XV-21 vs XV-11 Has anyone upgraded? I currently have an XV-11 that is being returned due to defective navigation. Before that though I loved the unit, and in replacing it I'm wondering if its worth the upgrade? From reading the reviews, it sounds like XV-21 one may have a shorter battery life? My current neato is able to complete my apartment in one charge, but its ability to find its base at the end is hit or miss. This is my fault because I like to keep it tucked away in the corner. If the XV-21 requires a recharge in the middle of the cleaning, that may present a difficulty for me. XV-21 vs XV-11 Has anyone upgraded? I currently have an XV-11 that is being returned due to defective navigation. Before that though I loved the unit, and in replacing it I'm wondering if its... » Read More XV-21 vs XV-11 Has anyone upgraded? I currently have an XV-11 that is being returned due to defective navigation. Before that though I loved the unit, and in replacing it I'm wondering if its worth the upgrade? From reading the reviews, it sounds like XV-21 one may have a shorter battery life? My current neato is able to complete my apartment in one charge, but its ability to find its base at the end is hit or miss. This is my fault because I like to keep it tucked away in the corner. If the XV-21 requires a recharge in the middle of the cleaning, that may present a difficulty for me. « Show Less
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What's funny is that what the Neato rep. said isn't even necessarily true in all cases. Early tear-downs of the latest XV-21's that were made with the latest manufacturing process have shown differences from the XV-11's that originally launched. Things like improved wheel spring designs, upgraded body moldings and some very slight improvements in the logic board design of the system. None of these are anything they would document but it's stuff that's been appearing in the latest robots. I think they're definitely ironing out the manufacturing issues that were occurring with the original unit's that were shipped out. What's funny is that what the Neato rep. said isn't even necessarily true in all cases. Early tear-downs of the latest XV-21's that were made with the latest manufacturing process have shown differences from the XV-11's that originally launched. Things like improved wheel spring designs, upgraded body moldings and some very slight improvements in the logic board design of the system. None of these are anything they would document but it's stuff that's been appearing in the latest robots. I think they're definitely ironing out the manufacturing issues that were occurring with the original... » Read More What's funny is that what the Neato rep. said isn't even necessarily true in all cases. Early tear-downs of the latest XV-21's that were made with the latest manufacturing process have shown differences from the XV-11's that originally launched. Things like improved wheel spring designs, upgraded body moldings and some very slight improvements in the logic board design of the system. None of these are anything they would document but it's stuff that's been appearing in the latest robots. I think they're definitely ironing out the manufacturing issues that were occurring with the original unit's that were shipped out. « Show Less
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We have been very happy with the unit and are considering getting another one. I haven't used other makes/models so I can't give you a comparison.
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Where do I check to tell if I have a rev21 board or the ev15 board?I purchased the 37AV and it says WNDR37AV-Rev1 on the box. I have not even checked to see what the actual unit has labeled on it but I will tonight. Funny, when I registered it my only choice by product number was WNDR3700. I have had only one problem with it not working correctly but that seems to be attributed to my modem and not the router.I really do not want to have to return it but will not hesitate if I have the lessor quality board. Thanks.
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Please post a link if you know this specific model is on sale somewhere! :) I've seen the lesser versions (1810TZ and 1410) on sale and people confuse them with the 1810T, but this is the specific one I'm hoping to buy ASAP!
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New models with slightly less power. There both in the website catalogue - for now. You can compare specs. The new model has the advantage of having fresher batteries.
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I just opened the box and saw that it's a V1. I fully expected that the V1 stock had run out from Netgear by now and they would be refurbishing V2's only. But this DealFisher must still have some old V1's to move out. So it is luck of the draw. I'm debating about keeping since that price is so low compared to new V2. And eventually, I'll upgrade one of these to a Nighthawk R6 or something that really has lot more power. It's only the farthest corner of my house that could use the Beamforming benefit. Also, I have no need of the USB 3.0 since I don't attach a hard drive or printer to these routers. I just opened the box and saw that it's a V1. I fully expected that the V1 stock had run out from Netgear by now and they would be refurbishing V2's only. But this DealFisher must still have some old V1's to move out. So it is luck of the draw. I'm debating about keeping since that price is so low compared to new V2. And eventually, I'll upgrade one of these to a Nighthawk R6 or something that really has lot more power. It's only the farthest corner of my house that could use the Beamforming benefit. Also, I have no need of the USB 3.0 since I don't attach a hard drive or printer to these... » Read More I just opened the box and saw that it's a V1. I fully expected that the V1 stock had run out from Netgear by now and they would be refurbishing V2's only. But this DealFisher must still have some old V1's to move out. So it is luck of the draw. I'm debating about keeping since that price is so low compared to new V2. And eventually, I'll upgrade one of these to a Nighthawk R6 or something that really has lot more power. It's only the farthest corner of my house that could use the Beamforming benefit. Also, I have no need of the USB 3.0 since I don't attach a hard drive or printer to these routers. « Show Less
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The max if given a choice. Escort will likely support it better since it's their newest product. It had a few bugs when introduced, and they may have fixed them by now. I own both, but put the max on the shelf because I didn't have time to do the upgrades to fix the minor stuff that I had problems with. Range was same for. Oth but red light camera locations came up quicker with ix
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There is no difference other than color amongst any of the robots, with the exception of the brush and filter on the new XV-21. Per the manufacturer, the only other difference is color. The firmware could also be different, but that can be updated for free.
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If you mean the old model is more expensive, I believe 1.) it is harder to find for sale 2.) There are a lot of notes indicating the older model may have come from a time when the quality of the units were actually better. 3.) I am going to purchase an older model because I do not need high resolution, I want quality, and I am connecting to XP.
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Oh shoot, i meant to post another question, not answer yours, sorry. But i can tell you it is the right one.I don't have cut and paste ability. My question:I have the xv-21 and love it...loved the brush to death in about a year with heavy use... I thought a spare brush came with the robot in original shipment, but can't find it. Am I mistaken? I need to buy this soon if so. In fact, since I'll need another in future I might as all buy it now in case noone answers this in time.
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Check for a warranty, if you would be organized enough to claim on it. FWIW, we had extremely good service out of the ones we bought years and years ago. Not sure if manufacturing has changed. My child was a toddler when we bought them, and he's almost out of the teen years old now. A few times through all those years, we've noticed a few bugs and unplugged it and plugged it in and it's started working again; or plugged it in for a couple of weeks in a different area of this house when I started seeing a few bugs in far flung areas. (My limit is 3 bugs before I react.) We JUST ordered a replacement for one unit. I started seeing a few bugs this Summer. The lights on the unit were not acting as they had in the past. (There's a pattern to the lights if you watch it.) This time, unplugging it did not reset it -- not sure if it finally failed or if that unit got hit by lightning. This time, the electronics guy here said it had really failed. Of course, with any electronics, no telling if the newer made units are manufactured elsewhere or with different components. So I can't predict quality of the newer units. It's worth a try imo because two of these units have kept my large house bug-free (other than spiders in the ceiling and ants coming in the back door), never sprayed any insecticides, for... 16 - 18 yrs? I hope the new units give as good service! (Said engineer is going to open the failed unit up and see if it's simply a capacitor or something repairable when he gets time. Just curiosity. The schematics are available online now if you search for the patent. But we just went ahead and bought a new unit. )
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Just spent a few hours figuring this out. The A and VT refer to two different type of video card setups. The VT is the Nvidia cards with the GraphiX Boost switchable graphics. This means that there are actually 2 video cards in that model. The idea is you only use the more powerful board when using intensive graphics like in gaming, which helps save battery life. If having better battery life is important you you, the VT would be best, but it will raise the price a good bit. The A is a single integrated videoboard, so is more ecomical. The -a2, -c1, x5 parts I haven't figured out 100%, but seems to be things like case color, OS, battery size or something else like that. Be aware some come with higher capacity batteries. The speakers are on the bottom of the laptop, so it might sound best if on a hard surface, but I haven't tested that & am just guessing there. Hope this helps!!
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gonzo said on December 22, 2014where do i get the upgraded one thanks againN. W. Misner said on December 22, 2014 | EditThe upgrade involves connecting to 18650 together in series soldering the connectors from the batteries that came with the chopper on these batteries that have been assembled together. Batteries can be purchased at the following website, http://www.all-battery.com/tenergyli-ion1865037v2600mahrechargeablebattery-30005.aspx.Note: I've built one battery pack but haven't tried it yet due to bad weather. But I've been told they work much better, good luck. gonzo said on December 22, 2014where do i get the upgraded one thanks againN. W. Misner said on December 22, 2014 | EditThe upgrade involves connecting to 18650 together in series soldering the connectors from the batteries that came with the chopper on these batteries that have been assembled together. Batteries can be purchased at the following website, http://www.all-battery.com/tenergyli-ion1865037v2600mahrechargeablebattery-30005.aspx.Note: I've built one battery pack but haven't tried it yet due to bad weather. But I've been told they work much... » Read More gonzo said on December 22, 2014where do i get the upgraded one thanks againN. W. Misner said on December 22, 2014 | EditThe upgrade involves connecting to 18650 together in series soldering the connectors from the batteries that came with the chopper on these batteries that have been assembled together. Batteries can be purchased at the following website, http://www.all-battery.com/tenergyli-ion1865037v2600mahrechargeablebattery-30005.aspx.Note: I've built one battery pack but haven't tried it yet due to bad weather. But I've been told they work much better, good luck. « Show Less
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I received the same message "Press ok to restart my battery" on a new Neato XV-11. That didn't work. Went to Neato's web page and looked in manual--did every thing they suggested, even inspecting the battery to see if it had any disconnects. Nothing worked. After 4 days of working with the Neato, I was so disgusted with it that I returned it to the dealer. Thank goodness they refunded my money.
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It is my understanding that version 2 is full of bugs still that needs to be worked out and the only place where you could download it is in Japan. So until they work out all the kinks with V2 I'd stay with the original version. If and when it's offered here in the US would be the only time it's safe and worthwhile to install.
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The XV-21 is better than the Signature. The XV-21 has the latest brush/wiper technology as well as the HEPA air filter. The Signature has the HEPA but not the wiper technology. Right now, its the best buy in NEATO's lineup as its 36% off. The Signature Pro is the same as the XV-21 but comes with an extra spare filter, but you lose the large discount in the price.
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I am really wanting this unit, but worried about the "refurb/new" thing ... should I be concerned? were you guys able to update maps on ALL those that suspected "used"? ... should I go ahead and get it ??