I need a pan like this for a sourdough bread, but you are not supposed to use metal for sourdough. I would love to have this pan and wonder if I can circumvent this issue with parchment paper? ...... Please advice anyone. Thanks. I need a pan like this for a sourdough bread, but you are not supposed to use metal for sourdough. I would love to have this pan and wonder if I can circumvent this issue with parchment paper?... » Read More I need a pan like this for a sourdough bread, but you are not supposed to use metal for sourdough. I would love to have this pan and wonder if I can circumvent this issue with parchment paper? ...... Please advice anyone. Thanks. « Show Less
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yes you can. I make a black bread and line the pan with parchment paper and it works
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I used to put a piece of parchment paper on top of and to the sides of regular bread dough in a Pullman pan, because I did not want to coat the sliding top with butter and flour (I didn't want butter leaking to the bottom of my oven) but completely lining a bread pan with parchment paper on the bottom and the sides looks like an awful hassle to me. My bread books say indeed that the sourdough starter should not come into contact with metal - but I guess it's alright when you're in the dough phase, that you can bake in a metal pan.
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these are coated with silicone so doesn't count, so it is not touching metal....I have used all kinds of pans for sour dough,,,but USA is ALWAYS the best no matter what you are baking!!
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I've been baking sourdough for more than 35 years. You can use metal pans to bake sourdough without any problem at all - and you don't even need to line it with parchment if you don't feel like it.
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I have been baking many sourdough breads using this pan, with kneading and rises done in a Zojirushi bread maker, and only the final rise in the pan. Michael Petrick is correct, this pan is coated with a layer of silicone, so the metal doesn't come into contact with the dough if maintained well (Don't use metal tools, wood or silicone scrapers etc. won't scratch the coating).
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You could use a glass bread pan to avoid metal, but there doesn't seem to be a glass Pullman pan.
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make sure your recipe fit the pan size - this is a normal sized bread pan so most bread recipes should work just fine - I suspect that your yeast isn't fresh or your not letting your doe rise long enough or in a warm enough location - your yeast is probably the issue here.
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Parchment paper sort of defeats the purpose of the pivotal "scraper" operation (it would be covered by the parchment). But, I suppose the pans could be used with the parchment like any other plain pie/cake pan. I've not done that, however, so I'm guessing.
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Did you ever find one? I am also trying to find the stainless steel bread pan. Thanks
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I'm not sure I can answer that question. It looks like it's a coated metal and it's heavier than aluminum would be. It works very well. It gives the bread a nice crust.
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I have not had a scratching and rusting issue but I would not use a metal knife to remove the buns. If sticking is a problem try using a plastic utensil. If you lightly grease the pan you shouldn't have a serious problem with your baked goods sticking to the pan. When using a dark pan I usually bake at a lower than recommended temperature to avoid over cooking the bottom and edges.
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This world is hilarious to me. This is just another example - many Bread Makers with shiny stainless steel exteriors, but none with stainless steel bread pans!!
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Using a Pullman pan can be a little tricky. The recipe has to be sized for the pan or it could start flowing up and out either while rising or while you are baking. After much trial and more error, I use the lid during the rise and leave the lid off for baking. I end up with a nice "store bought" sized loaf as the bread crowns over the top of the pan during baking.
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I made gluten free bread as well as bread with gluten. They both turned out great. .however the machine pan locked up and failed after just a few months and I ended up throwing the machine out and getting a different one. It turned out to be just about impossible to replace the pan.
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Actually, I used a regular hand mixer and baked it in a regular loaf pan. I didn't use a stand mixer, nor the bread machine. I might try the bread machine the next time, but my way was easier. Turned out great! Did that answer your question?
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Bread bakes differently due to so many factors, like humidity, elevation, starter or commercial yeast, I hesitate to recommend a recipe. You could check the Great River website, and do a small loaf by reducing the recipe, see how you like it. For where I live, I need to add at least 2 tablespoons of water to the recipe I frequently use, which is from the Tasajara Bread book, the basic recipe. Since the 7 Grain absorbs more water, you need to add some, whereas with standard bread flour, probably not. I have made many delicious loaves baked in an ordinary loaf pan with the 7 Grain blend, I think the flavor is very good, and I always toast my slice. Always. Also, the bread is better 24 hours after baking, the moisture averages out thru the loaf, I just wrap it in a kitchen towel for a day, and after that it's kept in a plastic bag. I only bake one loaf at a time, but I change seeds, dates, chunky ground nuts, or even herbs, depending on what sounds good. I plan to start using my own wild yeast starter, so that will take me out of the loaf pan and onto a baking stone or a baguette baker. I have all the flours made by Great River, they do rise differently, the 7 Grain is a little more dense of a loaf, but it's great to have access to organic flours, and home made bread is worth the time. Good luck, and don't worry if you have a few loaves in the beginning that aren't terrific, that happens, it's an art, takes a little practice.
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I use a bread machine and bread machine cookbook for my bread dough. If I make a 2 lb loaf recipe, it's a bit too much for this pan. A 1.5 lb loaf would be better suited.
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I've had similar issues with a completely different bread maker and I think it's just something you have to accept about bread machines. My mom suggested pouring at least some of the oil over the paddle posts *before* putting the paddles on to make them come out more easily. However, this means they'll still be in the bread.
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I have some USA bread pans, they are excellent. They have a special non stick coating so your bread product does not actually come in contact with metal, it is in contact with the coating.
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I have a few silicone pans and enjoy them very much. The larger and more rectangular the pan, the less it will hold it's shape when "loaded". My large loaf pan, for example, makes loaves that are slightly larger in the middle than on the ends. They're perfectly browned though, similar to what you'd expect from a dark colored metal baking pan. They do not seem to age, I hand wash with mild soapy water. The dessert bar pan is my go-to pan for preparing party treats. I use it for sweet (finger cakes and bars), savory (finger quiches), and even frozen (tom collins ice cubes) goods. I can't say it wouldn't stand up to machine washing, I just have so much anodized aluminum that I always have a few things that need a hand wash anyway. Hope that helps!
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I have never used it for baking breads or rolls, but I have made cakes in it. They turn out nice and moist. It has an oven setting on it, but I don't really know how you would use it to bake breads because I don't have the big cook book that goes with it. BUT i can tell you this much, I LOVE IT for everything else. I have had mine going on three years now and if it konked out tomorrow, I would have to get another one immediately!
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I use recipes from a bread maker recipe book, not a home made bread recipe that I have for making bread in the oven. It is important to follow it precisley in terms of putting the ingredients in the right order that it calls for. You can find nice bread machine recipe books on Amazon and also the one they give you with this purchase is nice. Hope this helps..