Zeno Hot Spot 80 uses then what? So I'm debating whether or not I should get this product. Is it 80 uses per battery charge? Or is it 80 uses and buy a new one?
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If its disposable after 80 uses....why the replacement tips?I still love the device!!
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I just read the manual online at Zeno's website (myzeno.com, click on support), and unfortunately, yes, the product is meant to be disposable. That means 80 uses and then into the trash it goes. According to the website, they are planning to solely market this product moving forward, which strikes me as a cynical attempt to squeeze a bit more money out of their customers. I couldn't find any suggestion anywhere on their website that the Hot Spot is a superior product to their older products. Plus, it seems odd (could that be a euphemism for greedy and insensitive?) at a time when the world is moving toward more sustainable reusable products for Zeno to be heading in the opposite direction. I just read the manual online at Zeno's website (myzeno.com, click on support), and unfortunately, yes, the product is meant to be disposable. That means 80 uses and then into the trash it goes. According to the website, they are planning to solely market this product moving forward, which strikes me as a cynical attempt to squeeze a bit more money out of their customers. I couldn't find any suggestion anywhere on their website that the Hot Spot is a superior product to their older products. Plus, it seems odd (could that be a euphemism for greedy and insensitive?) at a time when the world... » Read More I just read the manual online at Zeno's website (myzeno.com, click on support), and unfortunately, yes, the product is meant to be disposable. That means 80 uses and then into the trash it goes. According to the website, they are planning to solely market this product moving forward, which strikes me as a cynical attempt to squeeze a bit more money out of their customers. I couldn't find any suggestion anywhere on their website that the Hot Spot is a superior product to their older products. Plus, it seems odd (could that be a euphemism for greedy and insensitive?) at a time when the world is moving toward more sustainable reusable products for Zeno to be heading in the opposite direction. « Show Less
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I've done the math on the disposable versus the reusable Zeno. Disposable is cheaper so I will buy another one. Paid $35 and a 52-year old (lucky me for having zits for going on 40 years) and 19-year old have used it for AT LEAST a year and a half. If I had this when I was 13 year old, I would have hardly any scars on my face. It just works on the big, hurtful bumps but if you feel it coming up, it has never taken more than 3 apps to make it disappear. When I have forgotten to use it quickly enough or not resisted the urge to pick, it still reduces the time in healing. Simply the best acne product I've ever used in 40 years and I have tried everything, prescription and non. I've done the math on the disposable versus the reusable Zeno. Disposable is cheaper so I will buy another one. Paid $35 and a 52-year old (lucky me for having zits for going on 40 years) and 19-year old have used it for AT LEAST a year and a half. If I had this when I was 13 year old, I would have hardly any scars on my face. It just works on the big, hurtful bumps but if you feel it coming up, it has never taken more than 3 apps to make it disappear. When I have forgotten to use it quickly enough or not resisted the urge to pick, it still reduces the time in healing. Simply the best acne... » Read More I've done the math on the disposable versus the reusable Zeno. Disposable is cheaper so I will buy another one. Paid $35 and a 52-year old (lucky me for having zits for going on 40 years) and 19-year old have used it for AT LEAST a year and a half. If I had this when I was 13 year old, I would have hardly any scars on my face. It just works on the big, hurtful bumps but if you feel it coming up, it has never taken more than 3 apps to make it disappear. When I have forgotten to use it quickly enough or not resisted the urge to pick, it still reduces the time in healing. Simply the best acne product I've ever used in 40 years and I have tried everything, prescription and non. « Show Less
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What a bummer that its a disposable. And yes that is odd! A product that takes batteries I assumed would be reusable but I wanted to know for sure. Thanks David for the reply! That's really too bad if they're discontinuing their reusable models. I will probably shell out the $40 to try it just to see if I get any results. It might be worth it if I only get a few bad blemishes when I break out. Shopoholic my be right if I can make the 80 uses last longer than other treatments. Thank you for all your help!
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HelloI bought a Zeno HotSpot and was thrilled with it until it stopped working! I was shocked to find a battery operated device like this is disposable. There is no good reason for this except for the company to continue ripping off customers on a regular basis. Having a good product with a built in expiration for no good reason is environmentally irresponsible and just plain greedy. I would have paid double for this device would it have kept working until it wore out on its own. I wish companies like this would think about the impact on the planet instead of just making a quick buck! HelloI bought a Zeno HotSpot and was thrilled with it until it stopped working! I was shocked to find a battery operated device like this is disposable. There is no good reason for this except for the company to continue ripping off customers on a regular basis. Having a good product with a built in expiration for no good reason is environmentally irresponsible and just plain greedy. I would have paid double for this device would it have kept working until it wore out on its own. I wish companies like this would think about the impact on the planet instead of just making a quick... » Read More HelloI bought a Zeno HotSpot and was thrilled with it until it stopped working! I was shocked to find a battery operated device like this is disposable. There is no good reason for this except for the company to continue ripping off customers on a regular basis. Having a good product with a built in expiration for no good reason is environmentally irresponsible and just plain greedy. I would have paid double for this device would it have kept working until it wore out on its own. I wish companies like this would think about the impact on the planet instead of just making a quick buck! « Show Less
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It's only 80 uses. After throwing hundreds of dollars into the Zeno money pit, I bought the Sirius Pulsar and found it works just as well and does not have limited uses. The only complaint I have about the Pulsar is that it's power button is too sensitive. I throw it in my purse, only to find the battery has worn down because it has been inadvertently turned on. (Still cheaper to buy batteries than endless Zenos)
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I as well had this unit stop working randomly...but I used it like 20 times over 3 months. First it would not always turn on, today it wont turn on at all!
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From my experience, this product is waaay cheaper than even just a 1 month's supply of the last (unsuccessful) popular skin care line I tried...which I might add did NOT work at all and also dried out the skin on my face everywhere instead of just the spot (it was pretty ugly!). Mine will probably last close to a year too. Because it works so effectively on blemishes and lasts much longer than topicals, I have no problem throwing it away after that for only $39. I also like the convenience that I can take it anywhere with me because it is so small and works on just regular batteries, but I don't have to remember to charge it like a cell phone. From my experience, this product is waaay cheaper than even just a 1 month's supply of the last (unsuccessful) popular skin care line I tried...which I might add did NOT work at all and also dried out the skin on my face everywhere instead of just the spot (it was pretty ugly!). Mine will probably last close to a year too. Because it works so effectively on blemishes and lasts much longer than topicals, I have no problem throwing it away after that for only $39. I also like the convenience that I can take it anywhere with me because it is so small and works on just regular batteries, but I... » Read More From my experience, this product is waaay cheaper than even just a 1 month's supply of the last (unsuccessful) popular skin care line I tried...which I might add did NOT work at all and also dried out the skin on my face everywhere instead of just the spot (it was pretty ugly!). Mine will probably last close to a year too. Because it works so effectively on blemishes and lasts much longer than topicals, I have no problem throwing it away after that for only $39. I also like the convenience that I can take it anywhere with me because it is so small and works on just regular batteries, but I don't have to remember to charge it like a cell phone. « Show Less
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I don't know what these guys are talking about it only lasting 8 or 12 hours between charges. What are they doing with it? I work on my computer 8 hours a day and have to recharge the battery every few months or so. What am I missing?
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I'm like Phil - I had to buy a new mower. My battery lasted a little over a year. I've read other comments that said the same. One person did mention that they contacted Ryobi and they sent him a new battery because they know this is a problem. I wish I would have tried that before giving the mower away. I kept my battery charging at all times - maybe that was the problem? I now own a gas mower and it actually isn't as painful or messy as I remember it being when I was younger and it uses very little gas.
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Allen: after using this charger a few times I am disappointed in it. One of the charging stations actually heats up the battery and it starts to leak acid. I stopped using it all together. I was standing next to it and heard a pop after not relizing what it was it took a bit to open the charger and find this is what made the noise. This charges very well but that one station kills the battery. I'm sorry to say I am disappointed to say the least. To answer your querstion it has lights above each charging station and they go from red to green when the batteries ar charged.
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Don't know that it is "acceptable" or not, but I seem to get 3-4 shaves before recharging. I now have 2, so 1 is always on a charger. My 1st one was dropped in water, so it didn't seem to hold a charge for very long. So, I used to use it while plugged in to the charger/outlet. I had to buy my 2nd one because my charger went out and stopped charging (replacement chargers are about $40.00, cheaper to buy a whole new razor)! Guess you could call/email manufacturer and ask them what the "charge/battery" life is, or should be?
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Hi Karen,This was a Christmas gift for my husband so I asked him. He says he uses "re-chargeable" batteries and that he doesn't leave the camera on all of the time. When he see the message about the battery being exhausted he simply turns it off and it will re-charge a bit. But he has a charger and uses that too. So, I agree with the other answer, you need to get re-chargeable batteries and a charger. It is a really nice little camera.
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I only charged it twice while in Bora Bora, Tahiti and area. I made 2 1/2 hours of video with it. I mainly charged it when it was 50% or less to make sure I didn't run out. I was using a neighbor's ZM1 and was impressed enough to buy my own. Good luck.
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In theory, the charger with which it comes includes an internal voltage-sensing cut-off switch: so the battery stops receiving charge current once it's capacity is filled. That said, it's never good practice to leave any battery on charge longer than necessary - especially LiPos. This generation of batteries are infinitely more performant than previous generations: yet they are also more delicate. They may swell and seemingly heat-up on use. Never start charging a cell that is even slightly hot - such as it may well be immediately after using it: allow a few minutes for it to cool. Be careful of shorting the connectors whilst storing during Travel... Isolate from potential sharp objects that could puncture the skin... (Keep away from pet's teeth..!!) If not using for some time, recharge to filled capacity and then use for 2 minutes prior to storage (80% full)... I store mine coddled in fine sand, three to a sardine-can sized old metal chewing tobacco tin: in the event of a fire, these cells burn at very high temperatures and need to be starved of all oxygen - and even then, the damage that can be caused in even a short time, may be significant... Bottom line : RESPECT the integrity of these cells and they will give great service.
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Its absolutely perfect for this. I use mine for these things exactly. I dont know how many charges you will get, but it will be many as long as you keep the unit charged.
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I have heard of people doing it with any charger, but it is dangerous and can easily cause a fire!! If you want to do it, do it outside in a safe place. You have to jolt it back to life with the NiMh or NiCd charge first, you have to get it above the dreaded 3amps. I have never done it but have friends who have, and yes they have burst one or two into flames!! I have also heard of them changing polarity, but have never seen that happen. I would highly recommend getting a laser temp gun to monitor the battery wile trying to get it back to 3amps. But like I said, THIS IS DANGEROUS AND IT IS BEST NOT TO TRY IT!!
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I've had mine about 40 days. Everything is working fine, better than expected actually. Have charged both batteries twice with no issues. As stated earlier, the charger does get warm. Probably warm enough to 'burn off' dust if it has any. As an HVAC mechanic, I generally get calls in the fall for dust getting burned off ( particularly in gas units), and people think their house is on fire. Can't guarantee that's what you're experiencing, but that would be my first guess. If in doubt, send it back
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Check on the battery occassionally while it's charging. Some times if the battery is to old, it will overheat and melt itself to the charger. I had it happen. If it hasn't been charged in quite awhile, the hot pack signal will come on. I took the battery out and let it sit for awhile. Put in back in the charger the next day and it fully charged.
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THANK YOU! I was on this site looking for a replacement because mine would not turn on at all, and I was devastated--My Zen has been my constant companion for about 3 years . I came across your post and decided to try it. Whaddya know-- It came back to life! Thanks again! :)
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Hi M. Crnkovich; Try and find a battery charger that you can plug into your car's cigarette lighter socket. I found one for my Olympus C8080 at "that big online auction site" if you know what I mean. I think it's a good idea to get 3 extra batteries and maybe a 2 gigabyte XD card if you can afford it. Here's a tip concerning the batteries: Store them close to your body to keep them warm. A warm battery will put out more juice and will last longer than a cold battery. I even keep my camera close to my side to keep it and the battery inside warm. That's if it's 30 degrees F or colder. These lithium ion batteries have what's called "rebound." After it's been drained, some of the charge comes back in a day or two, but not much. It's usually enough to take a quick shot before it totally dies, and then it will rebound again for one shot. Have fun in Alaska :) kkrome25
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OldAmazonian says:~{Gadgets like this can typically be kept topped up with a jumper from the car's lighter socket to the gadget's lighter socket. The better cords for the purpose have fuses in their plugs. The car's own voltage regulator maintains adequate level for intermittently charging the sealed lead acid battery without damage.}~While this more than likely should work, I'd let someone else try it before trying it on my own unit. Unless I tore it appart an investigated how things are wired inside and did some actual electrical measuring, I'd not try it unlesss I was willing to chance that something might get toasted. OldAmazonian says:~{Gadgets like this can typically be kept topped up with a jumper from the car's lighter socket to the gadget's lighter socket. The better cords for the purpose have fuses in their plugs. The car's own voltage regulator maintains adequate level for intermittently charging the sealed lead acid battery without damage.}~While this more than likely should work, I'd let someone else try it before trying it on my own unit. Unless I tore it appart an investigated how things are wired inside and did some actual electrical measuring, I'd not try it unlesss I was... » Read More OldAmazonian says:~{Gadgets like this can typically be kept topped up with a jumper from the car's lighter socket to the gadget's lighter socket. The better cords for the purpose have fuses in their plugs. The car's own voltage regulator maintains adequate level for intermittently charging the sealed lead acid battery without damage.}~While this more than likely should work, I'd let someone else try it before trying it on my own unit. Unless I tore it appart an investigated how things are wired inside and did some actual electrical measuring, I'd not try it unlesss I was willing to chance that something might get toasted. « Show Less
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How do I find out what is wrong with this battery? I did not know that you aren't supposed to use the regular battery tenders on these kind of batteries and I left it charging for a couple of days and now it is beyond dead. So if the tender didn't kill it, apparently (also read just now in the questions section) if it drops below 8% charge it is no longer anything but a paperweight? So tell me now if I should just go out and buy a new battery after wasting my money on the 1 ride I got out of this battery.
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I must AMMEND my former statement!!! A DUMMY battery is NOT A DEAD one. They are actually sold as dummies by companies and are cheap. I was lucky enough to have been corrected by RbwNY on July 7th. He/she informed me of this and added that pairing a 'dead' battery with the Li-on s can cause damage, etc. to the equipment. I should have known this as I know that pairing even an alkaline with a on-alkaline is NOT recommended. My apologies to everyone out there who has read my former comment. And a BIG THANKS to RbwNY for the help and advice!!!