hf 200 or what? Ok I was waiting for this model to come out it appears that people are no happy with it so, what other choices do we have?
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I see the price of the HF200 is coming down in some retailers. But even the lower price is too high. Based on comparisons, I don't think the HF200 is worth a dollar more that $600. What else? I got a friend raving about the JVC Everio, which he carries everywhere with him.
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love it - perfect midrange camera to play with until the next generation cams come out in a year or 2.Yes - you can go with teh HFS 100 for only about 400 more. but why would you when technology changes so fast?Next year I will but the HFS100 equivalent for 200 bucks (using the 400 i just saved)Always go mid-range folks - do NOT be a measurebator and get stuck in the weeds.
903010
HFS100 advertises 3264x1840 video resolution. Do you need a monitor/TV of that resolution to see the quality? The TV's on the market only go up to 1920x1080, I think. Does that mean there is no difference in quality between HF200 (2304x1296) and HFS100 when watching on TV?Also, HF200 has proprietary Sony file system (people complained). Does that really bother you?
903011
As of today, it actually costs a dollar less than $600 ;-) The bad reviews should maybe be reviewed too: Choppy videos are a consequence of HD shooting, not of the HF200, the software is poor but maybe that's because there is no need for any of it, hard disk or tape-based camcorders are totally obsolete nowadays, and too noisy anyway. The smaller sensor size compared to the much more expensive HF100 may or may not impact low light shooting (an objective comparison would be welcome), but there are also negative reviews about the HF100 low light quality. It might be a trade-off for the better optical and digital zoom. As for the review about non true progressive format, unless I misunderstand (I am no expert), this 60i format is just the internal format of the recording, and does not affect the capture or playback, which is 30p or 24p, depending on your set up. AVCHD seems to be supported throughout the whole editing/playback channel now, so the support issues encountered by the early AVCHD adopters are hopefully obsolete. We should look at the good points too, such as the movie mode (24p fps and movie color tone) which is rarely seen on consumer products at that price.
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Smart. I am an overdoer...hopefully I won't get those early adopter blues with this one. Too bad we don't review the operator. I for one need to compose more and complain less!If in Japan you are reading this, thank you.
218143
My pre-order was jsut cancelled :( how about yours?I dont have a lot of time to get a laptop and this is currently the only on the market that I'm interested in, not sure what to get now
1564445
Beware the Sony "cineframe" options -- they look terrible. I have a Sony HC3 and while it's a fine little camera in 1080i 60i mode, the pseudo-24p stuff looks awful.The HV20 promises TRUE 24fps recording, plus a cinematic gamma curve, plus OIS, plus manual audio level controls, plus better lowlight performance. I wasn't even planning on buying a new camera, but I'm buying an HV20. At $1099, it's a great deal!
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But it is frustrating...the HTS8140 looks great!...and the fact that they show it on their US website is a BIG TEASE!Get it Together PHILIPS!!
530905
It does suck, I was watching for it at the end of January :'( One thing I'm wondering about is how much it will cost. If it's not too much I'll give the Wind I have now to my brother and get the U115.
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I am still waiting for the EX485. I am not in a hurry but I sure hope they will ship it soon. Amazon doesn't normally lag behind the market and I have had only good experiences with Amazon to date. I wish I knew what the holdup is.
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I have searched and searched for upgrades for this model and have yet to find anything...
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I take the discontinuing of this model as a BIG warning sign. Why would they ever want to discontinue something that was selling and had positive reviews?? Let's hope none of the current ones have any issues with spontaneous combustion or the like! Of course I'm just kidding, but I still don't understand why they would discontinue it while it's successor is still so many months out.
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I am intrigued .. but will definitely have to wait until it comes down in price.. and maybe a more improved model will already be in the works.. just like a computer ... this one may be already out of date.. the new and improved model coming out at a later time... which means ... these first ones will drop in price.... hmmmmm you never know ... they do sound like a lot of fun ...!!
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Greg: I just got a reply from Amazon customer service. They confirmed that it is not yet released, and did not know when it would be released. I have an email in to HP customer service and will let you know what I hear!
48790
I am going to wait. Had the TF201, but sent back because of the GPS issue. The two factors making me wait are the lack of Gorilla Glass and the brightness of the display (not the resolution). I plan on using it heavily outside, and both of these can make a significant difference when out of doors.
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I bought one too. incredibly dissapointed. so slow, cant even go online with it. type a letteer and you might see it appear on screen in about 15 seconds. cant return it, tho :(
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Beware the Sony "cineframe" options -- they look terrible. I have a Sony HC3 and while it's a fine little camera in 1080i 60i mode, the pseudo-24p stuff looks awful. The HV20 promises TRUE 24fps recording, plus a cinematic gamma curve, plus OIS, plus manual audio level controls, plus better lowlight performance. I wasn't even planning on buying a new camera, but I'm buying an HV20. At $1099, it's a great deal!
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Since it's such a new model, I doubt you'll find it on sale right now. I did find a site that has it in stock, but I'm not familiar with the company myself. Here's the link if you want to check it out:http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=A06FA5
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Been using a N52 for years, but it's on its last legs. Still not released. I've been looking forward to this for a while, but was hoping it'd be out by X-mas. :(
1137718
Just in response to Erik's comment, I'd take it a step further and say the technology in the TF700 was already outdated the second it was released (based on how terrible its performance was right off the bat).
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Hi CSC. I have the same question, I am about to upgrade to a DH70 from an H31. Did you ever get a reply on the comparison? Or did you buy the HD70 and found out yourself?