How is this different than the 12 volt version other than the mere 15 in-lbs in torque and 50 RPM in speed? (Seems a small diff. for 8v.)
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Seems to me you answered your own question, maybe actually try them both if you can.
1091583
Very big difference, it has a lot more power than the 12volt verison. If you are going to be doing a lot of building you want the bigger one. It makes the job a whole lot easier. Can zip right through for drilling or putting screws in.
881056
Most 12v motors about this size run about 8000 rpm. 8000/60 = 133 gear ratio.
255111
I would say no, there is no torque adjustment. the 12v driver has torque adjustment, or the 3.6v...
1128556
I modeled this from the actual motor (Autodesk Inventor 2015)https://grabcad.com/library/300rpm-12v-0-6a-high-torque-mini-electric-dc-geared-motor-1
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Lower temps and a Esc and motor that can handle up to 6S power. If you run both these systems on 3S the velineon might go a bit faster but 3S is all the VXL can handle. As soon as you put this thing on 4S+ it hauls ass and is the fastest 8th scale motor you can buy. No other motor on the market that I know can go as fast as this thing and it has a bucket loads of TORQUE! Basically the lower the KV the more torque and the higher the KV the more top speed. The reason why this so fast is because there's no other 8th scale motor with as high of a KV as this one that can handle 6S power that I know of. If that makes sense? Lower temps and a Esc and motor that can handle up to 6S power. If you run both these systems on 3S the velineon might go a bit faster but 3S is all the VXL can handle. As soon as you put this thing on 4S+ it hauls ass and is the fastest 8th scale motor you can buy. No other motor on the market that I know can go as fast as this thing and it has a bucket loads of TORQUE! Basically the lower the KV the more torque and the higher the KV the more top speed. The reason why this so fast is because there's no other 8th scale motor with as high of a KV as this one that can handle 6S power that I... » Read More Lower temps and a Esc and motor that can handle up to 6S power. If you run both these systems on 3S the velineon might go a bit faster but 3S is all the VXL can handle. As soon as you put this thing on 4S+ it hauls ass and is the fastest 8th scale motor you can buy. No other motor on the market that I know can go as fast as this thing and it has a bucket loads of TORQUE! Basically the lower the KV the more torque and the higher the KV the more top speed. The reason why this so fast is because there's no other 8th scale motor with as high of a KV as this one that can handle 6S power that I know of. If that makes sense? « Show Less
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With my use I usually only ran 40-50 lbs for good rpm control, and light load, and a 3/8 hose, possibly your load is overriding the torque, but at 150 lbs of pressure it is quite likely that you will need a 3/8 or larger hose for this to produce its max torque under a fairly heavy load. Dan
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The 220 has Two max speeds (400 & 1400 rpm) while the 120 has One max speed (650 rpm.) Also, torque is 310 vs 115 inch/lbs. The B&D; site really sucks, http://www.blackanddecker.com/allproducts/20-volt-drills.aspx
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Happy New Year, Richard!Here are the difference between these Hitachi impact drivers: WH18DSAL=================================================WH18DL(2) 18V 1.5Ah Lithium Ion Slide Batteries (330139============Two 3.0 Ah HXP Lithium Ion batteries1,280-inches per pound of torque=============================1,330 in./lbs. of torque Weight: 3.3-pounds===========================================Weight: 3.5 poundsI decided to buy this impact driver (Hitachi WH18DL) mainly for the larger-capacity batteries and torque.Hopefully, my answer with this brief comparison is helpful for you...Best regards,Marc Wuttke Happy New Year, Richard!Here are the difference between these Hitachi impact drivers: WH18DSAL=================================================WH18DL(2) 18V 1.5Ah Lithium Ion Slide Batteries (330139============Two 3.0 Ah HXP Lithium Ion batteries1,280-inches per pound of torque=============================1,330 in./lbs. of torque Weight: 3.3-pounds===========================================Weight: 3.5 poundsI decided to buy this impact driver (Hitachi WH18DL) mainly for the larger-capacity batteries and torque.Hopefully,... » Read More Happy New Year, Richard!Here are the difference between these Hitachi impact drivers: WH18DSAL=================================================WH18DL(2) 18V 1.5Ah Lithium Ion Slide Batteries (330139============Two 3.0 Ah HXP Lithium Ion batteries1,280-inches per pound of torque=============================1,330 in./lbs. of torque Weight: 3.3-pounds===========================================Weight: 3.5 poundsI decided to buy this impact driver (Hitachi WH18DL) mainly for the larger-capacity batteries and torque.Hopefully, my answer with this brief comparison is helpful for you...Best regards,Marc Wuttke « Show Less
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There is no torque information sent with the product. I do know that it is somewhat higher than any of the 18 volt drivers I have used. I suspect that the Impact driver attachment which I also have and used is much greater than the standard drill driver.
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The first answer is no longer relevant. Amazon's info for this item is out of date. The new specs for the unit are 120 watts, and 280 ft. lbs of torque! This is about 10 amps. I say about since there are losses in the line and plug, and because when the car is running the voltage is higher. The new model is awesome. It takes lugs off of my 4x4 in one or two impacts, so less than 3 seconds. Two impacts on the way back on sets them just a little tight, but not so much that it would cause harm. I wouldn't dare let it hit another time!
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I don't know the factory specs on this motor but I used it as a more reliable upgrade from a different brand 12V, 120RPM motor. The torque of the previous motor was listed as 1100 gm-cm and my subjective guess (by trying to stall it with my fingers) is that this motor is comparable, maybe a little greater. I couldn't find a MTBF (mean time before failure) for it online but plugged one in and let it run with no load. I turned it off after 400+ hours. I also put one on an automatic door I make, which turned it on every half-hour and ran it under load for three minutes. The idea was to simulate opening and closing a door twice a day. It has been a while and I don't remember the exact results but they would have performed that job in excess of three years before I unplugged it. So far, I've been pleased with this motor. Hope this helps.
901385
As stated below, this one has more amps, the batteries are 3.0 Ah vs 1.5 Ah. Also, this one has more torque.
1842166
Yes, hard to find the torque. Finally found it: Variable-speed motor (0-800-RPM) delivers up to 122-in-lbs torque
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I run these at 18v and they run about 50% faster, it is noticeable. It is not as fast as running a 12v motor at 24 volt, that would double the speed but they will trash the motors very quickly doing that, but they had fun while they lasted. www.modifiedpowerwheels.com has a lot of info on what people have found to work
372285
Its not super fast bit fairly quick the motor it comes with is made for crawling so it has more torque I bought a 12t motor to make mine pretty quick
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At the stated 12v input, it cranks out what appears to be 60 RPM. I bought one of those controllers which allows you to DECREASE the RPM. This motor appears to be what you would find in a windshield wiper application. It probably has some kind of worm drive coming off the motor into a gear assembly which amps up the torque but knocks RPM way down. If you want way more RPM's you should pick another motor (I think)
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late reply here: I was installing this as a trunk release in my car today and during a bench test I found that this motor pulled up to a max of 4.1 Amps when full extended or compressed (leaving it engaged for more than 2 seconds)