Evaluating 3D - Reviews on '3D Experience' Has anyone else been to a Best Buy or Sony Store to evaluate the 3D effect? I'd like to hear other's impressions.I went to a Best Buy with the '3D Experience' but didn't see much 3D effect and the picture quality dropped. I later read in the online 55C7000 manual about the Picture/3D/Depth and Picture Correction that may solve the issue. I can't make it back to BestBuy until the weekend, although this Sunday some will also have the 3D Panny's for comparison.I'm hoping to see 3D quality comparable to that found in the Dolby Digital 3D/RealD movie theaters. Evaluating 3D - Reviews on '3D Experience' Has anyone else been to a Best Buy or Sony Store to evaluate the 3D effect? I'd like to hear other's impressions.I went to a... » Read More Evaluating 3D - Reviews on '3D Experience' Has anyone else been to a Best Buy or Sony Store to evaluate the 3D effect? I'd like to hear other's impressions.I went to a Best Buy with the '3D Experience' but didn't see much 3D effect and the picture quality dropped. I later read in the online 55C7000 manual about the Picture/3D/Depth and Picture Correction that may solve the issue. I can't make it back to BestBuy until the weekend, although this Sunday some will also have the 3D Panny's for comparison.I'm hoping to see 3D quality comparable to that found in the Dolby Digital 3D/RealD movie theaters. « Show Less
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Thanks for the reply, it is helpful. I saw a 3D bluray disk of Monsters Vs Aliens with about 30 minutes from the movie, which is all they had. I also felt the source material may not have been well done for 3D. The picture quality also dropped noticably but both may have been because the 3D settings needed tweaking.
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This just in from an industry newsletter:"* Not so Fast on 3D: CBS boss Les Moonves told the Milken Institute Global Conference yesterday that the 3D he's seen so far is considerably less than impressive. Said Moonves, "Does the experience get good enough on television to work? I'm not sure it's going to be economically viable for the near future,""
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I've seen the samsung c7000 3d twice and was very impressed with it. To say that there is no 3d effect is ridiculous. Either the glasses were not working or the post is bogus. Clearly when the laser gun is pointed during the MvA scenes as well as many other scenes, there seems to be a 2 -3 foot pop out of the screen. My 10 year old, who is not easily impressed, watched a half hour of the movie and said "you can take back whatever you got for my birthday if we get this Samsung 3d. Next to a Lamborghini, this is the bomb!" The Best Buy rep did say that the best 3d effect is about 10 feet from the screen (and most displays are about 5 feet). TIFWIW. I've seen the samsung c7000 3d twice and was very impressed with it. To say that there is no 3d effect is ridiculous. Either the glasses were not working or the post is bogus. Clearly when the laser gun is pointed during the MvA scenes as well as many other scenes, there seems to be a 2 -3 foot pop out of the screen. My 10 year old, who is not easily impressed, watched a half hour of the movie and said "you can take back whatever you got for my birthday if we get this Samsung 3d. Next to a Lamborghini, this is the bomb!" The Best Buy rep did say that the best 3d effect is about 10... » Read More I've seen the samsung c7000 3d twice and was very impressed with it. To say that there is no 3d effect is ridiculous. Either the glasses were not working or the post is bogus. Clearly when the laser gun is pointed during the MvA scenes as well as many other scenes, there seems to be a 2 -3 foot pop out of the screen. My 10 year old, who is not easily impressed, watched a half hour of the movie and said "you can take back whatever you got for my birthday if we get this Samsung 3d. Next to a Lamborghini, this is the bomb!" The Best Buy rep did say that the best 3d effect is about 10 feet from the screen (and most displays are about 5 feet). TIFWIW. « Show Less
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Yes, I tried it out... I'd put it in at about a 7 or an 8, on a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best). It was pretty cool, and I was impressed, but I was not totally blown away. I think they really need to show more eye-popping content in the demo. For instance, there's a part in the demo where the cartoon character is bouncing a ball on the paddle, and the ball comes right out at you, and it feels like the ball is going to hit you in the face. They need to show more content like that. The 3D quality is definitely not comparable to what you'd see in a theater, but I do think the potential is there... Hope this helps! Yes, I tried it out... I'd put it in at about a 7 or an 8, on a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best). It was pretty cool, and I was impressed, but I was not totally blown away. I think they really need to show more eye-popping content in the demo. For instance, there's a part in the demo where the cartoon character is bouncing a ball on the paddle, and the ball comes right out at you, and it feels like the ball is going to hit you in the face. They need to show more content like that. The 3D quality is definitely not comparable to what you'd see in a theater, but I do think the potential... » Read More Yes, I tried it out... I'd put it in at about a 7 or an 8, on a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best). It was pretty cool, and I was impressed, but I was not totally blown away. I think they really need to show more eye-popping content in the demo. For instance, there's a part in the demo where the cartoon character is bouncing a ball on the paddle, and the ball comes right out at you, and it feels like the ball is going to hit you in the face. They need to show more content like that. The 3D quality is definitely not comparable to what you'd see in a theater, but I do think the potential is there... Hope this helps! « Show Less
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Ahhh, the hazards of buying anything electronic. As soon as you get it home they come out with something better. It will take a while before 3D TV's and Blu-rays make a huge impact. The TV needs specific software/hardware in order to put the 3D image on the screen and be visible with the glasses.
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I saw both the samsung and panasonic and must say the panasonic is by far the better TV for 3D, the image actually came out of the TV as opposed to just being "deep" like the samsung, although i guess it depends on the content u are watching. Overall the picture was clearer and more brilliant in color, plasmas are superior to LCDs in picture quality in 2D so I am not surprised they also are in the 3rd dimension.
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I just purchased a LG 240hz LED tv & now i'm being told I have to buy a new tv to see 3d, why cant I buy a 3d blue ray player & appropriate HDMI cord & glasses
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I talked to the Sony warranty people for over an hour today. This is some of last years 4k parts, so it does have a track record. The panel is new just coming out in September. The one thing I like about the Sony is that they are not getting the Chinese boards. Way too many quality control issues coming out of the student free labor in these electronic plants. The tech high school kids are working for free and the quality shows. Samsung and Panasonic have had quality issues in both the Plasma and LCD/LED, read all the reviews here and you will see what I mean. I own two Samsung's, and switched to Sony, because of returning 3-Plasmas, 3-blu-rays, and having my current Samsung LED fixed twice. I own a PS3 and it just runs, when my Samsung Blu-rays would not. See my latest review on the size of pixels for repair under warranty.
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John - you have been incredibly helpful and i appreciate your knowledge. My receiver does support all of the lossless sound formats regarding DTS HD masterauduio and tolby True HD. I am thinking that the PS3 does as well. In your opinion, what are the best looking Blu rays that you have personally seen or own regarding visuals and effects? Thanks Again!
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My subjective opinion is based on a pretty simple observation. I've looked at and compared both sets at Sears and at Best Buy and the Samsung had the best picture quality by far. In fact at as little as 5 feet away I had a difficult time seeing any difference between the model in question and several other 1080p models hanging next to it. I know a lot depends upon the quality of video feed the stores are using for the demo models on display. This is only my opinion and I know that can vary greatly for the person to person. So, take it for what its worth. Hopefully others can add their observations to the discussion. My subjective opinion is based on a pretty simple observation. I've looked at and compared both sets at Sears and at Best Buy and the Samsung had the best picture quality by far. In fact at as little as 5 feet away I had a difficult time seeing any difference between the model in question and several other 1080p models hanging next to it. I know a lot depends upon the quality of video feed the stores are using for the demo models on display. This is only my opinion and I know that can vary greatly for the person to person. So, take it for what its worth. Hopefully others can add their... » Read More My subjective opinion is based on a pretty simple observation. I've looked at and compared both sets at Sears and at Best Buy and the Samsung had the best picture quality by far. In fact at as little as 5 feet away I had a difficult time seeing any difference between the model in question and several other 1080p models hanging next to it. I know a lot depends upon the quality of video feed the stores are using for the demo models on display. This is only my opinion and I know that can vary greatly for the person to person. So, take it for what its worth. Hopefully others can add their observations to the discussion. « Show Less
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I literally just ordered a KDL-W3000 52 inch television 1 hour ago. I did 3 months of research and although I am not sure how I'll fell when I get the television, I can say that I went for the w3000. I looked at some seocnd tier brands first, but quickly moved on to the main brands.... settling in on the Sharp D64 or a Toshiba 167 or the Sony W3000. Of course the Sony was the most expensive of the brands I was looking at. As far as picture and blur: I can not even tell you if I could see any difference between the w3000 and the XBR, so I went for the XBR. I did see one scene in a movie where I saw a slight amount of motion blur, so I am sure it exists.. the quesiton is, "how bad does the blur appear to you and what is it worth for you to minimize the blur" ? For me... the answer was in my order.. I went with the W3000. The price was $2309 no tax, no delivery fee.
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Not firsthand but I read a lot of reviews on 3D capable TV's and the prevalent opinion of those who have purchased such 3D TVs is that the feature improves the picture and is not high in cost. I bought my TV just a few days ago and may be able to give you a better answer soon. Hopefulskeptic
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BTW...yesterday I was in BB and Sony has just released a 32" XBR9 1080p with 120hz Motionflow technology... and it is up on the Sony Style website.. so much for what the salesman tell you that Sony is not going to produce..But compared to the Sony 32" 1080p 60 hz.. I thought the higher priced model with 120hz looked grainy to me. I really didn't see the $200 difference in the (retail price). Perhaps on Blu Ray disc viewing there is a difference.. GLTA
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Scotty picture is excellent, I use it for gaming combined with a GTX780 video card, and it rocks. I find 3d pretty much worthless, at least for gaming.
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I've seen the W3000 side by side with XBR. I don't like the XBR. It makes movies look like stage shows. Very disconcerting if you like movies. The "3D" effect they talk about makes movies look like video -- if you know the distinction. (If you watch sports more than movies, you will probably like the XBR more.) I almost bought an XBR because "MotionFlow" sounded good... I was stunned when I saw them side by side. Also happy, because I'll save almost a grand by buying a 52W3000 rather than XBR! Do yourself a favor and find them in a store so you can look. Some people like the XBR 3D effect. I really don't.
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ok so as is its not marketed as a 3d tv. my ps3 will say that it is 3d and i can get 3d movies off netflix bt they do not look right. the commercial for the new dinosaur movie came on and the t rex appeared 3d off the screen with no glasses. my friends where there during it to witness and vouch. at the end of the day Seiki won't know what to tell you and nore do I
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I'm not a 3D expert as I've only seen a few movies in 3D. Based on other 3D movies I've seen the pop out and depth is excellent on this TV. It feels like you can reach out and touch objects because it appears so realistic. I've not watched any 3D movies with this TV, just downloaded movies.
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I believe I got one. Indeed it worked, but it was not like when I had seen real 3D at the movies. Maybe I was expecting too much. But it was cool enough. Sorry if this did not help much.
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I only watch movies so far. I've been collecting 3d movies for the last several months. All are not created equal. In the upper left hand corner as your movie loads it tells you if it is 1080p, aspect ratio, and refresh. It is getting that from the source. Which I would assume would be the same for vid games. I have neither the new Xbox or ps4 but would bet new games made for them would have the higher refresh rate.
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I've been told it does not work with 3D. I'm presuming the reason Sony is dropping the price now is that a new version is coming out that fixes the gracenote problems (hard to deal with discs that are not on gracenote) AND the next version will be 3D capable. This is strictly a guess, but every other Sony Bluray player is now 3D capable except this one. And since all the 3D movies aren't coming out unitl later this fall...I should just go and put in a 3D movie and see though. Sony's support on this player does seem to be a bit weak.
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I read as much information on the product before I purchased and the information I found useful for my needs and it does just as described. I'd check with BestBuy before purchasing if your query is not resolved in your research. Sorry not able to respond otherwise.
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Good info, totally makes sense. Im excited for the 3D and all that but I am also looking forward to the 240Hz in 24" and at the price as there is currently nothing like that now. Will probabaly have to use a different Blu-Ray player for movies to have that smooth look to them as I don't think the PS3 can play movies past 60Hz. Still curious how it looks. I personally like smaller HD screens and am curious how it will look.
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I own the panasonic 54 inch vt25 but just from looking at the store's display models, the sony is a superior tv. It displays less cross-talk, deeper blacks, and there is (to me) by far more pop in the 3d. what bothered me most about the samsung led 3dtvs is how the image feels very "wet" or extremely glossy when viewing 3d content. I didnt get that effect when viewing the sony led. Thats my two cents. cnet reviewed the tv and compares it to the sammy and panny in a brief article herehttp://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20009377-1.html?tag=hotTopicsBody.1