Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st... » Read More Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? « Show Less
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I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and... » Read More I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. « Show Less
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Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch. Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch.
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No, the battery life is only short when your messing around on the menu, but when your listening to music and NOTHING else, it's a whole different story. One time I was listening to music at night, fell asleep, woke up in the morning and there was only HALF the batttery life. It was fully charged at night, so there is about 20 hr. of music listening time, or whatever you call it. Anywho, there's to many kids on Amazon that treat there things poorly, get on the computer, and type a bad review about it. I think the new ipod nano is awesome and has good battery life.
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fannie lou, sounds like you got a lemon. I'd return if it was me. And regardless would return it since you already have docking systems. The charging issue is a known one, if you have older docking systems, it may likely not work. New docking systems will most likely work. That does suck. My attitude is that the Nano 4th gen is great for first time ipod users like myself (who will buy new docking stations anyway), not so good for existing users.
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I received a 4th Generation for Christmas and have no trouble with batterylife. I often listen to audiobooks as well as listening at work. I don't have a charging station at work and can usually go at least 2 full working days (8 hour days) without charging.
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I am very happy with my 2GB Sansa. Just updated the firmware (very smooth application downloaded from Sandisk site).Sleek design, not as cool as Nano, but very close. Ubercool video which Nano doesn't have, which works surprisingly well.Bigger screen than Nano too. Micro SD slot a great plus. And it also works like a storage device, so you can take files with it, something Nano doesn't do.Go for the $129 (at time of writing) 4GB model.
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Pls excuse my ignorance - I know nothing about any of this but am looking to buy for my niece. So my stupid question is this: With Skype and the other items noted above, she can use this ipod as a telephone, correct? Then it must have WiFi access? But to use it as a cell phone wouldn't be good as you can't always pick up a WiFi connection. Do I have this right?On the other side of the coin, the new Iphone also has an Ipod in it, but I can't find anywhere on Apple site how much storage it has for ipod capability - how many songs can it hold (Assuming New IPhone 3g 16g)?
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Eh. Already have a 3rd Gen iPad. The big push for me is the cost of replacing the battery vs buying a new one. If I trade my iTouch in I can get $129. So that's $170 away from a replacement 5th gen iTouch. Then I gotta buy a stupid adapter. Replacing the battery when the time comes will cost me $79. Is the extra $100 or so bucks before adapters worth it? What happened to the 8 gb iTouch? I don't need 32 gb anymore!
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I own the apple iphone 4 8gb and love it. apple put out the ios 7 updates for everyone and that was pretty cool. The updates have made it easier to get quick access to the calander, calculator, music and they give you a flashlight. Once in the phone, the looks is sleek and they have added a radio to the itunes (i think this is to compete with pandora.) I haven't had any experiance with the new stuff, but I literally use my iphone for everything....camera, phone, music, calander, calculator, notebook, read books off of it, texting, facetime, alarm clock, timer....there is nothing i would change about it and am hesitant to upgrade next summer because i love it so much. I own the apple iphone 4 8gb and love it. apple put out the ios 7 updates for everyone and that was pretty cool. The updates have made it easier to get quick access to the calander, calculator, music and they give you a flashlight. Once in the phone, the looks is sleek and they have added a radio to the itunes (i think this is to compete with pandora.) I haven't had any experiance with the new stuff, but I literally use my iphone for everything....camera, phone, music, calander, calculator, notebook, read books off of it, texting, facetime, alarm clock, timer....there is nothing i would... » Read More I own the apple iphone 4 8gb and love it. apple put out the ios 7 updates for everyone and that was pretty cool. The updates have made it easier to get quick access to the calander, calculator, music and they give you a flashlight. Once in the phone, the looks is sleek and they have added a radio to the itunes (i think this is to compete with pandora.) I haven't had any experiance with the new stuff, but I literally use my iphone for everything....camera, phone, music, calander, calculator, notebook, read books off of it, texting, facetime, alarm clock, timer....there is nothing i would change about it and am hesitant to upgrade next summer because i love it so much. « Show Less
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Harvey from what I could find it looks like the two are the same size so I don't think you would have any real problem. There will be the small hole in the back where the camera is on the 4th generation. I read the reviews complaining about the belt clip and decided just to take it off, but that is your decision and not what you asked about. Plus if you take the belt clip off the case and the iPod can easily fit in your pocket :) Here is the link where I found the information and I cut and pasted their comparison. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/ipod/ipod-faq/differences-between-4th-gen-ipod-touch-3rd-gen-ipod-touch.html External Differences The first most noticeable difference between the iPod touch 3rd Gen and 4th Gen -- at least if the devices are side-by-side -- is that both lines have a multi-touch capable 3.5" display, but the 4th Gen devices have a much higher-resolution 960x640 (326 ppi) "Retina" display compared to a 320x480 (163 ppi) display in the model replaced. Second, one likely would notice that the iPod touch 4th Gen has two cameras -- a front-mounted camera designed to be used for video conferencing in conjunction with Apple's provided "FaceTime" software over a Wi-Fi network (it takes VGA quality photos and video up to 30 FPS) and a rear-mounted camera which supports HD video recording (720p up to 30 FPS with audio), and can take 960x720 still photos (roughly 0.7 megapixels). The iPod touch 3rd Gen, by contrast, has no cameras at all.
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I agree with W Yang, with the iphone your locks you into a 2 year contract for very slow internet connection, Steve Jobs himself said this at the release yesterday, that the wifi is a much faster system than what the iphone uses. to me the choice is easy over my current ipod video, larger touch screen, and wifi. i only need about 4gb of music so this will leave me 12gb for video podcasts and movies. and with the flash memory less parts to fail than with a hard drive. Oh and what about a camera, wheres the camera.....lol
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ya, I immediately noticed the weaker battery life in this model. That, and the lack of supporting docking charges are my main complaints/concerns. I understand that the accelerometer is probably using more battery life but COME ONE why does this thing drop down to half life within 4 hrs of use?? And it wouldn't be so bad If I could use my car charger with it, but nope, no compatibility. I'm not sure if this is something that can be corrected with firmware updates but Apple should really get on this.
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Thanks for the info. I ended up keeping my 1st gen & doing the upgrade for $10. I love it! After using it the speaker seems like it would be worthless & it is very easier to adjust the volume anyway.
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Hi there,i'd like to buy a new 8GB mp3, but, i'm confused between the new ipod nano and zune. people say that the 3rd gen nano has a great battery life now, but, i'm discouraged from transferring my music files to itunes and changing the format (i've been using windows media. so, they're mostly in .wma)Is it true that Zune's software is crippled?being an experienced useer, would you recommend zune or nano? =)thanks a bunch!!
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Jeremy, I would highly recommend getting a case and screen protector. The back of the iPod Touch is highly prone to scratches which make the device very unattractive and ultimately reduce its resale value as well. The screen is very scratch resistance, but it's still a good idea to cover it with a screen protector. Ideally, both should be on hand when he's ready to open the box. I would also recommend getting better earphones. The stock Apple earphones are pretty mediocre. Even the $10 Sony earphones I bought from WalMart give better performance than the stock Apple earphones. The dimensions of iPod Touch do differ from generation to generation. The 4th differs from previous gens, so cases meant for them won't work with it. All 4th gen. iPod Touches have the same dimensions, so a case meant for 8 GB unit will fit the 32 and 64 GB units as well.
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I does not work with anything newer than the ipod nano 3rd generation. I bought an ipod nano 4th gen but it did not work in the iGroove. I still use the 3rd generation keep it in the iGroove which is in my garage for when I work on projects love the player it sounds awesome.
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I have had the same problem since owning mine since 6/3/2007. After each time that I recharge/sync it the Nano will freeze, requiring a reset to get it working again. After that it will work fine each time I turn it on up until recharging/resyncing it again. This is rather annoying considering that I just upgraded from a 1st gen 2GB Nano to a 4GB 2nd gen.
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I am very happy with my 2GB Sansa. Just updated the firmware (very smooth application downloaded from Sandisk site). Sleek design, not as cool as Nano, but very close. Ubercool video which Nano doesn't have, which works surprisingly well. Bigger screen than Nano too. Micro SD slot a great plus. And it also works like a storage device, so you can take files with it, something Nano doesn't do. Go for the $129 (at time of writing) 4GB model.
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I bought a 4GB Nano 2 years ago because I only had 3GBs of music. Now I have 16GBs. Getting an iPod may give you the bug to listen to more music. With the ease of switching between songs and creating playlists, any mp3 player will drive you to experiment a little with your music taste. I also could not have cared less about the pictures or video (still don't) - but I got really into podcasts, and those take up space (if you like radio, check out podcasts - better quality, fewer interruptions). Bottom line - you will probably regret not spending the extra $50. The 80GB is a little more delicate than the nano (spinning hard drive vs. flash memory), but if you are just going to keep it at home it should not be an issue.
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Battery is not perfect, it is good and based on you usage, I think after I have upgraded my iPhone to the new software, both are lasting the same time. I do recommend that for you, with only one note, the software is SLOW, so you will have to wait a while after doing any command the phone to response. The box has, the phone, 2 battaries, headphone, pod and charger (USB)
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I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that.