visited BB to check 50g10...but found it darker :( I was looking at samsung 50b650 and 50g10 side by side and found the sammy look attractive and panny look dull/darker. But as per my research, i found that g10 is the way to go with regards to PQ.Anybody clarifies it ?Also, we our living room is seperated by a glass door and we generally keep the blinds open all the time which would keep the room bright because of sunlight. Would G10 be good for this room with out any glare/reflection issues? visited BB to check 50g10...but found it darker :( I was looking at samsung 50b650 and 50g10 side by side and found the sammy look attractive and panny look dull/darker. But as per my... » Read More visited BB to check 50g10...but found it darker :( I was looking at samsung 50b650 and 50g10 side by side and found the sammy look attractive and panny look dull/darker. But as per my research, i found that g10 is the way to go with regards to PQ.Anybody clarifies it ?Also, we our living room is seperated by a glass door and we generally keep the blinds open all the time which would keep the room bright because of sunlight. Would G10 be good for this room with out any glare/reflection issues? « Show Less
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I had the same question about the G10. I asked the BB guy and he said for some reason the stores try to sell the LCDs more and the G10 was set at a less bright setting, appearing less attractive to a buyer (??). He also changed the setting to VIVID and the PQ looked as bright as anything else. I did a lot of research online and both G10 and G15 are hands down the best plasma for the money, if you care about true picture quality and not just think brighter is better. I'm monitoring the price of G15 to order mine.
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I have the 50g15 (same as g10, just cosmetically different) and it is plenty bright in custom mode and vivid is enough to scorch your eye balls
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I found the G10 to be brighter in the store, but of course it was playing a Blue Ray. However, in my research, I found that the G10 actually puts out more light than a typical plasma, therefore better picture in a bright room. The TV may have been playing in THX mode which is dimmer and supposed to be played on that setting in a dark room...ex. at night watching a movie to simulate theater color. During the day, play the G10 at the Custom color setting. I dont have mine yet. It arrives tomorrow and will be located in a brighter room, so hope all works out!
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You would have glare and reflections from sunlight coming into the room just like with old CRTs but the G10 would be a better TV overall. Just keep the blinds half closed.
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You can't judge picture quality side by side to another TV in a STORE!!!!You don't know if the Samsung was cranked up on vivid while the Panny was in THX mode, you just can't tell what it would look like in your home setting. Also, random shoppers looking for a TV think "oooooh this one is really bright! I'll take it", disregarding the fact that bright/vivid does not equal 'good'.
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I think Justin's settings are fine and that the key is high contrast, low brightness and I keep my settings just around where Justin's are too. I have my color set down to around 31 and sharpness very low, energy setting at medium.There's several settings at the www.avsforum.com for this tv
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Yes, I now agree with you. I was in Best Buy today and was comparing the Sony to the others and I must say the Sony was a standout. The Sharp was kinda of washed out and very pixeli (is that a word?) while the Sony was very bright and crisp in ever kind of action.The Glare was much less noticeable then the Sharp even, but to be sure the TV are in the back of the store and I had to make sure to get the Large overhead lights to reflect in the screen to compare the TV for glare.I have decided to go with the Sony.Thanks everyone for all your input to my question. Yes, I now agree with you. I was in Best Buy today and was comparing the Sony to the others and I must say the Sony was a standout. The Sharp was kinda of washed out and very pixeli (is that a word?) while the Sony was very bright and crisp in ever kind of action.The Glare was much less noticeable then the Sharp even, but to be sure the TV are in the back of the store and I had to make sure to get the Large overhead lights to reflect in the screen to compare the TV for glare.I have decided to go with the Sony.Thanks everyone for all your input to my... » Read More Yes, I now agree with you. I was in Best Buy today and was comparing the Sony to the others and I must say the Sony was a standout. The Sharp was kinda of washed out and very pixeli (is that a word?) while the Sony was very bright and crisp in ever kind of action.The Glare was much less noticeable then the Sharp even, but to be sure the TV are in the back of the store and I had to make sure to get the Large overhead lights to reflect in the screen to compare the TV for glare.I have decided to go with the Sony.Thanks everyone for all your input to my question. « Show Less
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There are a few differences between the various Sammy 40" LCDs. Some may not be so important to most: such as, styling; side mount speakers vs bottom; some have Game Mode, which Samsung says speeds up vdeo processing; but the most important diff between them (and probably the one that leads to the price diff) is contrast ratio. As an example the cheaper of them, the 4041 has 3000:1, and the 4096 has 6000:1. BIG DIFFERENCE. The others fall somewhere in between.
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Hey Donald, I just replied to you on another one of these discussions and will do likewise on this one. Regarding the viewing angle, do any other 8 series owners think it... well... sucks? If I move so much as 5 degrees one way or another, the colors (particularly the blacks) start to fade. Wondering if this is one of the concessions for the 8 series' slim profile.
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Interesting comments. If the wiki article is right, TCL isn't such a "no name" brand after all - I live in the midwest and I have heard of RCA. They were a lot bigger in the days when tube tv's were really big, they sorta got quiet in the LCD/plasma revolution. But anyway, if TCL == RCA, I might end up choosing this TV. Target & BB have a Samsung this size on Black Fri for 328$, and it looks like Toshibas and Samsungs this size in general are the deal at 320ish this year - an extra fifty bucks off for the TCL is almost enough for a bluray player to go with it on Black Fri (yep, really). =) Interesting comments. If the wiki article is right, TCL isn't such a "no name" brand after all - I live in the midwest and I have heard of RCA. They were a lot bigger in the days when tube tv's were really big, they sorta got quiet in the LCD/plasma revolution. But anyway, if TCL == RCA, I might end up choosing this TV. Target & BB have a Samsung this size on Black Fri for 328$, and it looks like Toshibas and Samsungs this size in general are the deal at 320ish this year - an extra fifty bucks off for the TCL is almost enough for a bluray player to go with it on Black Fri (yep,... » Read More Interesting comments. If the wiki article is right, TCL isn't such a "no name" brand after all - I live in the midwest and I have heard of RCA. They were a lot bigger in the days when tube tv's were really big, they sorta got quiet in the LCD/plasma revolution. But anyway, if TCL == RCA, I might end up choosing this TV. Target & BB have a Samsung this size on Black Fri for 328$, and it looks like Toshibas and Samsungs this size in general are the deal at 320ish this year - an extra fifty bucks off for the TCL is almost enough for a bluray player to go with it on Black Fri (yep, really). =) « Show Less
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I did a side by side comparison at Best Buy in their calibrated Magnolia center. They also had Samsung's flagship LED HDTV from 2013 right beside it (the one I originally intended to purchase.). There was no comparison, the VT just looked better in the dark room. Blacks were truly black with no noticeable light bleed like there was from the LED. The F8500 looked good as well, but the VT won me over. The white level is fine in my living room where I have it wall mounted. It's not in direct sunlight, but the overall picture quality is nice even in moderate lighting.
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nothing. it costs 3 hundred more for being slim. Asthetically it looks beautiful but it's got the same specs as 650 & 750. The frame around the tv is slimmer and that's about it. i was leaning towards 850/860 but when i saw 650/750, it's not worth spending 300 more. Once you hang the tv, it does not matter if it's 2 inches slim or 10 inches. The pq is same and awsome on 6/7/8 series. The choice is yours!!!good luck.
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Thanks to both of you. I have about decided on the 50G10, but it will be about a month or six weeks before I move on it so it will be interesting to see what happens to the price. I just hope we don't get a rave review from CU like the Sammy A650 did, or the price will probably increase.Thanks again. lYou both helped make up my mind.
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"...more glare than other models..." - Does this mean that the one sheet of glass results in more glare than for Panasonic's other models that don't have the one sheet glass design - or are your referring to other maker's models? Just trying to clarify.I'm a Panasonic fan. - Used to always buy Sony, but they got too involved in low end products, and it seems to have affected their other products as well.
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I went with the 4661F mainly because of the non-glare screen. I looked at them both, side-by-side in the store at Best Buy in full daylight and the 4665 was just too reflective and distractive, like looking into a mirror. So what if it has a better contrast ratio. It's really negligible unless you are a videophile geek with superhuman bionic vision who can really distinguish between contrast blacks. And for the money, the 4661F is the better deal. Easiest choice I have ever made buying a television and couldn't be happier.
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b640 is exclusive to bestbuy. there isnt a chin on the b640 and it also has charcoal-greyish touch of color instead of the red. also, the b640 has an ultraclear screen while the b630 has a semi-matte screen. matte is better for high amounts of light in a room while i think ultraclear provides better color and contrast. some think ultraclear has too much glare, others disagree so it really depends on you.
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I do not like the term Matte screen because it implies that the screen on the 630 is not clear but hazy or something.The 630 has a clear panel and the 650 has a ultra clear panel.If you look at the samsung web site is says a Ultra clear panel "Absorbs aimbiet light and virtually eliminates reflections" this makes it sound like it is not high gloss which is the reverse of everyone telling you it is a high gloss screen.The probem comes from the fact the contrast ratio is 80,000 to 1 on the 630 and 100,000 to 1 on the 650.This is a 25% higher number which means that the light and dark colors will have more" contrast".A mirror is just a piece of glass coated with a relaective surfuce on one side.The thicker the coating the more the mirror will reflect.If you are willing to spend the money for the 650 I would not worry about the so called high gloss screen.Maybe if you watching it outdoors or in a room that you can't control the light but this will not be a probem for most home use.
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I got the b650 for 999 (in store only) at fry's, so it was much cheaper then the the b630 (don't go on sale as much). Actually I got it at 1199 and they dropped the price, so I got the discount a week later. I like the shiny screen, so yes, the color on the 650 is better if you have no reflection. If you have lots of windows then maybe the 630, but I don't think it is a big deal. The 630 looks amost like the cheaper sony v5100, so you might as well just get that. I spent a lot of time at the store looking at these. Your eyes will be your judgement and my eyes liked the 650 more. Spec different: 650 is 100,000 vs 630 80,000 dynamic contrast ratio.
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Hello. I am almost close to selecting KDL52V4100. All you owners of the TV, would u know if the screen has matte finish? I wanted to see this TV in BB but could not find it. so I havent seen it. I have seen SHARP and LG HDTVs and they have excellent matte finish. Can you please tell me how is screen finish for this SONY TV ?
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I had a lnt52a750 for two weeks before I bought my kdl52xbr9. Here is what I like and dislike for both: lnt52a750 has better black, higher contrast, and better back light uniformity. However, I turned down the back light to fit my viewing condition led to losing details in dark region. This leads to eye fatigue. I tried to lower the brightness to bring in the shadow details, and I lost the deep black and 3-D look. Instead, Sony does better job in this area for shadow details. If you'd watch this TV in bright room, you may not run into this problem since you will probably set the back light to very high. However, the glossy surface on Samsung will make you suffer from letting it sit in bright room. XBR9 has really poor back light uniformity. You'll notice this when it is displaying mid-range gray (not black), very badly. However, I do not care much about this since majority of scenes are too busy to make this noticeable. I returned the Samsung and keep the XBR9.
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A lot of the new (2009) samsungs have buzzing issues. I tried two pn50b650's and they both buzzed. They also had faint horizontal white lines that were cleary visible when watching a dark movie. If you choose Samsung be sure to buy it from someone that you are able to return it to.