60-120hz I am actively seeking Samsung's new 25,000:1, 120 hz 40" LCD and will then be looking for a samsung blu-ray to go with it since I believe blu-ray will win out over hd-dvd. My question is, I noticed that this blu-ray runs off 60 hz, so what does that do to people with 120? Is there a down convert, if so how does that affect the picture? Are there 120hz blu-rays? Should I just wait? 60-120hz I am actively seeking Samsung's new 25,000:1, 120 hz 40" LCD and will then be looking for a samsung blu-ray to go with it since I believe blu-ray will win out over hd-dvd. My... » Read More 60-120hz I am actively seeking Samsung's new 25,000:1, 120 hz 40" LCD and will then be looking for a samsung blu-ray to go with it since I believe blu-ray will win out over hd-dvd. My question is, I noticed that this blu-ray runs off 60 hz, so what does that do to people with 120? Is there a down convert, if so how does that affect the picture? Are there 120hz blu-rays? Should I just wait? « Show Less
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I just turned my blu ray player from 60Hz to 24Hz and the motion is more smooth in 3d surprisingly. Without this setting the motion was very blur and uneasy on eyes. My TV is 120Hz, it is LG 47LW5300 and the blu ray player is LG BD645. Thanks Jaeckel, I was thinking of returning the tv and player untill I set this option.
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Most Blu-ray players allow you to select either 24fps (same rate that movies are filmed) or 60fps (frames per second) outputs. The TV will convert this output to 120hz internally. If the TV is capable of accepting the 24fps output, it should have an excellent image quality. There are some reviews from some owners of this TV that suggest that it does accept 24fps. Of course, even if you use the 60 fps output you will only see the difference on moving objects and only then if you really look carefully.
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HDMI 1.3- No. That is a feature of the step up 89 series, not 87 series. See 6189s. The caveat here is that 1.3 has become standard for a while now and Samsung's parts bin may contain all 1.3 parts by now. So the 87s MIGHT be 1.3 now, by default. Certainly would not count on it. 24p- yes, they can and do display 24 fps. HOWEVER they will only do this if the player can "force" 24 fps. The PS3 and some Panasonic bluray's can do this. Don't know about the xbox 360. In PS3, you have to change 24p setting from "automatic" to "on" in order to force it to tv. 120hz- sorta. It is listed as doing 120hz. But this is because it is wobulated, as are all single chip DLP sets (which is all of them). In reality, the DLP chip is not 1080p, it has to quickly fill in and effectively double the pixels in order to produce a 1080 image. The 120hz helps to accomplish this even faster. Also these sets are 3D capable which is the true reason they have 120hz. I say true reason because LCD's offered this higher refresh rate to help combat motion blur, or "smooth" the picture with their 4-8ms response time. DLP response time is about 15ms, IIRC. But in DLP's case that's "microseconds" not "milliseconds"- it is light years faster than any LCD panel and so 120hz is not really needed with DLP tech- motion blur was never a problem. It's used for 3D (and 24p) capability. The newer models coming in April are supposedly 240hz. Hope this helps
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Good info, totally makes sense. Im excited for the 3D and all that but I am also looking forward to the 240Hz in 24" and at the price as there is currently nothing like that now. Will probabaly have to use a different Blu-Ray player for movies to have that smooth look to them as I don't think the PS3 can play movies past 60Hz. Still curious how it looks. I personally like smaller HD screens and am curious how it will look.
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I'm also trying to decide between the two. Only difference seems to be that the 52b750 is 240hz instead of 120hz for the 55b650. I think that has something to do with response time. Hoping that we can get responses indicating whether or not the average person can notice the difference when watching tv. I would rather spend an extra $100 for a larger tv but wonder if I would be missing out on a better picture with the 240hz.
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I can only comment on the Sanyo brand. Prior to purchasing this TV I had purchased a 55" Sanyo 240hz 6mo prior. I did notice a slight difference from the two. It was almost like motion sickness, not as bad as when I first went from 120hz to 240hz. My first big TV was a Toshiba and it lasted for over 10yrs, and was still working when I gave it to a friend. So far I love this TV and I would recommend buying it. But beware of the Toshiba blu-Ray 3D DVD, that was a P.O.S. I ended up breaking it into little small pieces just to get my DVD out of it. I had problems with it 30 days after purchase and it got worse. I can only comment on the Sanyo brand. Prior to purchasing this TV I had purchased a 55" Sanyo 240hz 6mo prior. I did notice a slight difference from the two. It was almost like motion sickness, not as bad as when I first went from 120hz to 240hz. My first big TV was a Toshiba and it lasted for over 10yrs, and was still working when I gave it to a friend. So far I love this TV and I would recommend buying it. But beware of the Toshiba blu-Ray 3D DVD, that was a P.O.S. I ended up breaking it into little small pieces just to get my DVD out of it. I had problems with it 30 days after... » Read More I can only comment on the Sanyo brand. Prior to purchasing this TV I had purchased a 55" Sanyo 240hz 6mo prior. I did notice a slight difference from the two. It was almost like motion sickness, not as bad as when I first went from 120hz to 240hz. My first big TV was a Toshiba and it lasted for over 10yrs, and was still working when I gave it to a friend. So far I love this TV and I would recommend buying it. But beware of the Toshiba blu-Ray 3D DVD, that was a P.O.S. I ended up breaking it into little small pieces just to get my DVD out of it. I had problems with it 30 days after purchase and it got worse. « Show Less
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I'm about to order this TV, but I'm getting confused! So, to see less blurring while watching action sports, I have to switch the TV to "movie" option to activate the 120hz? I've owned the 40" 550 model for two days, and it's going back. I watched one period of hockey yesterday and got a headache from the blurring. But does the 120hz noticeably change that while watching sports??? Seems like lots people are on both sides of the fence on that issue, and I'd hate to spend $300 more for this TV and have basically the same problem (I realize that all LCDs have this issue to some extent). Thanks for the input! I'm about to order this TV, but I'm getting confused! So, to see less blurring while watching action sports, I have to switch the TV to "movie" option to activate the 120hz? I've owned the 40" 550 model for two days, and it's going back. I watched one period of hockey yesterday and got a headache from the blurring. But does the 120hz noticeably change that while watching sports??? Seems like lots people are on both sides of the fence on that issue, and I'd hate to spend $300 more for this TV and have basically the same problem (I realize that all LCDs have this issue to some... » Read More I'm about to order this TV, but I'm getting confused! So, to see less blurring while watching action sports, I have to switch the TV to "movie" option to activate the 120hz? I've owned the 40" 550 model for two days, and it's going back. I watched one period of hockey yesterday and got a headache from the blurring. But does the 120hz noticeably change that while watching sports??? Seems like lots people are on both sides of the fence on that issue, and I'd hate to spend $300 more for this TV and have basically the same problem (I realize that all LCDs have this issue to some extent). Thanks for the input! « Show Less
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I believe its a 60 refresh rate. I have had this tv for over 2 years now and not one problem. I would recomend it. Itd better picture than a new samsung i recently bought.
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Then what does it mean when a blu-ray player is input through HDMI and it says 24Hz? Then when I hooked the same BD player through my receiver (new Pioneer Elite) it's back to 60Hz. Never have seen 120 Hz.
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Good question. One thing you might want to consider is what I just found out yesterday... a salesman showed me what happens when you watch a standard def. digital broadcast on a top-of-the-line Sony LCD with 120hz compared with the Samsung 40A650. Wow, what a difference! Nobody ever mentions what standard def. looks like on these 1080p LCD sets. The Sony was terrible, the Samsung was fine. It's the pixelation of edges during movement problem. I guess the 120hz motion control only works in HD mode on most sets (that's what the saleman said), while Samsung's works in standard mode, too. So, go to a store that will show you what the picture looks like on the 46A550 in standard def mode. I would also want to compare the contrast ratio between the 2 sets, as the 40A650's is pretty hard to beat.
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NO! 120Hz is a marketing gimmick! Don't fall for it because no one watches movies like that! That fps is meant for recorded video, NOT MOVIES! Put it this way, do movies in theatres appear 120FPS? No. All movies are displayed in 24FPS as they were meant to be. This TV will put ANY other HDTV to shame!!!EDIT: Okay, okay... I'll just add that I THINK 120Hz is a "gimmick". Others find it very useful and engaging.
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It's not the Panasonic, it's the Samsung. Many people go out and buy these LCD's with 120 refresh rates only to find themselves with the same thing you are talking about a nearly "too clear" or "soap opera" looking picture. Go out and read the reviews for the 120 refresh sets. Many people find themselves preferring a little extra judder from the 60 refresh than the picture being almost too realistic as you stated; others say it's worth the trade off, it all personal perference. I know for sure the Samsung LCD 600 series are 120 refresh for sure. Being you feed it such a nice clean 1080P signal with the panny and you get the result. Bottom line is that effect is not from your DVD player.
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I bought this tv last week and picked up an HDMI cable as well. For some reason I can't get the TV to show videos at 120hz. Does anyone know if the HDMI cable influences that or how to switch it on the TV?
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I had the same concerns as you regrading Hz. There is a CONSIDERABLE difference that you can notice between 60Hz and 120HZ when watching fast paced movies (fast n furious) or sports. However, there is less of a difference when you move from 120Hz to 240Hz. I've read that the 650B series/model is the same as the 850A series, except the 850A is just somewhat slimmer/thinner. I opt'ed for the 750B because I got a great price from SEARS ($1999.00) and I compared it to Sony's XBR9 series and I liked the Sammy better. Also, I was reading the blogs and although the 850A is a great TV, the majority of comments stated the 750 is the way to go. So you are aware, BB was selling the 850A for $1899.00 on their web-site. I had the same concerns as you regrading Hz. There is a CONSIDERABLE difference that you can notice between 60Hz and 120HZ when watching fast paced movies (fast n furious) or sports. However, there is less of a difference when you move from 120Hz to 240Hz. I've read that the 650B series/model is the same as the 850A series, except the 850A is just somewhat slimmer/thinner. I opt'ed for the 750B because I got a great price from SEARS ($1999.00) and I compared it to Sony's XBR9 series and I liked the Sammy better. Also, I was reading the blogs and although the 850A is a great TV,... » Read More I had the same concerns as you regrading Hz. There is a CONSIDERABLE difference that you can notice between 60Hz and 120HZ when watching fast paced movies (fast n furious) or sports. However, there is less of a difference when you move from 120Hz to 240Hz. I've read that the 650B series/model is the same as the 850A series, except the 850A is just somewhat slimmer/thinner. I opt'ed for the 750B because I got a great price from SEARS ($1999.00) and I compared it to Sony's XBR9 series and I liked the Sammy better. Also, I was reading the blogs and although the 850A is a great TV, the majority of comments stated the 750 is the way to go. So you are aware, BB was selling the 850A for $1899.00 on their web-site. « Show Less
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Hi Mike, Good question, I'll give you my "best guess" answer. I have had this great TV since April and searched the web for the same information. First, its not bad right out of the box. Second, seems the recommended settings vary for 2D and 3D, ambient light conditions and to some degree the signal source each of which can ALSO have a range of settings. I have left the settings on the signal source devices at default levels and made the suggested adjustments on the TV. I have the Spears & Munsil HD Benchmark Blu-ray DVD but have not used it with this TV, as yet. I have used the settings found at http://www.soundandvision.com/content/samsung-un75es9000-3d-lcd-hdtv-settings and just tweaked them a little bit for personal taste. Good place to start. Please advise if you find another source for useful settings. It's a great 2D TV and paired with a good 3D player, it does a good job of 3D as well, especially with little ambient light. Professional calibration is always an option as well. Best Regards, Marc
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It is 60 hz but many Samsungs including this one have a internal upgrade making the TV have 120 HZ ability.
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the b640 has most of the specs of the b630, but with the glossy finish of the b650. I am a fan of the 120hz and you notices the different with your blu-ray player or PS3 and the dead HD-DVD. It makes things pop-out a little and look a little unatural, but is like 3D on some movies. When you turn it way too high you get the halo effect and some blocking on fast scenes. Most people will buy a blu-ray player sooner or later so I say just go with the 120hz for the future. If you turn it off it is just like watching the b550. Most antenna broadcast will not pop out as much, since the source is not as good.
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120hz standard, but 240hz enhanced. Excellent picture, I leave it at 120hz for most viewing; I have not found a need to switch to 240hz. Granted, I did check it out at 240 but find 120 is better for regular shows/movies. Haven't watched football yet... we'll see ;-)