30 vs 60 frames per second I always thought the human eye could detect no more than 30 frames/sec. Am I missing something, or what's the point of 60fps?
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Thank you David Simon for your in depth analysis. It sucks that the Zi8 doesn't have it's standard definition also set at 60 fps for my liking since I will not be burning any footage to Blu Ray anytime soon and will be burning to DVD. Sure it's great watching 720p on a High Def TV by connecting to HDMI, but eventually the data will be sent to my hardrive for safe keeping and burning a DVD copy to play on a stand alone player is key for me. For sure though, I'll be using the 720p @ 60fps mode in the near future, ( when I get a Blu-Ray writer, or when I get a high end comp that can handle Hi Def video editing) until then SD quality for me lol. Thank you David Simon for your in depth analysis. It sucks that the Zi8 doesn't have it's standard definition also set at 60 fps for my liking since I will not be burning any footage to Blu Ray anytime soon and will be burning to DVD. Sure it's great watching 720p on a High Def TV by connecting to HDMI, but eventually the data will be sent to my hardrive for safe keeping and burning a DVD copy to play on a stand alone player is key for me. For sure though, I'll be using the 720p @ 60fps mode in the near future, ( when I get a Blu-Ray writer, or when I get a high end comp that can handle Hi... » Read More Thank you David Simon for your in depth analysis. It sucks that the Zi8 doesn't have it's standard definition also set at 60 fps for my liking since I will not be burning any footage to Blu Ray anytime soon and will be burning to DVD. Sure it's great watching 720p on a High Def TV by connecting to HDMI, but eventually the data will be sent to my hardrive for safe keeping and burning a DVD copy to play on a stand alone player is key for me. For sure though, I'll be using the 720p @ 60fps mode in the near future, ( when I get a Blu-Ray writer, or when I get a high end comp that can handle Hi Def video editing) until then SD quality for me lol. « Show Less
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Now, that, spending more money on the camcorder instead of the transfer, makes a lot of sense, since the connotation is that is would be far less costly. As I'm sure you know, the worst phrase to use on a shoot is "We'll fix it in post." Thank you for your comments; all this info is really helping!Any suggestions as to what con or prosumer camera (keeping in mind cost, of course) to use? I am not married to any one brand as the tech is fairly similar between them all, I would think, but there are advantages to some, I;m sure.
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If you are planning to do a transfer to film, which is preferable, 1080/30, 720/60, or 720/30?
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Replaying at 60fps wouldn't make a big difference from 30fps. But being to record at 60fps can be very handy in some situations such as recording a fast moving child.
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I may have some details wrong, but I think minimum for motion is 18 fps, film is 24 fps, normal television 30fps. 60fps will just seem a little smoother (also depends on shutter speed). BUT with 60fps you can do much better slow motion, and you can resample to 24fps.
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That's actually what I use it for most. Games like Battlefield, Call Of Duty, Titanfall, the games with which you would notice lag the most, and I can honestly tell you I do not notice any lag. I know the lag that reviewers are speaking of when it comes to games, I also have a slightly older 50" JVC LED on which you can definitely notice lag time between control input and on-screen movement.
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the game might be locked to 30 fps. might wanna google that or check the game video options. if you're recording video that might also lock your frames.
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Have used it for 3 weeks seen no motion blur. In fact 60hz is preferred if you don't want that soap opera look that can be seen in the new Hobbit film.
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Hz refers to the screen refresh rate. 120 hz means that the screen is "refreshed" 120 frames per second. 240 hz refreshes the screen at the rate of 240 frames per second. The purpose of the increased hz is to smooth out picture motion. The step up from the low-end refresh rate of 60 hz to 120 hz can often be noticeable, especially with fast-moving sports events. However, I can't tell any difference in going from 120 hz to 240 hz---I know that there is a difference; it's just that my old eyes can't tell the difference! Hope this helps.Charles
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You are very misinformed Watcher. 120hz refers to the panel refresh rate and whether you are watching 30fps video or 24fps movies it still relies on the 120hz refresh rate to display images. As JVAN has shared with us, Plasma TVs don't rely on that technology, it's an LCD thing.
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Dear Customer : This cam can record as 30 FPS.Thanks. Best regards Sincerely THG Limited
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Motion blur is a very subjective thing. Everyone seems to look at it differently. In my opinion, TV's that are built for a standard refresh rate (60hz) are generally the most consistent to how they deal with motion blur, because it's a well established standard, so everyone designs for it. If you're using a non-standard refresh rate (say 120hz), then the software has to deal with modifying the input, and you have some sort of conversion going on. I've seen TV's that look *terrible* even on simple camera pan's, because they use a non-standard refresh rate and the software deals with it poorly. On the other hand, the owner of that TV swears it looks great (maybe because he shelled out $$$ for it). The absolute best thing you can do is to see it in person. That's really the only way you can tell if it's going to work for you or not. Partially as well it depends on TV settings and input source (and settings), so this is something that can be really difficult to figure out before you pull the trigger on your purchase. Fortunately Amazon does have a good return policy, so the best thing may be to buy it, try it, and return it if you don't like it.
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You can preview the program in full screen I'm not sure though if its 30 or 60 fps. There's very minimal lag time for the preview so you shouldn't have any problems with that, although I'm sure it depends on your computer. I haven't had any problems with the delay of input in the preview.
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I believe that it only outputs 60Hz refresh rate which is more than the human eye can pickup, so you don't really need more than that.
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If you look at your game when you play, it is running at 60hz only. I think it has to do with the PS3 output capabilities.
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That's a good question. I didn't realize it until i saw it myself this evening. But yeah it's only 60Hz. I'm disappointed in this.
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Hey! 1. There is definitely a considerable increase in quality between 60i and 60p, especially if you are using the camera to shoot movies. For example, for me, I usually add CG elements into my film since I enjoy making short films, and that does not necessarily sit well with 60i footage. The interlacing can cause weird artifacts especially while I'm compositing shots. The more lateral (horizontal) movement you have, the greater the quality of 60i depreciates compared to 60p. However, as much as I hate interlaced footage, i would stress that you consider what you use your camera for. If it is for straightforward home movies or other casual recordings, then you are FINE! You wouldn't necessarily appreciate or find as great a jump in quality. 2. I'm not going to pretend that I have expert knowledge on this. Your point seems valid. However, RAW bit rate is not always an accurate measure of video quality. And keep in mind that for both cases the bit rate corresponds to bits per second, and if there are 60 frames in a second, interlaced or not, each frame contains the same amount of data, with this data being either interpolated in the interlaced case, or actually captured in the progressive case. 60p at 28Mbps would look better than 60i at 25Mbps 3. You would think so right? However, due to standards that were set in the film industry back in the old days, and the reluctance of the industry to let go of these standards, 24fps is what most movies you watch in theaters are recorded/playing at. In essence it is what makes movies look like movies. Usually just after a glance you can tell whether any playing video is a movie or a TV show; It is because you are subconsciously used to movies looking like they do, i.e. at 24fps. Hence, for a short film maker like myself, 24fps mode is a huge plus! I hope i answered your questions, or at least did so partly. Cheers!
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A ps3 gets 30fps. You're better off getting any cheap monitor for that, this one is beyond overkill and you won't get the full benefits of a 1ms 144hz (144fps) monitor.
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there is a selectable scale of continuous shooting speeds, from 1fps over the duration of 30s (or it will stop sooner if you release the shutter button), up to 40fps within 1s. Your choices are 1fps, 3fps, 5fps, 7fps, 10fps, 15fps, 30fps, and 40fps. I think a lot of people who like photographing sports would disagree with your statement about the utility of 40fps, even with the 30 picture cap. I'm also surprised you think the Sony has a better feature set. I think you'd get more regular use out of longer battery life, slow motion video, and shutter/aperture priority modes than you would out of optical video zoom and panarama shooting.
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As the others have noted, the box states 60HZ. I can say that I've run much hi-def content, with no discernible motion blur above and beyond what you'd typically expect from an LCD screen. I haven't gamed however, but I've had the monitor since September of 2012 and it's been rock solid for my purposes.
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220 hz minimises Motion blur for high speed video action , ie football, games etc. i did not do a side by side, but talked to tech heads at my office who said the difference was negligable, but present. For my money- I went with 240 hz for best processing capability. Research on line for technical info