old one. I have been trying to get the "old" recipes to work and have deduced that if you use less yeast it works better. Anyone having issues if you search to Oster and falling loaves you will find quite a bit. Good luck.... « Show Less
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No you don't need to remove the paddle (there's only one paddle). The paddle does get very hot so when you remove the loaf pan out WITH oven mitts, and once you dump the steaming loaf of bread out of the pan, you'll need to let the paddle cool before taking it out from the loaf. Obviously it will leave a small whole in the loaf but the freshly baked smell and taste of your loaves of bread make up for it. Enjoy!
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I want to answer this because I also had an Oster, which I returned to the store, because we could not remove the pan...my husband finally turned the machine on its side and I dug the bread out. Horrible. The T-fal machine locks easily by placing it diagonally, then turning slightly, and removes by reversing the process. I love it.
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The paddle sat in the machine rather loosely, I thought, and it did get stuck for me..in fact, was the reason the thing quit working maybe. I tried two of these machines...both of them broke down so I gave up completely. If I get another bread machine it won't be Panasonic, unless they make me an "offer I can't refuse."
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I would suspect that you put it on so that the flat of the paddle and the flat of the shaft were not lined up. Check for that first. If they are lined up, put a little water inside and let it soak for some hours - maybe some dough is sticking it up. If they are not lined up, you need to buy two little flat pry bars or find two somethings that you can use that are "L" shaped or buy the smallest size of pulley puller so that you can get pressure under both sides of the paddle and pry evenly under both. Good luck!
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It does make a difference. Make sure the paddles are not facing the same way when you start. I learned it from watching other celebs sell their dual-paddle breadmakers. I have done that ever since and the bread comes out perfect. Of course, I also measure the flour in a specific way (spoonful by spoonful) and I carefully measure my water temperature every time. When I am using milk in a recipe, I mix it in with the water in small amounts to get the temperature range exactly where it needs to be. If using eggs, I set the eggs out in advance to take the chill off so the liquids aren't chilled too much. Following these steps and in-date ingredients has made for successful bread every time. I like removing the paddles after the last knead only so I don't have to pull them out of the bread after baking. I don't do it every time. I live in a low altitude area.
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No when you finish baking to remove bread without making a large hole in the bottom, you reverse the paddle from the bottom and it will collapse the paddle.
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I too found the coating on the paddles wore off quickly. Unfortunately it didn't completely wear off but instead left frayed edges which make it impossible to remove the paddles without tearing the hell out of the bottom of the bread with all those loose, frayed ends baked into the bread. Their quote for replacement paddles was unreasonable.
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I have had several bread machines over the years and once I had to re-order a paddle that broke. Now, I go to the Salvation Army and get a brand new machine for $10 or $15. All these machine are basically the same and will break overtime.