Again, I ask this: who out there can give comparisons btwn. the Miele STB 101 vs. the STB 20 The 20 model is built (looks) differently from the 101.
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I own the STB101. It has a spinning brush inside the head that is powered by the air going through it. Miele calls this a Turbo-brush. This is not an electrically powered brush. The brush spins very fast. Sounds like it's going to take off until you touch it to something. If you press down hard, it will stop almost immediately. A light touch will allow the brush to keep spinning. I often have to raise the brush to allow it to pick up speed again. It is good for lightly cleaning fabric furniture. The vacuum tube meets the spinning brush in the middle of the brush at a 90 degree angle (T shape). The bottom is open and is not adjustable. I only have seen pictures of the STB20. It is also a Turbo-brush. So it is air powered also. The vacuum tube meets it at one end and the brush is at a 90 degree angle (L shape). It appears shorter than the STB101, but I can't find measurements to confirm that. The opening rotates which gives it a flexibility to reach tighter areas the STB101 cannot reach. Miele says this is a flexible brush. I assume the smaller size and the rotating opening is the reason. My opinion is that the the STB101 is like a fancy blade head and the STB20 is more like a fancy crevice tool. By the way, an ordinary blade head, crevice tool, and brush tool are already stored on board an S5. Hope this helps. I doubt there are many folks that own both brushes and that is probably why no one has responded to your question. I don't own both either, and have made some assumptions based on what I read on the Miele website about the STB20. You might go to the Miele website and check to see if there is a Miele dealer in your area. That way you could have hands on before you purchase or at least talk with someone that is familiar with both types. By the way, I've had my Miele at least 5 years. I appreciate it's small size, quality engineering, and power every time I use it.
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I could not find the st30 version at Costco. They always had the cheaper S30 models. They are not anywhere near the quality of st30s
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Hi, you can see the difference in this review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4gd49nLqZY I guees there is a lot of difference between m-80s & m-100s in isolation.
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i'm not sure. i wouldn't think they to be different. i wish they could have provided a better visual diagram of the type cuts each bit makes. this is a nice buy considering the cost to buy separate bits and yes i did add some separate bits to my collection
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I asked the same question and was told there the same units, the difference was the manuals. The one approved has more warnings in the manual. To be sure download each manual and compare the difference.
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Hmmm, look at the pictures and model numbers. I see no difference. Somebody's confused.
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I own both versions as I am a fan of this bbq. The older version had a lower grade of SS and I also had to replace the inner parts. I just called the company and they sold me the replacement parts for cheap. As for the new one. all I have to say is its day and night with the older version. less accessories but much more robust. The fan is also much better calibrated and the unit is less expensive. I was told they change maker and they had to pass the European norm so they made the unit stronger but anyway they have a good customer service. hope this helps.
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Sorry, I don't know the difference in the models, but they do sound very similar in the description.
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Not sure about the date of mfr on my unit. I bought it in late April/early May this year -- 2013. Mine is NOT the GS40, it's a newer updated model very similar to the GS40, but has different handles, etc. Can't vouch for any interior differences. Model number on the plate shows #20051111, but it doesn't show a date on it. Masterbuilt did not have it on their website when I got mine. I ordered thru Cabela's because they had it on sale with a cover, sausage racks and a DVD. In-store locally did not have it on the floor. This doesn't even come close to answering your question, but I'll provide as much info as I know to you, if you need more. Not sure about the date of mfr on my unit. I bought it in late April/early May this year -- 2013. Mine is NOT the GS40, it's a newer updated model very similar to the GS40, but has different handles, etc. Can't vouch for any interior differences. Model number on the plate shows #20051111, but it doesn't show a date on it. Masterbuilt did not have it on their website when I got mine. I ordered thru Cabela's because they had it on sale with a cover, sausage racks and a DVD. In-store locally did not have it on the floor. This doesn't even come close to answering your question, but I'll provide... » Read More Not sure about the date of mfr on my unit. I bought it in late April/early May this year -- 2013. Mine is NOT the GS40, it's a newer updated model very similar to the GS40, but has different handles, etc. Can't vouch for any interior differences. Model number on the plate shows #20051111, but it doesn't show a date on it. Masterbuilt did not have it on their website when I got mine. I ordered thru Cabela's because they had it on sale with a cover, sausage racks and a DVD. In-store locally did not have it on the floor. This doesn't even come close to answering your question, but I'll provide as much info as I know to you, if you need more. « Show Less
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the printing on the bat 200 is of better quality and it looks like the same product except the next generation. I modified my 168 as completely closing it put pressure (over extension on the internal spring). Just my view but the later model is has some changes that I modified mine with. ( Engineer not a writer. )
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How would someone know how to compare 2 different models. A person would have to own both to give you an actual answer here... I can tell you that I was disappointed with the product. It was heavy and awkward. I returned it
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I can't say for certain as I haven't compared them. It's possible that is a newer model or slightly higher wattage. In my experience they are likely similar. A quick search on 1900 revealed little results surprisingly. Sorry if not much help
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GOod morning both are great machines and sell very well the only difference is Miele warranty is 7 years on motor and 1 year on parts Sebo warranty is 5 years motor, parts and Labor now it is your choice to pick which every you like better have a nice day.
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Sorry, am only familiar with the one we own and which we like we like very much. Not familiar with the other model so can't offer a comparison.
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I got the 200... It had better features and a very nice design. This unit is great for the price, you get the same features of units that cost in the 800 to 1000.00 range. It's worth getting. The units very lite, designed well, (looks cool) and has been extremely actuate for me, the gps function is also very handy in finding your way back to a good spot.
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Yes, this is directly from the Miele website page on the STB 101 - " Suitable for all Miele vacuum cleaners." http://mielestore.com/default/vacuum-cleaners/small-attachments/stb101-handheld-turbobrush-4.html
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I have heard that the earlier model 200s have the same carb. But I am not sure. I have a 185s and it worked perfectly. Make sure you have the needle seated correctly also you may have to turn it so it drops all the way in. Idk sometimes for the price is worth a try. Do a little internet search to see if there the same carbs. Idk hope I could help.