can you put the empty tank in a ice/salt/water brine to get it super cold and wrap your filled tank with a heating pad on low to maximize the temperature differential? Does that get more propane into the smaller tank or does that just make the fill time shorter? can you put the empty tank in a ice/salt/water brine to get it super cold and wrap your filled tank with a heating pad on low to maximize the temperature differential? Does that get more propane... » Read More can you put the empty tank in a ice/salt/water brine to get it super cold and wrap your filled tank with a heating pad on low to maximize the temperature differential? Does that get more propane into the smaller tank or does that just make the fill time shorter? « Show Less
2075113
In fact, they recommend you freeze your small bottle to fill it more so you thoughts should result in a slight gain in pressure at fill and give you a small increase in volume..
1013436
I don't think I would, I put mine in the freezer for about 15 minutes, start filling, when the hissing noise stops put it back in the freezer for another 10 minutes and continue to fill it. You don't want to fill it any more than 2/3 to 3/4 full
2075114
i haven't tried I haven't had a problem I place the empty's in the freezer for 20 min or so and let the big tank sit in the sun hook it up flip upside down and open fills in 3 min or so
2075115
I had the small 1lb. bottle out in the 20 degree weather already and the 5gal. tank was in the back room of the heated shop which is about 68 degrees. Now if that isn't sufficient I don' know what is.
1974124
You can place some rocks around the heater but the grill (top vents) must be kept clear of rocks. You don't want to overheat the heater. Also the heater , if grill is blocked, won't warm up the water properly. The rocks might get more heat than the water. That defeats the purpose of the heater. I use this in a ten gallon tank for a turtle with the water level 1/3 of the height of the tank. If you have a larger tank or more water you will need more than one filter. If you want to hide the heater you could maybe put a thin flat rock along the side that will allow the heater to warm the water. Hope this helps. You can place some rocks around the heater but the grill (top vents) must be kept clear of rocks. You don't want to overheat the heater. Also the heater , if grill is blocked, won't warm up the water properly. The rocks might get more heat than the water. That defeats the purpose of the heater. I use this in a ten gallon tank for a turtle with the water level 1/3 of the height of the tank. If you have a larger tank or more water you will need more than one filter. If you want to hide the heater you could maybe put a thin flat rock along the side that will allow the heater to warm the water.... » Read More You can place some rocks around the heater but the grill (top vents) must be kept clear of rocks. You don't want to overheat the heater. Also the heater , if grill is blocked, won't warm up the water properly. The rocks might get more heat than the water. That defeats the purpose of the heater. I use this in a ten gallon tank for a turtle with the water level 1/3 of the height of the tank. If you have a larger tank or more water you will need more than one filter. If you want to hide the heater you could maybe put a thin flat rock along the side that will allow the heater to warm the water. Hope this helps. « Show Less
1666609
Only if you get the propane model (LP) If you hook propane to a gas model you will burn your houes down!!A small tank wont last to long I dont know how long.
802768
no.... it is a low heat to keep water from freezing....but will merely heat the air...and would not get too hot for the animals tongue on the empty surface..... i have one and do check constantly for filling as there will be evaporation in warmer atmospheres.
1960214
your gas tank should be filled after each use so there is no room for condensation or air. This product is to keep gas from souring when left for extended periods of time.Are you sure that condensation is your issue?
790472
The only problem I have had is if the heater is outside the water in it can freeze and ruin it, but if only the propane tank in in the cold it probably won't matter. But no way keep the heater with water in the tubes out in the freezing temperature. It does not hold water in a tank but it has tubes that are exposed to the heat as it works...they when full of water can not be exposed to freezes. As far as my experience. I have gone through 3 of them outside. Otherwise they work great.
197579
First thing is what size tank, and what size heater. If the heater is not large enough for the tank, it's not going to reach temp. If the tank is in a colder room, you may need a larger heater.
329764
I think it works fine. Put your empty 1# tank in the freezer for 24 hrs. Invert your 20# tank and connect the 1 # with the shnozzle. Open the 20# and let the lpg drain into the the 1#. Give it 5 minutes. I have not actually weighed the refilled can v. a full new can, but it feels just as full.
676862
I have filled mine with a mixture of water, salt, and rubbing alcohol. This way the water can't freeze all of the way and the ice is flexible. After use, I just put it back in the freezer for the next use. The freezing process doesn't seem to hurt the liner of the bag, because it has not leaked at all.
1523544
They recommend hot water, however, I have left it in before and it still cleans very well. The water would be cold of course but it is a spot cleaner so there is no way you can use up the tank every time and to me it was a huge waste of money to dump it. Good for them though because it would mean selling a ton of cleaning solution.
610254
I used it in my greenhouse during subzero temps and it works great until it runs out of propane. It has a healthy appetite so I would recommend a separate tank for it.
1227807
I'm sorry, but once we assembled ours, we threw them away. Just an FYI, we wanted a shorter heater on our deck, to heat the seating area. When we used it when it was tall, we couldn't feel the heat. I had the legs cut off, but the rubber feet into the shorter legs, and now it keeps us warm when we are seated. Obviously, the propane tank sits to one side, but we sure are warm!!
1481351
If your asking about the main tank you need to fill it with water softener salt. The tank will hold between 20 to 40 pounds of salt. That becomes the brine that cleans and charges the catalyst to soften the water. It's best to put the salt in first. Then the water will mix when the clean charge cycle runs and moves the brine through the catalyst chamber. I use the Morton system salt I buy at Home Depot.
1611693
Ohhhhhhh. I do this while it's DEFLATED! Thank you!!I wonder if it will sit low enough in the water. Well, we'll find out once this ice melts!Thanks again!
396474
I always fill mine to the fill line on the canister . When finished freezing it is full. Mine is a 5 quart . I must say that it takes a while to freeze. Can't say that it is worth what I paid for it. Just being honest.
1222191
There is a ice level control. The ice is made when ice level drops. Ice will melt and the water goes back into the tank. The ice is not super hard as in a refrigerator. It makes ice very fast and will keep up with most normal demand. You will have to add water every other day or so depending on how much you use. The water container holds about a gallon.
1801225
Propane drops in temp as it is disbursed not very scientific on my part, but we did come up with a solution. We bought a 6 foot cord and hook ours up,to a 5 gallon propane tank. Cheaper and works better