For general baking/cooking purposes, is the pastry or AP whole wheat flour better? Would they both mix well with a bread flour to make bread?
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The pastry flour is great for baking. I use it in place of AP flour in cookies, cakes, crackers, etc and it is wonderful. Whole wheat AP flour made baked goods a bit dense and heavy for my liking. I haven't used it for making bread so I can't give any input there. I use Great River whole wheat bread flour and oat flour with great results. No bricks of bread since I switched a couple years ago. I have yet to use one of their flours that I wasn't happy with. I hope I was able to help some! :-)Edited to say: I had never thought of mixing the pastry flour in with my bread flour. I think that might help make a lighter bread so I may experiment with that. Thanks for the idea! The pastry flour is great for baking. I use it in place of AP flour in cookies, cakes, crackers, etc and it is wonderful. Whole wheat AP flour made baked goods a bit dense and heavy for my liking. I haven't used it for making bread so I can't give any input there. I use Great River whole wheat bread flour and oat flour with great results. No bricks of bread since I switched a couple years ago. I have yet to use one of their flours that I wasn't happy with. I hope I was able to help some! :-)Edited to say: I had never thought of mixing the pastry flour in with my bread flour. I... » Read More The pastry flour is great for baking. I use it in place of AP flour in cookies, cakes, crackers, etc and it is wonderful. Whole wheat AP flour made baked goods a bit dense and heavy for my liking. I haven't used it for making bread so I can't give any input there. I use Great River whole wheat bread flour and oat flour with great results. No bricks of bread since I switched a couple years ago. I have yet to use one of their flours that I wasn't happy with. I hope I was able to help some! :-)Edited to say: I had never thought of mixing the pastry flour in with my bread flour. I think that might help make a lighter bread so I may experiment with that. Thanks for the idea! « Show Less
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Sorry, I am not well versed on flours as I am just learning myself! Using different flours, mixing etc to try for cookies and breads.
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Wheat Gluten is used when making bread using whole wheat flour. It is used in addition to the flour. If you made banana bread using only wheat gluten, then yes, you probably need to toss the banana bread. Wheat Gluten is not flour.
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I like the taste and texture better than red whole wheat flour. It will make a good bread alone, but I prefer to mix it about half and half with a white bread or all purpose flour to get a lighter texture. I use a honey-wheat recipe and substitute the seven grain for whole wheat.
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We don't add the wheat gluten to the flour when making pizza dough.That is what we bought it for. But we have been making subway rolls and do add the wheat gluten to them.Hope this helps. Have not made bread with it. It is more of a bread flour than an all purpose flour.
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It is finer, but not less nutritious. All Purpose is used (or, at least *we* use it for...) Pie dough, Pizza Dough and everything other then bread. You can use it to substitute a little bit of bread flour when you are low, as well. Alone, it doesn't make a good loaf of bread, it is more for the things other then bread, like pastries. Essentially they are both Whole Wheat (Whole "White" Wheat might be different or even have whitening agents in them, like having been bleached), they just serve different purposes.
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OK, now I've made the 100% whole wheat. I added two tablespoons of vital wheat gluten and used 2 tablespoons of butter instead of the 1 1/2 tablespoons in the recipe. I used the whole wheat sandwich mode. It turned out really well.
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I would try the recipe with half all-purpose, except I use unbleached white and do the other half with a whole wheat flour and see how it turns out. Good Luck!!
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I like the bread mix for different types of yeast breads, pizza crust etc. I use the pancake mix for light breads and pancakes of course. They each bake to a different texture.
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I make sandwich bread with this flour every week for my husband's lunches and it works better than any other flour I have tried. I also make pizza crusts, another yeast based product.
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I have a WonderMill grain mill and fresh mill Kamut brand wheat as well as a Hard White Spring wheat called "Prairie Gold" Both are marvelous grains for whole wheat flour. I make 100% all the time and works great. PERIOD!! I add 1 Tbs of vital wheat gluten just to make sure, as well as 1/8 tsp of Ascorbic acid (a yeast conditioner). I also use ingredients for Large loafs but set the setting for sandwich and works fine.
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I don`t mix the flour with all purpose flour in order to rise bread; my bread turns out not high, but very nutritional. You can mix the flour with anything .Good luck!
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I bake a lot pastries, cheese pies, cupcakes, soft cakes with nuts and fruit and it is really remarkable flour. However i have not baked a bread. This one is very soft flour so really not sure. I see people use another one for bread thats sold in 25pound bag but is whole wheat, brand Great River Organic Milling and i am planing to order the same but for bread once i buy the bread machine :) hope this helps
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There is one recipe for 100% whole wheat flour (Honey Whole Wheat Bread 1 1/2 lb. loaf). It also calls for a small amount of gluten flour and powdered milk. I have used several other bread cookbook recipes that use a combination of wheat and bread flour and they have turned out well. This is my 3rd bread machine and this is the only one that I have not had regular problems with bread falling once it goes into the bake cycle. I've had slight falling with this machine 2-3 times and it's when I'm trying a new recipe I've never made before. I've been enjoying this machine more than any of the other brands. Hope this helps. There is one recipe for 100% whole wheat flour (Honey Whole Wheat Bread 1 1/2 lb. loaf). It also calls for a small amount of gluten flour and powdered milk. I have used several other bread cookbook recipes that use a combination of wheat and bread flour and they have turned out well. This is my 3rd bread machine and this is the only one that I have not had regular problems with bread falling once it goes into the bake cycle. I've had slight falling with this machine 2-3 times and it's when I'm trying a new recipe I've never made before. I've been enjoying this machine more than any of the... » Read More There is one recipe for 100% whole wheat flour (Honey Whole Wheat Bread 1 1/2 lb. loaf). It also calls for a small amount of gluten flour and powdered milk. I have used several other bread cookbook recipes that use a combination of wheat and bread flour and they have turned out well. This is my 3rd bread machine and this is the only one that I have not had regular problems with bread falling once it goes into the bake cycle. I've had slight falling with this machine 2-3 times and it's when I'm trying a new recipe I've never made before. I've been enjoying this machine more than any of the other brands. Hope this helps. « Show Less
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I made both whole wheat, and 70% wholewheat. Both great but I find that 100% is better made with a 1.5 tablespoons of sugar instead of molasses. Less dense and sticky. I also made the "Seven Grain' loaf using '10 grain cereal" - great but next time I shall use sugar instead of the molasses.
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I use saf-instant for everything. I don't think there would be a difference in the two however. I like the saf instant because I can buy it in 1 pound bags for $5 or $6 which makes it much cheaper than the strips of three envelopes. I keep it in the freezer in a lock n lock container, & it always works as expected. The most information you can find on one site for baking information is King Arthur Flour website. I originally found this yeast on their site, but now buy it through Amazon because we have Amazon Prime. Good luck with your baking!
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Angel: New Breadman Ultimate Plus:Purchased new machine on Amazon, baked with reg flour and came out great, twice tried Red Mill gluten free bread mix following the instuctions exactly but both came out larger than 1/1/2 lb and raw in the center of the loaf. Anyone have any suggestions?
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I've made bread and pancakes and the pancakes are terrific but I need more Vital Wheat Gluten in my bread recipe.This flour should last me a long time but I'll reorder more when I'm out. It's a great flour to keep in your pantry for those recipes you want to kick start.