Those one way screws are easy to open, just press hard and open them, it dont look safe at all.?
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I didn't use the one way screws. I had access to the backside so I used carriage bolts. You could also use rivets.
990689
That all depends on the wood that you are running them in to and your pilot hole size. I had to grind them off when I wanted to move the lock in my installation. I could not turn the screws. However, on the new installation I just used long 10/32 machine screws with self locking nuts. You can turn the screw head all you want and the nut will just spin in place and never fall off unless you get inside to the locked area and hold the nut with something. That solves the security problem. The screws were very long 4 inch screws that were long enough to go through a 2 x 4 piece of wood. Got them at a surplus place. If going into metal, you won't have a problem finding long enough screws. That all depends on the wood that you are running them in to and your pilot hole size. I had to grind them off when I wanted to move the lock in my installation. I could not turn the screws. However, on the new installation I just used long 10/32 machine screws with self locking nuts. You can turn the screw head all you want and the nut will just spin in place and never fall off unless you get inside to the locked area and hold the nut with something. That solves the security problem. The screws were very long 4 inch screws that were long enough to go through a 2 x 4 piece of wood. Got them... » Read More That all depends on the wood that you are running them in to and your pilot hole size. I had to grind them off when I wanted to move the lock in my installation. I could not turn the screws. However, on the new installation I just used long 10/32 machine screws with self locking nuts. You can turn the screw head all you want and the nut will just spin in place and never fall off unless you get inside to the locked area and hold the nut with something. That solves the security problem. The screws were very long 4 inch screws that were long enough to go through a 2 x 4 piece of wood. Got them at a surplus place. If going into metal, you won't have a problem finding long enough screws. « Show Less
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I bought this but need to return it and it was never installed. I couldn't get the combo to work and then it jammed totally......
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That all depends on the wood that you are running them in to and your pilot hole size. I had to grind them off when I wanted to move the lock in my installation. I could not turn the screws. However, on the new installation I just used long 10/32 machine screws with self locking nuts. You can turn the screw head all you want and the nut will just spin in place and never fall off unless you get inside to the locked area and hold the nut with something. That solves the security problem. The screws were very long 4 inch screws that were long enough to go through a 2 x 4 piece of wood. Got them at a surplus place. If going into metal, you won't have a problem finding long enough screws.
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It was very easy I know that. My wife looked it up on youTube and said it looked rather complicated. I didn't bother to look and just did. But I have been working with my hands my entire life so it was a cake walk for me. She left and came back 5 minutes later and it was done. Not sure how it could be so difficult as it was very straight forward. I thin the only tool I used was a phillip's head screw driver. Wish I could tell you exactly , but I don't member the exact steps. I know that the one screw you remove is obvious, and I think at the top from the inside, but the bottom one is less obvious and you have to remove a screw that doesn't make sense when first looking at it. It was very easy I know that. My wife looked it up on youTube and said it looked rather complicated. I didn't bother to look and just did. But I have been working with my hands my entire life so it was a cake walk for me. She left and came back 5 minutes later and it was done. Not sure how it could be so difficult as it was very straight forward. I thin the only tool I used was a phillip's head screw driver. Wish I could tell you exactly , but I don't member the exact steps. I know that the one screw you remove is obvious, and I think at the top from the inside, but the bottom one is less... » Read More It was very easy I know that. My wife looked it up on youTube and said it looked rather complicated. I didn't bother to look and just did. But I have been working with my hands my entire life so it was a cake walk for me. She left and came back 5 minutes later and it was done. Not sure how it could be so difficult as it was very straight forward. I thin the only tool I used was a phillip's head screw driver. Wish I could tell you exactly , but I don't member the exact steps. I know that the one screw you remove is obvious, and I think at the top from the inside, but the bottom one is less obvious and you have to remove a screw that doesn't make sense when first looking at it. « Show Less
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They are not easy to open, and you can travel with it, but you do have to make sure they are securely snapped. I've almost lost a few things by not double checking.
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You must have a defective one..had no problem opening mine. Turn counterclockwise.
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I don't have mine open now, but recall that the secret was to remove more screws and wires, which I think allowed separating the desired section. I initially tried what looked like the easy way with just a few screws, but the opening was not large enough to take it out that way, because protruding parts prevented mine from sliding out. If that's not clear enough, I can open mine again to refresh my memory.
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With the right amount of force and tools, I'm sure someone could "pull/pry" open any gate. From what I can tell from my install, I'd damage my gate before the opener gives. FYI, the opener contains a feature that lets you disengage/reengage the gear with a key, so the gate can be manually pushed open/close if necessary.
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I am not sure by your comment that you can not get them to open. The black knob revolves around the body of the unit so unless it is installed it might seem that it does not open. Did you get instructions in the packaging that told you how to chafe the number?Nick
396300
Nope. You just yank it open. (which causes one to question how well the safety interlocks work)
766279
You cannot open them. That is a bit of a con for this product. 2 if mine didn't even work.
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The screw at the bottom is a "one way" screw, meaning it can only be accessed on one end of the screw. The other end of the screw is rounded off, almost like a dimple. If you take the screw out of the bottom, then open the box and put the screw in from the inside with the rounded side to the bottom, it will be much more difficult to access. More difficult, but not impossible. I imagine that if someone was determined enough, they could use glue or something to create a tool to open it. If you are concerned about your teenager going to that great length to access your gun, then I would suggest not having a gun in your house. Otherwise, the GunBox is beyond great. The screw at the bottom is a "one way" screw, meaning it can only be accessed on one end of the screw. The other end of the screw is rounded off, almost like a dimple. If you take the screw out of the bottom, then open the box and put the screw in from the inside with the rounded side to the bottom, it will be much more difficult to access. More difficult, but not impossible. I imagine that if someone was determined enough, they could use glue or something to create a tool to open it. If you are concerned about your teenager going to that great length to access your gun, then I... » Read More The screw at the bottom is a "one way" screw, meaning it can only be accessed on one end of the screw. The other end of the screw is rounded off, almost like a dimple. If you take the screw out of the bottom, then open the box and put the screw in from the inside with the rounded side to the bottom, it will be much more difficult to access. More difficult, but not impossible. I imagine that if someone was determined enough, they could use glue or something to create a tool to open it. If you are concerned about your teenager going to that great length to access your gun, then I would suggest not having a gun in your house. Otherwise, the GunBox is beyond great. « Show Less
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Hi David! The easiest way that I do it is to pull the release clip to the front of me. I can get it open easier that way. Hope this helps!
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You shouldn't need to open it. The pins just move up and down by pushing on them or pulling them out (sort of pull them from the edge)
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No. it's not normal. I see what you are talking about but on my sons the ends of the screws are flat against the plastic so when I rub my fingers over them they do not poke out. I would return/exchange the one you have.
121552
Very easy, i just removed mine last night. It's one screw and it's easily reachable.
1878329
I've not tried to pick the lock, but it looks fairly sturdy. I think if someone wanted to brute force the thing open THAT badly, they probably could, but they'd destroy the thing in the process.
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Well not following the short side of the L but the two short pieces of the lock side prevent people from using a credit card to work the door handle lock open. Also from breaking the door area where you drilled for the lock. On the other side of the door the two small pieces cover the hinge plate making it stronger on that side. I don't think it give much protection over removing the screws one at a time and using the 3 1/2 inch screws. I would replace the door with a metal one if you have a tired old wood door then add the kit.
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I don't think any box like this is really secure. Either you could pick the lock with a paperclip or a screwdriver would force most open. Mostly, the fit and finish was poor and eventually the locking tab broke off. Not much good after that. Also, the handle didn't was to stay on. The "rings" that went from the handle through holes in the lid were sized poorly enough that after some movement one side or the other of the handle kept coming off. Eventually, I just locked it and carried it underneath. Not fun when I am carrying everything else in and out of my store. I replaced it with a SentrySafe model that's similar and am much happier with that one. I don't think any box like this is really secure. Either you could pick the lock with a paperclip or a screwdriver would force most open. Mostly, the fit and finish was poor and eventually the locking tab broke off. Not much good after that. Also, the handle didn't was to stay on. The "rings" that went from the handle through holes in the lid were sized poorly enough that after some movement one side or the other of the handle kept coming off. Eventually, I just locked it and carried it underneath. Not fun when I am carrying everything else in and out of my store. I replaced it... » Read More I don't think any box like this is really secure. Either you could pick the lock with a paperclip or a screwdriver would force most open. Mostly, the fit and finish was poor and eventually the locking tab broke off. Not much good after that. Also, the handle didn't was to stay on. The "rings" that went from the handle through holes in the lid were sized poorly enough that after some movement one side or the other of the handle kept coming off. Eventually, I just locked it and carried it underneath. Not fun when I am carrying everything else in and out of my store. I replaced it with a SentrySafe model that's similar and am much happier with that one. « Show Less