Why is Panasonic not letting us buy the G2 body only? I already have a G1. I love the camera and the kit lens. Now, if I want to upgrade, I would like to buy just the body of the G2. I don't want the kit lens of the G2. It is not as good as the G1's lens. Less zoom and slightly less build quality. I understood why they included the kit lens with the G1. At the time it came out there weren't that many lenses available. Now, there are several lenses availalbe. Why would I want to get the kit lens with the G2 when I already have a better lens, the one that came with the G1. Please Panasonic. Let us buy the body only so we can decide which lenses we want. Why is Panasonic not letting us buy the G2 body only? I already have a G1. I love the camera and the kit lens. Now, if I want to upgrade, I would like to buy just the body of the G2. I don't... » Read More Why is Panasonic not letting us buy the G2 body only? I already have a G1. I love the camera and the kit lens. Now, if I want to upgrade, I would like to buy just the body of the G2. I don't want the kit lens of the G2. It is not as good as the G1's lens. Less zoom and slightly less build quality. I understood why they included the kit lens with the G1. At the time it came out there weren't that many lenses available. Now, there are several lenses availalbe. Why would I want to get the kit lens with the G2 when I already have a better lens, the one that came with the G1. Please Panasonic. Let us buy the body only so we can decide which lenses we want. « Show Less
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I joined Club Panasonic when I purchased one of my Panasonic cameras. I got an e-mail from them yesterday offering the DMC-G2K Body Only for $350. They had 3 other options: a G2K with an H_FS014045 14-45 lens for $600 and a G2K with either the 20mm or 14mm "pancake' lens for $650. This offer was directly from Panasonic for Club Panasonic users.
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I just realized there is a difference between the G2 and the DMC-GH2K. I've had the DMC-GH2 on order since November.
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It is now $299.95 !!!! It is the perfect time to get this camera, I got one already, and am loving every moment of using it. Panasonic LUMIX DMCG2K 12.1MP Digital Camera (Body Only)
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+1 for this question. I would love to buy the G2, but don't want the kit lens.
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I had the same issues finding the camera until I made some calls to an LA based camera store, Sammy's Camera. Their website lists the GF1 with 20mm lens as back ordered however when I called, a salesman actually checked and said they did have a few. So I called their mail order number and sure enough, I was able to buy one. Not sure how many more they have but whoever reads this first and wants one may be lucky. Just a thought, if the guy who answers the phone says they are out of stock, have him double check because when I first called I was told it was out of stock. Good luck!
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I would bundle. It's a great camera like all Panasonics - but it needs a long lens. I got used to my compact Panasonic with a 10x lens and so I am hoping to save up for the better zoom. I like close ups!
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I am thinking about getting a G2 but wanted to know a something regarding the various aspect ratios that are available which are the 4:3, 3:2, 16:9, and 1:1 aspect ratios. My question is can all of these aspect ratios be shot in RAW mode?Thanks.Mark
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i found its a better piece of glass and you will only need one lens for all scenarios. I was constantly switching from one kit lens to the other, now I ack one lens and im good to go in most scenarios. I sold my kit lenses and got a nice 50m 1.8 for portraits and use this 18-200 for all other instances.
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Thanks again. I'll be deciding by the end of the week, because I'll have to return the Canon by Saturday! Another thing re: the Panasonic is that you can attach certain lenses to it to extend the zoom and possibly some other stuff. I like that Idea. I love cameras with big wide lenses on them!Take care, and thanks for your thoughts.
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Well I must say I love my G1!! I was thinking the pancake 20mm f1.7 should be my next purchase, it just hard to convince myself about cashing $400 for it, but for what I have read it's the most versatile of them all. Now that the EZ zoom is based on digital zoom right? I try not to use the digital zoom since I don't like the lost of quality. I'm not big into telephoto as of now at least, so I think I'll go for the pancake. It's suppose to be 40mm as equivalent to a 35mm camera. And the reviews say it's versatile enough for dimly lit scenarios.Thanks for your reply!!
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I'm talking about the Gh2 also. I've had mine since Christmas. Amazon has had them off & on for a while now. It's a great camera. Wish I could figure out how to use everything on it. I guess in time:-)
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The GF3 can be purchased as a body only OR with a standard kit lens. If you bought the body only, you'd then have to purchase a micro 4/3 lens (either from panasonic or olympus). If you bought the body + standard kit lens, it's ready to use as is.
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Thanks SFer!I agree 1000%! I was planning on purchasing another Panasonic battery so that I have one on standby, but I can't find the Panasonic one, and I can't tell which other one to buy. Every time I think I found it, I read reviews on it and people say not to buy it because it's not compatible. It's really confusing. Fortunately for Panasonic, I really LOVE the camera and can't wait to get my hands on it.Thanks for the list of what's included. You're right about that too... no list anywhere to be found. What's up with that??I'll go to Panasonic and download the PDF file you mentioned.Thanks! Thanks SFer!I agree 1000%! I was planning on purchasing another Panasonic battery so that I have one on standby, but I can't find the Panasonic one, and I can't tell which other one to buy. Every time I think I found it, I read reviews on it and people say not to buy it because it's not compatible. It's really confusing. Fortunately for Panasonic, I really LOVE the camera and can't wait to get my hands on it.Thanks for the list of what's included. You're right about that too... no list anywhere to be found. What's up with that??I'll go to Panasonic and... » Read More Thanks SFer!I agree 1000%! I was planning on purchasing another Panasonic battery so that I have one on standby, but I can't find the Panasonic one, and I can't tell which other one to buy. Every time I think I found it, I read reviews on it and people say not to buy it because it's not compatible. It's really confusing. Fortunately for Panasonic, I really LOVE the camera and can't wait to get my hands on it.Thanks for the list of what's included. You're right about that too... no list anywhere to be found. What's up with that??I'll go to Panasonic and download the PDF file you mentioned.Thanks! « Show Less
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From what I can tell they are the same components. Having not actually examined the powershot lens kit, there might be a subtle difference in suppliers of the components. I'm thinking not. The Ultimate lens package we had puchased for our G10 worked out fine and for the price was a "no brainer".
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I've been using the G 1X since it first came out. I can tell you that the amount of noise at high ISOs is remarkably minimal. No camera is ideal for everyone. But the large sensor, the portability of the camera, and low noise at high ISOs make this good for me. I hope this helps.
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The GF1 20mm kit lists as available (ships 3-5 days, with free shipping) direct from Panasonic. I'm not sure if links to other retailers are allowed in amazon discussions so I'm hesitant to post it, but it is there. I am waiting for amazon because Panasonic charges sales tax in California and that's nearly a 10% addition to the final price -- even so, I'm tempted to order it direct as the waiting is getting old and I would really like to have the camera before Christmas, which is looking more and more unlikely.
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As other have found though the S90's f/2 is only at the widest setting and the G11 is brigher at full zoom and the zoom is longer. So there are a few tradeoffs with the lenses. I'm actually in the same boat I got the G11, but fell in love with the s90 so I got that as well to replace my SD20 pocket camera. Sorry I have not had them long enough or shot enough pictures to give any real comparison. Coming from the SD20 I have a lot of catching up to do on the cameras and the software. I will say I think the rear dial on the s90 and G11 are too easy to rotate, I like the rear dial on the Canon SLRs, these little ones feel cheap and really are not the break through they represented for the SLRs. The s90 control ring on the lens seems very nice, but if it was all metal it would feel much nicer; still that feature is going to work well. I already put an egrips pad on the front of the s90 and a couple other carefully placed so I can hold onto the camera. First pocket camera I've put the hand-strap on as well (very nice one is supplied with camera). They should have included a slim slip case for the camera. I agree the Articulating LCD is a very nice feature and one of the main reasons I'll hold onto the G11, I know the new screens are better but often I'm shooting blind with my SD20. Coming from SLRs still nothing beats a great view finder or angle finder, but the articulating LCD can be very very handy. Now I have two cameras to learn (well actually 3 I replaced my film SLR with a digital as well), it maybe the G11 won't get a lot of use as the s90 will almost certainly be my pocket camera. Still It will be nice to have and after learning to operate these new digitals it should not be to hard to switch between the s90 and the G11.
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Yes, I have a T2i with 2 kit lens. I purchased the 50mm f1.8 and it's a wonderful little lens, great for portraits and closeups. I recently (literally a day ago) bought the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 without VC. All I can say is WOW. For less than $500 I finally found a lens that does everything really well. Photos and videos. It's super sharp and super fast. I didn't get the VC version of this lens as I've read mixed reviews about softness. The older lens is beautiful!
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I agree completely. We have a G-9 and LX-2. I love the interface of the Canon but the images of the Leicasonic are often a little cleaner. The G-10 is not as good as the G-9 IMHO and the LX-3 is a smarter upgrade (they tried for improved images, not pixel count). The paid reviewers generally agree that the LX-3 is better, but things could change in the next iteration. Someone (Steve's?) said that they'd wished Canon had used a sensor like Panasonic did. That would be close to an ideal pocket camera for me.
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I haven't used a G9 etc but have it's baby brother the 12Mp AS650 IS.The sensor is apparently the same but it overexposes the highlights and is too slow to autofocus and shoot. BUT love the twisty screen. It is so useful for high/low shots. That is what will sell me on the G11. I love the idea of the panorama on the Sony HX1 but apparently the image quality on the panorama is not great and the camera is bulky. If you have handled a G10 you will see just how easy and accessible the controls are. Totally right for an SLR user. The G11 will have better image quality than the G10 due to reduced Mp count and upgraded tech. Hopefully the G12 will have HD video and everyone will be happy. I haven't used a G9 etc but have it's baby brother the 12Mp AS650 IS.The sensor is apparently the same but it overexposes the highlights and is too slow to autofocus and shoot. BUT love the twisty screen. It is so useful for high/low shots. That is what will sell me on the G11. I love the idea of the panorama on the Sony HX1 but apparently the image quality on the panorama is not great and the camera is bulky. If you have handled a G10 you will see just how easy and accessible the controls are. Totally right for an SLR user. The G11 will have better image quality than the G10 due to... » Read More I haven't used a G9 etc but have it's baby brother the 12Mp AS650 IS.The sensor is apparently the same but it overexposes the highlights and is too slow to autofocus and shoot. BUT love the twisty screen. It is so useful for high/low shots. That is what will sell me on the G11. I love the idea of the panorama on the Sony HX1 but apparently the image quality on the panorama is not great and the camera is bulky. If you have handled a G10 you will see just how easy and accessible the controls are. Totally right for an SLR user. The G11 will have better image quality than the G10 due to reduced Mp count and upgraded tech. Hopefully the G12 will have HD video and everyone will be happy. « Show Less