is this just as good as the crosman optimus .177 just with a different caliber. Or does the caliber effect it?
2019560
I like the .22 caliber as it has more power and impact if going for varmints. Can take out racoonsnand similar sized critters.
2019561
I don't know about the .177 but it certainly has a enough power to do what an air gun should do....it takes a while to site it in but powerful!!
2019562
.22 larger, so slower. But packs more punch. Would you rather be hit by a very fast pebble, or a fast rock?
2019563
.22 is slower but hits a lot harder. You will need to fire hundreds of rounds to break in the rifle & temperature has an impact on groupings.i.e. sighting in the rifle @ 80 degrees F will not yield the same group as shooting when it's 40 degrees F.
2019564
My .177 shoots 1225 fps with light alloy pellets, 1000 fps with 7.0 gr lead pellets. As advertised! It is awesome. This one is advertised to get 950 fps with alloy, and probably 800 fps with light lead pellets. While slower, the pellets weigh about 2X what the .177 do, so it hits harder! I would expect the .22 to be every bit as accurate and awesome as the .177, and either will kill small to medium size game.
2019565
I have notOwned the Optimus in .177 caliber. I have hit crows at over 50 yards no problem with the .22 Optimus. If you sight in the scope that it comes with, you should have no problem shooting 1 inch patterns at over 50 yards. The .22 does shoot 200 fps lower than the .177. There are a lot of factors that affect accuracy. One factor on accuracy is pellet quality. Cheap pellets have less accuracy than ones that are better quality. I have tried the hollow point, super point, and the destroyer pellets. They are all good pellets. If you are looking for accuracy just use on type of pellet and sight your scope in at about 35 yards. The rifle has a lot of power! I have notOwned the Optimus in .177 caliber. I have hit crows at over 50 yards no problem with the .22 Optimus. If you sight in the scope that it comes with, you should have no problem shooting 1 inch patterns at over 50 yards. The .22 does shoot 200 fps lower than the .177. There are a lot of factors that affect accuracy. One factor on accuracy is pellet quality. Cheap pellets have less accuracy than ones that are better quality. I have tried the hollow point, super point, and the destroyer pellets. They are all good pellets. If you are looking for accuracy just use on type of pellet... » Read More I have notOwned the Optimus in .177 caliber. I have hit crows at over 50 yards no problem with the .22 Optimus. If you sight in the scope that it comes with, you should have no problem shooting 1 inch patterns at over 50 yards. The .22 does shoot 200 fps lower than the .177. There are a lot of factors that affect accuracy. One factor on accuracy is pellet quality. Cheap pellets have less accuracy than ones that are better quality. I have tried the hollow point, super point, and the destroyer pellets. They are all good pellets. If you are looking for accuracy just use on type of pellet and sight your scope in at about 35 yards. The rifle has a lot of power! « Show Less
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Crosman Destroyer is a brand of .177 pellets, and this gun is designed for the use of only .177 BBs....You COULD insert a custom steel rifled barrel, and muzzle load pellets that you would have to roll the skirt... AKA no, it's only a BB shooter...But i'd suggest getting the 6" as they are the same price and the bigger one gets better FPS, is more accurate & has a recessed barrel, the 2.5 has a obvious barrel.
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I use the .20 gram 6mm precision bbs by crosman - they are biodegradable and are accurate and work great. Never had any problem with them.
2057690
It's the standard BB.... .177 caliber. (At nearly 500fps, you won't need anything bigger.)
477268
The brass shark works very well without jamming your rifle. I know of no alternative that works as well! It is however bulky and pretty heavy. On the other hand, the Caldwell brass catcher that I bought caused jamming and flat out doesn't work. Bulk and weight is not much problem at the range. Go with the shark. In the fiield use reload ammo on its last load!! Just kidding. In the field get used to picking up your spent brass. Hope that helps
779530
I'm not sure if it's mentioned in the description or statistics of the weapon but it does take a considerable amount of strength to cock this weapon. The .177 cal. Is a lot easier. Look up this weapon on its website and that might help you better. I enjoy shooting mine. Good luck!
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I personally love the Burris Mac. No problem with it yet. Put about 1000 rounds through my .556. I like the fact that I can also use it as a red dot and switch to long distance. Also if battery dies you can still see the reticle. No need for back up sights. Hope this helps.
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Jeff, I live in a mid size college area in a townhouse style apartment with two other townhouse units directly attached and houses on both sides of the complex. The noise level was a chief concern of mine as well. I can say that the .22 cal model of this gun is slightly quieter than the .177 that my roommate has. So far, I have not gotten any complaints. However, if you dry fire the gun, it is loud enough to warrant a complaint, but loaded with a pellet, it seems to be a "suburb friendly" toy in regards to the noise level.
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I would say yes to all 3 questions. When I first got the gun it was pretty loud. For one thing, the pellets that came with it were high speed and broke the sound barrier; so there was a pretty loud crack comparable to a 22 long. After it breaks in at about 100 rounds it quiets considerably, and a subsonic pellet will get rid of the crack, and will be a lot more accurate. When a tiny round like a .177 goes supersonic it gets bounced around by the shock wave pretty good. The only downside I can think of on this rifle is it's a tad on the heavy side when compared to others in it's class and price range. I actually like that because I think a little mass makes the gun more accurate and reduces the recoil. Believe it or not, these high powered pellet guns actually do have a pretty noticeable kick. As far as quietness goes after it's broken in, I'd say it's about like the sound a tablespoon would make when dropped on a wooden table from about 12 inches.
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Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I sent my bone collector back because I had good Hawke optics (check them out, real nice lenses, just get one rated for airguns) ... well long story short this thing was shooting randomly with real bad groupings, I'm talking 6 inches at 25 yds. If you can still send it back, look at the Crosman offerings, I got a cheaper crosman springer that was deadly accurate with the same scope.
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The pellet pistol is a S2-1 made by Industry Brand at the Shanghai Air Gun Factory. It will fire american pellets. 5.5mm. is the same as .22 caliber. Also if you ever get a pellet gun in 4.5mm. it's the same as .177 caliber. Wal-Mart has pellets but not many in .22 cal. Bass Pro Shop has plenty. All lead flat nose wadcutters or competition pellets are the most consistent and accurate. Crosman or Gamo are good. I shoot a lot of RWS but they're expensive. This gun is not real accurate but at 10 meters after adjusting the rear sight and using a little Kentucky windage you can hit a 12"x12" paper target more times than not. That's good for $25 . Good shooting. Tim savannah,Ga. The pellet pistol is a S2-1 made by Industry Brand at the Shanghai Air Gun Factory. It will fire american pellets. 5.5mm. is the same as .22 caliber. Also if you ever get a pellet gun in 4.5mm. it's the same as .177 caliber. Wal-Mart has pellets but not many in .22 cal. Bass Pro Shop has plenty. All lead flat nose wadcutters or competition pellets are the most consistent and accurate. Crosman or Gamo are good. I shoot a lot of RWS but they're expensive. This gun is not real accurate but at 10 meters after adjusting the rear sight and using a little Kentucky windage you can hit a... » Read More The pellet pistol is a S2-1 made by Industry Brand at the Shanghai Air Gun Factory. It will fire american pellets. 5.5mm. is the same as .22 caliber. Also if you ever get a pellet gun in 4.5mm. it's the same as .177 caliber. Wal-Mart has pellets but not many in .22 cal. Bass Pro Shop has plenty. All lead flat nose wadcutters or competition pellets are the most consistent and accurate. Crosman or Gamo are good. I shoot a lot of RWS but they're expensive. This gun is not real accurate but at 10 meters after adjusting the rear sight and using a little Kentucky windage you can hit a 12"x12" paper target more times than not. That's good for $25 . Good shooting. Tim savannah,Ga. « Show Less
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im not sure about the power difference between the .22 and .177, it must be because the mass is greater with the .22. The .22 shoots through 2 layers of dry wall, so i guess its powerful for an air gun.
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I have one on an AR-15 and one on a .223 bolt action. I know it is not the same, but holds on both guns. Much more kick on the bolt action. I have yet to test it on my 7mm magnum, but I have yet to be disappointed with a single product UTG puts out.
606642
You are better with the 22 caliber. This is an excellent product. Two of my friends have purchased the air rifle after using mine.
858880
You'll put some serious "pock-marks" in it if you shoot it with the .223. Get a gong, they're more robust and can handle the higher velosity rifle rounds.
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it shot only .177 stainless steel BB's, this is not a toy, the airsoft ammo will not fit this Gun, and it is a powerfull BB gun,!!!!!! not airsoft!!!!!
920822
What caliber are you shooting? Don't know the FPS of my pellets, but I shoot a .177 Benjamin Marauder PCP Air rifle (stock, not enhanced) at my littls spinner target. It's about 25 yds away and I'm shooting JSB Diabolo EXACT .177 Caliber Air Gun Pellets - 8.44 gr pellets. These pellts spin and reset the target just fine. Now, I also have the larger spinning target, .made for 22 cal. These .177 pellets won't spin those bigger paddles. And my .22 and .25 Marauders spin the large target paddle and spin the small target paddles like crazy, but I don't know how long the little spinning paddles would last with the bigger pellets striking them - so I only shoot my .177 at the smaller spinner. But like I said, my .177 can spin the small paddles all day long. Hope this helps. Bobby