Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st... » Read More Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? « Show Less
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I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and... » Read More I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. « Show Less
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Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch. Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch.
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No, the battery life is only short when your messing around on the menu, but when your listening to music and NOTHING else, it's a whole different story. One time I was listening to music at night, fell asleep, woke up in the morning and there was only HALF the batttery life. It was fully charged at night, so there is about 20 hr. of music listening time, or whatever you call it. Anywho, there's to many kids on Amazon that treat there things poorly, get on the computer, and type a bad review about it. I think the new ipod nano is awesome and has good battery life.
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fannie lou, sounds like you got a lemon. I'd return if it was me. And regardless would return it since you already have docking systems. The charging issue is a known one, if you have older docking systems, it may likely not work. New docking systems will most likely work. That does suck. My attitude is that the Nano 4th gen is great for first time ipod users like myself (who will buy new docking stations anyway), not so good for existing users.
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I received a 4th Generation for Christmas and have no trouble with batterylife. I often listen to audiobooks as well as listening at work. I don't have a charging station at work and can usually go at least 2 full working days (8 hour days) without charging.
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I'll give that a shot. I've noticed that they only claim to support the 5th gen and newer Nano, as well as the iPhone/iTouch. I was using a 4th gen Nano and an old classic (at that time just called the iPod). Now I have a 5th gen Nano, and it seems to work? I'll report back after more testing.
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I just bought the Nano and it's way smaller than the Shuffle is. I used my nephew's IPOD and that's what made me want one, but i LOVE the Nano because of the size. Some of it wasn't intuitive for me, but my husband picked it up and had no problems with it. Once I saw how to do a couple basic things on it, I was set to go and didn't need any help at all. He thought that it would be good to have the screen and at first I didn't care, but now that I've used it, I can see why you want it. After using both, I'd have to go Creative Labs all the way.
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Actually if you look at that same specs page you'll see it mentions a dock adapter coming in the box so it shouldn't be a problem either way. For me the ipod touch is everything that I was looking for. Sure it could have been given a power hungry disk drive with more capacity, but flash is the better option hands down. Lower energy consumption with that nice slim form factor and better battery life for the size (look at specs on the classic 160 and you'll see the difference). I don't know why you would need 16gb of music and videos on there at any one time anyways, manual sync people...use it
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Classic ipods have a hard drive which could theoretically, be damaged by running. Apple doesn't want to promote people running with their classics, so they haven't allowed the Nike plus system to work with one. I know...it sucks. I have a classic and I want this system badly, so I'm probably going to suck it up and buy an 8GB nano. It'll be less bulky to run with anyway.
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Any older dock will do fine with the ipod nano 16 gb. I have an ih4, which is really old, and it worked with my ipod nano 4th generation. If you upgrade to the ipod touch 2nd generation however, think about getting this model. Anyways, to make my point clear, ANY OLDER IPOD DOCK WILL WORK WITH THE IPOD NANO 4TH GENERATION. And to answer your primary question, yes, I would think that if an older ipod dock is compatible with my ipod nano 16 gb, yours would be fine with this dock. But check other sources before you get this model. I'm just guessing bassed on common sense and past experiences with ihome. Any older dock will do fine with the ipod nano 16 gb. I have an ih4, which is really old, and it worked with my ipod nano 4th generation. If you upgrade to the ipod touch 2nd generation however, think about getting this model. Anyways, to make my point clear, ANY OLDER IPOD DOCK WILL WORK WITH THE IPOD NANO 4TH GENERATION. And to answer your primary question, yes, I would think that if an older ipod dock is compatible with my ipod nano 16 gb, yours would be fine with this dock. But check other sources before you get this model. I'm just guessing bassed on common sense and past experiences... » Read More Any older dock will do fine with the ipod nano 16 gb. I have an ih4, which is really old, and it worked with my ipod nano 4th generation. If you upgrade to the ipod touch 2nd generation however, think about getting this model. Anyways, to make my point clear, ANY OLDER IPOD DOCK WILL WORK WITH THE IPOD NANO 4TH GENERATION. And to answer your primary question, yes, I would think that if an older ipod dock is compatible with my ipod nano 16 gb, yours would be fine with this dock. But check other sources before you get this model. I'm just guessing bassed on common sense and past experiences with ihome. « Show Less
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Jeremy, I would highly recommend getting a case and screen protector. The back of the iPod Touch is highly prone to scratches which make the device very unattractive and ultimately reduce its resale value as well. The screen is very scratch resistance, but it's still a good idea to cover it with a screen protector. Ideally, both should be on hand when he's ready to open the box. I would also recommend getting better earphones. The stock Apple earphones are pretty mediocre. Even the $10 Sony earphones I bought from WalMart give better performance than the stock Apple earphones. The dimensions of iPod Touch do differ from generation to generation. The 4th differs from previous gens, so cases meant for them won't work with it. All 4th gen. iPod Touches have the same dimensions, so a case meant for 8 GB unit will fit the 32 and 64 GB units as well.
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I have 70Gb on a 160Gb iPod, and all the CDs to match. The problem I have is that iTunes is the only practical way for the touch, so unless they allow Winamp to be used with the touch I will have to stick with my old style iPod. I hope the 4.0 operating system allows 3rd party software to work, if it does then there's a 128Gb iPod touch in my future, if it doesn't then there isn't. The touch actually has two memory devices, so a 128Gb chip allows a 256Gb touch or a 128Gb iPhone. The 64Gb parts are currently going in to mass production, which allows 128Gb touch and 64Gb phones.
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I have never owned an Ipod. I am looking for the best version that is specifically for music. I do not want a lot of bells and whistles, I want good sound and to know up front that it is fairly simple to load or download music. Does anyone have a preference for what version I should go for? No:Photos/games/other stuff.. just music.thanks.
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The nano's are more reliable than the Classic versions. My old 60GB failed 3 times over the course of 4yrs while my 2nd gen Nano has never failed and I've had it for 3yrs. I have this 120GB Classic now though and it's been going strong for 6 months.
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I've had my Zen Nano Plus for about a year now. It's been flawless. Use it working out, cutting grass, on vacation at the beach, etc. Lots of fun with no problems.So, I have to agree with all the other comments/posts here. I'm sure the Ipod is a great product too, but I think you get more bang for the buck with the Creative Zen Nano Plus. (And it's great that you don't have to load any software on your computer to use it. Just drag and drop.)
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My Ipod, is a Nano, so not so new, but I use it every day and have recently downloaded new tunes from itunes. It works great!
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haha go ahead and vent :)If I were you I would just wait. But dont buy the AppleCare for your 80gig. Just use it till it dies and isnt covered by warranty, and get whichever new one comes out. However next time check out macrumors and they have a buying guide, it shows you the past "update" history of the various mac products and gives you a small bit of advice on wether to buy or not. I'm going to stick with my 30gb for now too. Maybe give it to a family memeber later and buy a new one later :)
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I also have the 80Gb 5G and love it, but I'm afraid it's going to go on me any minute, because I've just flat out worn it out, not to mention it's FULL. Can someone confirm for me, though: is the 120Gb 6th generation or 7th generation? Can't find anything on the Apple site and Amazon says 6th, but I keep seeing references on Ebay, etc. that say 7th. The 6th generation came out in 9/07, and I want to be sure I'm getting the most recent model. Is there a 7th generation, or is it expected to come out maybe later this year? I can certainly wait! Thanks! zoomlens
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I'm in the market for a good portable unit for my fourth generation iPod Touch. I found these reviews/comparisons very helpful, except that I still haven't seen an answer to the compatibility question.J. Hansen
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Well, I figure that the current-gen 64GB Touch may probably last you at least through the next couple of years without any fear of obsolescence. I mean, the 32/64GB Touch has roughly the same hardware that the iPad has, iirc, or at least the same functionality, and that just came out last week or so, so...you're probably safe with the 64GB 3rd Gen, I have a hunch.
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Thanks for the help. Just purchased the Nano Plus. At $65, can't go wrong. Can't wait for it to arrive.