ES8249s or the ES8109S? I am buying a Panasonic razor for my husband for christmas and I am trying to figure out if more people like the ES8249s or the ES8109S. Has anyone used both and prefiers one over the other? Do you like the 4 blades or the three blades better? ES8249s or the ES8109S? I am buying a Panasonic razor for my husband for christmas and I am trying to figure out if more people like the ES8249s or the ES8109S. Has anyone used both and prefiers... » Read More ES8249s or the ES8109S? I am buying a Panasonic razor for my husband for christmas and I am trying to figure out if more people like the ES8249s or the ES8109S. Has anyone used both and prefiers one over the other? Do you like the 4 blades or the three blades better? « Show Less
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I was wondering the same and also that given the fact that both have the same motor, I was wondering if the 4th blade would hit the overall performance. But since JR felt it even a bit quicker then all seems to be ok.Thanks both!+Alfredo
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the only difference is that the ES8243A has an extra blade. I think having the extra blade helps get those hair growing in tight areas around your neck. instead having to shave it numerous times, you get to do it twice maybe three times max. its twenty dollars more expensive too so if your skin isn't as sensitive as mine and you want to save a few bucks but still have a good shaver then i guess you should get the ES8103S
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Ditto on the other responses..... A great razor....blades last a long time!!
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They are a highly regarded blade on the shaving forums and are relatively inexpensive. It comes in a paper box and doesn't take up hardly any space at all. I think your best bet is to get a sample pack so you can try a lot of different blades and see which ones you like and which one you don't before making a purchase of 100 blades. You would be surprised at what works for YOU and what doesn't.
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I have used both the Miele and the Panasonic. I actually own a Panasonic. I could not see much difference between the Miele and the Panasonic as far as how well they cleaned. They look very similar. Perhaps the Miele is heavier than the Panasonic. For the difference in price, I would buy the Panasonic. I really like the one I have.
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Hi, I am also trying to research Panasonic shavers as an Xmas gift for my husband. I haven't researched the 8109 but I did research the 8243. You probably already know this but there's 8243A & 8243K. A=black model K=blue & silver model You can't replace the batteries in the 8243 unit because it's built in (I had read someone's feed back on it so I called Panasonic to verify). To change the battery, you have to send it to their one and only certified technicians at Appliance Sales & Service in San Francisco. (415-362-7195). I called and it's approx. $50 for the battery & labor according to the person I talked to. I'm assuming that it doesn't include shipping costs. The batteries are also built in on the 8249, LA63S & LA93K and would have to be sent to San Francisco too, according to the panasonic person. According to the Panasonic person, 8243, 8249, LA63S & LA93K are all made in Japan. I couldn't pin her down if any of them were made in China. As far as she could tell they're made in Japan. She referenced the year 2008 and couldn't tell me anything about 2009. (I had thought that someone had said something about having one made in China but I'm researched out at this point so it could have been for another brand of shaver). The only difference I could find between 8243 and 8249 was that the 8249 has the vortex hydra clean system. I still haven't figured out yet whether the hydra system is a good thing or not. 8249S = silver 8249K = black This is unrelated but I thought I'd mention that the expensive ESLA63S & ESLA93K don't have a quick 5 minute charge. There must be something I'm missing because what happens if it dies during a shave. It doesn't make sense to me that something that expensive would have less features than the 8243 & 8249 models The ESLA63S & ESLA93K have 2 motors which does make it louder according to the panasonic person but is suppose to give a better and quicker shave.
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after reading the ansewr, i'm still can't understand what is the real difrent between the philips 1090 and 1090x and 1090xd. if u can plz help me to select one of them. and i found the jet cleaner is good option but it does't come with any one of them. so should i select from the old modle 1060 becouse it has jet cleaner or i have to buy the latest as 1090. i have sensetive skin, and i would like to shave every day. which on can help me. my e-mail addres btraifi@hotmail.com best regards bader
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3 piece razor. Little bit more difficult loading the blade than some where it is 3 piece. If you want a very easy razor to load I'd recommend a Parker butterfly razor. But the 3 piece razor is easier to clean out. If your a beginner and worried about cutting yourself go with a butterfly or 2 piece. But if you want a razor that will last a very long time get a 3 piece. Hope this helps!
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The review that I read and helped me make my decision stated that the AT30 was a better smoother shaver for the money difference. My husband has commented several times how smooth it is and how much he likes it and he has had several shavers from mid to top of the line. Hope this helps.
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This was the information left by philips support team: Rachel : Hello Deepak, welcome to Philips Consumer Lifestyle. My name is Rachel. I have received your question. Thank you for contacting us. Deepak: what are differencies between Philips Norelco arcitec 1090, 1090x and 1090xd or are these the same type? Rachel : I am glad to assist you and appreciate your interest in our products. Deepak: I am confused to select in between these 3 types Rachel : I would like to inform you that the 1090X and 1090X are the one and the same. Deepak: what abt 1090 Rachel : 1090XD is the derivative model which can be found only in the departmental stores. Rachel : 1090X and the 1090 are the one and the same. Deepak: u mean X and XD are one and the same Deepak: k Deepak: what is derivative model what extra features it has. Rachel : However, the charge time and the shave time of all the razors are one and the same. Deepak: I am not a daily shaver but shave every 4days Deepak: so looking at value of money which is best 1050CC,1060 and 1090 Rachel : All the 3 Arcitec Razors produce 65 minutes of shaving for One hour charging. Rachel : The major differences between these models are Jet clean and charge system, battery capacity and Shaving minutes remaining indicator and the color the razors come in. Deepak: and mostly i can find difference between 1050cc and 1090 is jet clearner Rachel : The Arcitec 1060X and 1090X models have premium silver finish and carbon fiber premium exterior respectively. All the features of 1060X and 1090X are same. Deepak: I am from Asia and my beard hair is bit ruff Rachel : Deepak, I would like to inform you that all the Norelco razors come with lift and cut technology that cuts the hair 20 micron beneath the skin. Hence all the Norelco razors give the same close shave. Deepak: k Deepak: thanks a lot its so help full to decide I am not interested in look and feel so I dnt prefer X
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I also have the es8103 and the blades did fit correctly on the shaver. However, I did not feel the blades were any sharper/better then my 2.5yr old blades.
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I've been blade shaving for as long as I've been shaving (I'm 68 yrs old). I tried a few electrics but I never got the close/clean feel of a blade. I also used a Mach 3 but will have to disagree with you about the inexpensive blades. That's one of the reasons that I decided to give this wet/dry a try. Being total honest I don't think it gives as close of a shave as a blade but by the same token it dosen't remove as much skin either. As far as cost, I have owned my wet/dry since Dec. 09 and I just replaced the foil and blades at a cost of 50+ dollars. It helped a little speeding up my shaving time but I think the old foil and blades could have gone a few more months. I don't think your thinking is wrong it's just that everyone's different and has their own opinion. Watever works best for you is right.
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This is a very important question as it relates to worth of this razor. The best I can answer you is that it certainly does as good as multi-blade razors and if you prep correctly it does a much better job.
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Hi Paul, I am sorry but I can't help. The model number of my Panasonic razor is different. Surely the Panasonic web-site could help match up your razor with the proper foil and blade number. Get the number then shop for the best price. Good luck. Lou E
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I started using one in October 2014. It's February 2016, and I'm getting ready to switch to the second one. Like any razor, these will be super smooth at first, then go through a break-in period after a week or so. If you can put up with being careful with it for a couple of weeks, it becomes smooth again. More pressure required than a new blade, but you won't cut yourself like when it was three weeks old. I generally get 12 to 24 months out of one. Saves lots of money.
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It was not normal with my ES8109. My razor is 3 plus years old and I just recently replaced the foil and that was not because of a hole. I replaced the blades and foil combo to get a better shave. It shaves like new.
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I agree. It's very noisy. Much more so than previous Panasonics and Braun. Also, for me it did not shave well, wet or dry. Another problem is that the shaver heads get HOT and uncomfortable, soon after you start shaving.