Exhorbitant pricing for the Pioneer 1018 I bought my Pioneer 1018 through Amazon for $461 and was very happy with the price. What I cannot understand is why Amazon tolerates exorbitant pricing for merchandise by some other sellers on its website. The price one seller lists for the 1018 is $1,579.99 + $19.49 shipping. That is nearly three times list price! Perhaps Amazon wants to run a completely open market with no oversight, but this pricing is almost frivolous and detracts from the credibility of the website. Why allow this? Exhorbitant pricing for the Pioneer 1018 I bought my Pioneer 1018 through Amazon for $461 and was very happy with the price. What I cannot understand is why Amazon tolerates exorbitant pricing for... » Read More Exhorbitant pricing for the Pioneer 1018 I bought my Pioneer 1018 through Amazon for $461 and was very happy with the price. What I cannot understand is why Amazon tolerates exorbitant pricing for merchandise by some other sellers on its website. The price one seller lists for the 1018 is $1,579.99 + $19.49 shipping. That is nearly three times list price! Perhaps Amazon wants to run a completely open market with no oversight, but this pricing is almost frivolous and detracts from the credibility of the website. Why allow this? « Show Less
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I went on Walmart's site just now and I found the unit at the very bottom of the Pioneer 518 page. However they say they are not selling it online right now. Maybe there was a bit of trouble because the price was so low. Sorry to mislead you. They do have the 918 though for 238 which I bought and it sounds great. See you guys.
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It is currently available from Walmart on line for 429 plus tax and ship-to-store free.
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To all of you out there, although, pioneer has put more features into the 1019, it weights 10 pounds less! So features go up, and quality goes down...it is now no different that any other run-of-the mill A/V reciever out there.........
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He is correct. That's on the Pioneer website. Go to the page below and compare the 1018 to the 1019. i saw the same thing and was pretty puzzled by what was left off. The amp is rated at 10W less per channel, but that can't account for the 10lb difference. 33% weight reduction feels severe to me. My sense is that product is aiming down market.http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/AV-Receivers/PioneerReceivers
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I agree, War Eagle! I also hate the fact that the List Price is $499 and Amazon is selling it for $503. That doesn't seem right either!
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Dude. Pioneer's web site says the list price if $599. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/AV-Receivers/PioneerReceivers/ci.VSX-1018AH-K.Kuro?tab=B If anyone really got it for less than Amazon's price it would be bennificial to let us all know where specifically you got it and did you get free shipping and no tax.
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Upon what information are you basing your comment that because the 1019 is 10 lbs. lighter than the 1018 that the "quality goes down"?????
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When your in the electronics area click receivers & amplifiers on the left. Then check out the receivers that are 5/1 type. Scroll down and they will have units on the side or bottom of these pages. When you see Pioneer 7/1 you got it. This may take a few times but it's there.
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Not sure what Amazon's price was before with freebies, but I gather its price (compared with others on the Amazon site) reflects that the freebies aren't really free. On the 24th Sony Style store was selling it in store for 2200 with free financing options. Not sure about today.
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Um, there is. Amazon is listing it for $4.50, fifty cents cheaper than on the alternate sites you mentioned. If there was once an incorrect price, it's been fixed.
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I just bought it local for $1,550. That includes taxes and delivery. At the time it was about the same price on Amazon. Now, with free shipping, it looks like I might have saved about $125 if I were only a bit more patient. Actually, it would have been a slam-dunk in Amazon's favor were it not for all the complaints regarding their delivery service.
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The Pioneer site lists Amazon as an authorized internet dealer for the non-Elite line.I assume that is only for "Sold by Amazon" and not for other vendors.Wade
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Yes I have. For months I've been regularly ordering this for about $29.00 (prime eligible) for the 80 count package. I logged in earlier today and saw that a) it's no longer prime eligible, and b) the price from other sellers is about $40.00!If this doesn't change, I'll be buying elsewhere.
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Matt, the price creep is really annoying! I was about to buy this thing last week for $2199, but wanted to wait till I got home because I had $75 worth of Amazon credits that I wanted to apply. By the time I got home, the price has risen by $85!!! So unfuriating! Then it dropped another $15. I felt like I was watching the stock market! Feeling like a sucker, I finally bit the bullet yesterday and purchased the TV for $2269. I'm glad I didn't wait until today because the price increased another $50! I don't know why they do this, but it makes me very uncomfortable as a customer. Will the price drop again by tonight? I feel like I'm a rat in a market-testing experiment. I wonder whether all of Amazon's customers see the same price or do some customers get higher prices depending on how often they express interest in a product by re-visiting the same page? I remember a few years ago Amazon gave slightly different pricing info to people who had an item saved to their wish lists.
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Amazon is not selling it for half the price, I am. I am a small business who buys things wholesale and sells them on amazon, I don't have much of an overhead and I do not mark my items up to the moon like retail stores do. Yreka7
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Yes, the seller is lying about the list price to make it look like you are getting a better deal. These just came out and the real list price has always been $1,400.00. Also, you will not have a Pioneer warranty. If you look at larger legit sellers like Crutchfield you are going to pay closer to the real list price but you get a warranty. You have to decide if that is worth an extra $300. They do also give you free support for life and all the connections you'll need to install it in your car but that's maybe $50. I struggle with this all the time as the devices normally fail after the warranty is up. Yes, the seller is lying about the list price to make it look like you are getting a better deal. These just came out and the real list price has always been $1,400.00. Also, you will not have a Pioneer warranty. If you look at larger legit sellers like Crutchfield you are going to pay closer to the real list price but you get a warranty. You have to decide if that is worth an extra $300. They do also give you free support for life and all the connections you'll need to install it in your car but that's maybe $50. I struggle with this all the time as the devices normally fail after the... » Read More Yes, the seller is lying about the list price to make it look like you are getting a better deal. These just came out and the real list price has always been $1,400.00. Also, you will not have a Pioneer warranty. If you look at larger legit sellers like Crutchfield you are going to pay closer to the real list price but you get a warranty. You have to decide if that is worth an extra $300. They do also give you free support for life and all the connections you'll need to install it in your car but that's maybe $50. I struggle with this all the time as the devices normally fail after the warranty is up. « Show Less
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Usually when this happens on Amazon, it's because the usual sellers have sold out. Sellers then raise prices, sometime incidentally because prices are managed by computers algorithms. I don't believe this is an expected price for this.
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Probably because they purchased it for under $100. If you notice amazon prices fluctuate daily. For example today (01/06/2014) the price is 97.82+ shipping.
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You people are ridiculous. Amazon does a great service with their price guarantee, but you actually have to read it. If you bought the item through another vendor on amazon that is YOUR problem not amazon's. Clearly people are not paying attention to what they are doing. On top of that amazon is not "drop shipping" from any other location. You are actually buying from another company that is using amazon to sell the products they also carry. Why would amazon give you money back for that? If amazon sells it directly to you then they absolutely will 100% of the time honor their price guarantee. You people are ridiculous. Amazon does a great service with their price guarantee, but you actually have to read it. If you bought the item through another vendor on amazon that is YOUR problem not amazon's. Clearly people are not paying attention to what they are doing. On top of that amazon is not "drop shipping" from any other location. You are actually buying from another company that is using amazon to sell the products they also carry. Why would amazon give you money back for that? If amazon sells it directly to you then they absolutely will 100% of the time honor their... » Read More You people are ridiculous. Amazon does a great service with their price guarantee, but you actually have to read it. If you bought the item through another vendor on amazon that is YOUR problem not amazon's. Clearly people are not paying attention to what they are doing. On top of that amazon is not "drop shipping" from any other location. You are actually buying from another company that is using amazon to sell the products they also carry. Why would amazon give you money back for that? If amazon sells it directly to you then they absolutely will 100% of the time honor their price guarantee. « Show Less
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I'm finding it for half price on other sites as well, but the shipping cost makes it the same as the prime price. Is that what you're talking about?
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Yes this is price gouging... personally I think Amazon should not allow items to be listed above a certain percentage of msrp. Not even sure if this will work with a modern OS (apart from Linux).
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Because Amazon doesn't have a fixed price system. Just get whatever you find cheaper.
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When you ask a question like this, it shows up on ALL listings of this item, not just the one you saw for over $40. Looks kind of silly to see this question when the price is less than $20, and free shipping with Amazon Prime. These questions should be about the product itself, not individual sellers.
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In 2012, this exact item and qty was being sold on Amazon for $21.99. In 2013, I paid $19.59. In 2014 it has skyrocketed in price. Still a good deal at $46? Possibly, but something has changed either with the supplier or the demand for the product. Kills me to pay $46 for something when it was available for 1/2 the price previously.