unc7000 vs unc8000 Even though the 2010 8000 series isn't available on Amazon yet, does anyone know the difference between the 7000 and 8000 models? Also has Samsung given up on local dimming LED tv's? All of the 2010 models are edge lit. The unb8500 got great reviews, but I'm still a bit concerned about the model being discontinued. unc7000 vs unc8000 Even though the 2010 8000 series isn't available on Amazon yet, does anyone know the difference between the 7000 and 8000 models? Also has Samsung given up on... » Read More unc7000 vs unc8000 Even though the 2010 8000 series isn't available on Amazon yet, does anyone know the difference between the 7000 and 8000 models? Also has Samsung given up on local dimming LED tv's? All of the 2010 models are edge lit. The unb8500 got great reviews, but I'm still a bit concerned about the model being discontinued. « Show Less
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Looks like we're down to $2,669.99 for the C7000. Do I hear $2499 again? Total with 3D Blu-Ray player and 3D Kit is $3028.99.
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I've auditioned the C8000 for 3 weeks now....and... I am very disappointed.Off axis viewing sucks big time, blooming is still present, picture loos washed at times and the remote is awful ... returning this TV (thank God for 30 day $ back policy ) and waiting for the Panasonic VT-25 and the Sony HX/LX series to arrive soon.
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A. Leetham,Thanks for the info, it was very helpful. Based on your informative review of the C7000, I've decided to hold off on purchasing the C7000 until I read your review of the C8000, and until I have a chance to see it in person. Plus, I want to take advantage of the free 3D Starter Kit that Samsung is supposed to be offering soon.By chance, do you know when the C8000 will be available for purchase?Thanks!
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"although the UNB8500 exhibited no blooming whatsoever unless it was being viewed directly from the side"Inaccurate statement. I own 2 8500's over the past 3 months amd both have blooimg issues. But I all has to do with contrast and brightness settings. I like the brighter look with bright whites and black blacks. So with a high contrast and low brightness to achive this look, I will get blooming, which I live with because I get the overall picture I want.You can tone down the blooming with a lower constrast and higher brightness, if you don't ming a dueler look.
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thanks, those links were very interesting to read. I am looking forward to learning more about how the new edgelit/quasi local dimming technology from samsung actually affects picture quality.
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Yep, it was under $2500 yesterday and earlier this morning... Soon as they get more in, the price will go back under $2500. In a few months, it'll be under $2K...
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That is exactly my plan. I am glad you got just what you wanted. I have been watching pricing on 5 or 6 tvs for 6 months or so. The least expensive I have seen the 7000 for is yesterdays $1220 at Amazon. And you got the 8000 for $1000? That is an incredible price! Do you mind my asking where you purchased it? Thanks also for the feedback on the similarity between the 7000 and the 8000. Good luck. Steve
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I don't know how much help I can be but I'll give it a shot. I bought the Samsung because I own a Samsung LCD 46" bought in '08. I was quite happy with that TV so I stuck with the Samsung brand. I really think the 46" has a better picture than the 65" LED. Could be because of a consequential loss of picture clarity that comes with larger screen sizes. The UN65 has a dual core processor but if you're really into "smart," I recommend the quad core (more money of course). I subscribe to NFL game replays and they won't load well (and therefore can't view) with the dual core; I have to use my quad core computer. I think the UN has a really reasonable price, but you generally get what you pay for (as the old saying goes). Bottom line . . . I like the UN65 but, at the same time, I am a little disappointed. The only way you'll ever know is to look at them side-by-side and remember, showrooms do not have real-life broadcasts (in most instances) so when you get one home, your picture may not be a great as in the showroom. Hope this helps somewhat and good luck!
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I did a side by side comparison at Best Buy in their calibrated Magnolia center. They also had Samsung's flagship LED HDTV from 2013 right beside it (the one I originally intended to purchase.). There was no comparison, the VT just looked better in the dark room. Blacks were truly black with no noticeable light bleed like there was from the LED. The F8500 looked good as well, but the VT won me over. The white level is fine in my living room where I have it wall mounted. It's not in direct sunlight, but the overall picture quality is nice even in moderate lighting.
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I have not been in the TV market for over a year. Since I first wrote the review, I switched over to top-of-the-line plasma technology. The picture on the Samsung 64" that I purchased is FAR superior to the Elite, and at a much lower price point. While plasma is said to be the older, dying technology, I have discovered that LED's with 'local dimming' simply can not match what plasmas can still do. I wish that I had discovered that sooner, as the Samsung is far less expensive.
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yeah... thats the edge lit LED. These sets have been discontinued by Samsung and a rumoured 9 series is on its way. Either way, if you go the LED route, it should have local dimming, like Samsungs 8500. There are also a few LGs and I believe a SONY that has it. But probably all future LED sets that come out will use this tech. so you will just have to play the waiting game. but i'm sure the cost will be higher. i think this plasma would be "good enough" (a relative term as this set is probably better than 98% of the sets out there!). and a heck of a lot cheaper!
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I found this review on cnet... it doesn't call out every LED/LCD TV.. but lists quite a few. I feel the reader can extrapolate how their TV model should stack up. But according to CNET; the Samsung 46" LED TVs are about 40% more efficient than the Samsung 46" LCD TVs. some highlights Samsung UN46B7000 107W Samsung LN46A950 146W http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tech/tv-consumption-chart/?tag=contentBody;nextPage
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I called Toshiba about this and was told it's just a market difference. The TVs are the same, the models just vary in each market. I guess online retailers just mix up the models.
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Apparently this TV is on back order. Amazon called today to try to get me to substitute the TV for the 55UB8500 model. Not sure if it's worth it yet, still researching and comparing the two models.
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The 7 Series is back on Samsung's website (you have to search for it). I don't think it has anything to do with how it's being marketed in other countries.Apparently the new models are coming out and most retailers have dropped their prices. Some large retail stores aren't even displaying these models. Looks like they are trying to get rid of their inventory.Even the ultra expensive Samsung UN46B8500 and UN55B8500 have come down substantially in price.
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CNET didn't go wild over the 8000's picture, and I thought it looked pretty good but wasn't any more floored by it than my own ln46c750. Obviously I'm biased at this point considering I've already made the purchase, but I think Beaver is right that the LED component to it gives you mild energy savings and perhaps a more dynamic picture. But I can tell you the c750 can go from almost too bright to quite dark. It's a significant price jump, and if you go to the ln46c750's reviews so far they are quite positive. If it helps the CNET guy who reviews a lot of the TV's said if the C750 was anything like the B750 (his favorite straight LCD tv of last year) then it's a great buy. CNET didn't go wild over the 8000's picture, and I thought it looked pretty good but wasn't any more floored by it than my own ln46c750. Obviously I'm biased at this point considering I've already made the purchase, but I think Beaver is right that the LED component to it gives you mild energy savings and perhaps a more dynamic picture. But I can tell you the c750 can go from almost too bright to quite dark. It's a significant price jump, and if you go to the ln46c750's reviews so far they are quite positive. If it helps the CNET guy who reviews a lot of the TV's said if the C750 was... » Read More CNET didn't go wild over the 8000's picture, and I thought it looked pretty good but wasn't any more floored by it than my own ln46c750. Obviously I'm biased at this point considering I've already made the purchase, but I think Beaver is right that the LED component to it gives you mild energy savings and perhaps a more dynamic picture. But I can tell you the c750 can go from almost too bright to quite dark. It's a significant price jump, and if you go to the ln46c750's reviews so far they are quite positive. If it helps the CNET guy who reviews a lot of the TV's said if the C750 was anything like the B750 (his favorite straight LCD tv of last year) then it's a great buy. « Show Less
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The b8500 has local dimming LED's whereas the b8000 is edgelit with LED's. The local dimming allows for deeper blacks and better overall picture quality. In my humble opinion the local dimming is fantastic but with a 1300 price difference right now its just not worth it to most people.
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Interesting comments. If the wiki article is right, TCL isn't such a "no name" brand after all - I live in the midwest and I have heard of RCA. They were a lot bigger in the days when tube tv's were really big, they sorta got quiet in the LCD/plasma revolution. But anyway, if TCL == RCA, I might end up choosing this TV. Target & BB have a Samsung this size on Black Fri for 328$, and it looks like Toshibas and Samsungs this size in general are the deal at 320ish this year - an extra fifty bucks off for the TCL is almost enough for a bluray player to go with it on Black Fri (yep, really). =) Interesting comments. If the wiki article is right, TCL isn't such a "no name" brand after all - I live in the midwest and I have heard of RCA. They were a lot bigger in the days when tube tv's were really big, they sorta got quiet in the LCD/plasma revolution. But anyway, if TCL == RCA, I might end up choosing this TV. Target & BB have a Samsung this size on Black Fri for 328$, and it looks like Toshibas and Samsungs this size in general are the deal at 320ish this year - an extra fifty bucks off for the TCL is almost enough for a bluray player to go with it on Black Fri (yep,... » Read More Interesting comments. If the wiki article is right, TCL isn't such a "no name" brand after all - I live in the midwest and I have heard of RCA. They were a lot bigger in the days when tube tv's were really big, they sorta got quiet in the LCD/plasma revolution. But anyway, if TCL == RCA, I might end up choosing this TV. Target & BB have a Samsung this size on Black Fri for 328$, and it looks like Toshibas and Samsungs this size in general are the deal at 320ish this year - an extra fifty bucks off for the TCL is almost enough for a bluray player to go with it on Black Fri (yep, really). =) « Show Less
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Edge-lit with local dimming. http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN46ES6150FXZA
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I've been researching tv's for several months and have decided on the LN46A750. The price at Amazon is unbelievable. I'm going to order one next month. Has anyone purchased the extended warranty? I hear Samsung tv's are excellent quality and wonder if I really need a warranty.
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Honestly I don't know about Samsung F8000 but I am not happy with the contrast and brightness of this TV. I wish I didn't spend more money to get this and tried Samsung instead. I wouldn't know if Samsung is better but it would have costed me less money. Again, my living room has lot of day light and don't know if that is a concern.
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The one Amazon sold me was a Samsung panel going by the code used in the serial number. Samsung for some reason uses more than one manufacturer to build their panels. Perhaps it is to produce less expensive versions of this model for people who live in poorer countries. From what I understand from reading the official HU8550 forum on AVSForum, there are other dealers who are undercutting retailers like Amazon and Best Buy selling the cheaper non-Samsung panel versions, but Amazon was not one of them. This is likely why Amazon does not price match some electronics stores as what they sell is not a direct match in quality to Amazon's products despite using the same model name to describe the TV. The one Amazon sold me was a Samsung panel going by the code used in the serial number. Samsung for some reason uses more than one manufacturer to build their panels. Perhaps it is to produce less expensive versions of this model for people who live in poorer countries. From what I understand from reading the official HU8550 forum on AVSForum, there are other dealers who are undercutting retailers like Amazon and Best Buy selling the cheaper non-Samsung panel versions, but Amazon was not one of them. This is likely why Amazon does not price match some electronics stores as what they sell is... » Read More The one Amazon sold me was a Samsung panel going by the code used in the serial number. Samsung for some reason uses more than one manufacturer to build their panels. Perhaps it is to produce less expensive versions of this model for people who live in poorer countries. From what I understand from reading the official HU8550 forum on AVSForum, there are other dealers who are undercutting retailers like Amazon and Best Buy selling the cheaper non-Samsung panel versions, but Amazon was not one of them. This is likely why Amazon does not price match some electronics stores as what they sell is not a direct match in quality to Amazon's products despite using the same model name to describe the TV. « Show Less