I'm wondering what the difference is between an Ecosmart pool 18 and an Ecosmart tankless 27; Could either be used to heat a 3500 gal pool?
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We got our Eco smart 18 on jan 2013. It works good in our 10000 gals freeform pool. You can call the company they will let you know but I think it will work for 3500 gals it may take less time to heat.
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Heating a 3500 gallon pool you should use the 18 or next one smaller. Heating a 35000 gallon pool you will need the 27. Keep in mind the electrical requirements. The 18 draws 150 amps. The 27 will require additional electricity that most homes are not wired for. Hope this helps.
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They are both sold by a pool company "MyPoolYard". The $209 version is heavier (36 lbs vs 22 lbs) and MAY have non-Hayward components. This is a murky area when dealing with filter grids. The $260 option weighs less (hence lower shipping). Best idea is to call My Pool Yard at 818-446-6855 and ask them the difference.
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I have an 18ft above ground pool, which is about 8000 gallons. It seems to heat my pool about 1-2 degrees per hour. In October the pool got down to 55 F, I would run the heater on Friday from about 9am - 9pm and it would get up to 74 F, then on Saturday the pool would be back down to 70 F and I'd run the heater again and get it up to a toasty 80+F. I did also get the conversion kit and ran this via natural gas and not propane.
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I have a 32X18 above ground pool which equates to 12K gallon.. Running the heater on one tank of LP (about 10 hours and $18) raises my temperature about 10 degrees in the chilly months. I live in the DC area and compared to my neighbors, I get one additional month of use both at the beginning of summer and the end of summer (May and Sept). I have a solar cover as well as a 4X20 solar panel that I run the water through most of the summer because the wife likes the water temperature in the 90's. Hope this helps.
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6 gauge, I can't recommend the model though. It caused lights in the room to flicker. I ended up getting an EcoSmart 11 EcoSmart ECO 11 Electric Tankless Water Heater, 13KW at 240 Volts with Patented Self Modulating Technology and changing the Rheem out fo the EcoSmart. The specs are the same for each model. 125 amp sub panel minimum, 60 amp dipole breaker for the 6 gauge wire that needs to be run to the unit
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I would recommend finding some higher quality heater for your 300gal tank. You could find a 1000watt heater or just run 2 heaters
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Pool heaters are sized by the surface area of a pool, not gallons. Assuming you have a typical 16 x 32 in ground pool, which is about 20,000 gallons, you would need a 200,000BTU Heater. Go here for an exact answer http://www.haywardnet.com/pdfs/Heater_Selection_Guide.pdf
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I've had them both... My mistake was thinking I could run them every day all summer. I started noticing oil slicks on my water surface and found out the hard way that I was burning them up. The hybrid is more powerful and will clean a 15x30 pool in about an hour. The jr. Take longer and the cord tends to tangle after awhile. After each use you'll have to completely straighten before the next use, or you'll burn out the motor. You must leave in the pool for about an hour after cleaning to let the unit cool. Also make sure that if you have it on a timer, you'll need to make sure it's in the water. I liked them while they worked, but opted to start using the pool blaster max vacuum and it works great. Micro bags take out the mustard algae and cleans/charges easily. I hope this helps...
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Solar panels produce anywhere from 1000 to 2500 BTU's per square foot, per day depending on your climate, (northern, southern, mid). These panels are rated at 2 square feet, so 2000 to 5000 BTU's per day, depending on location. 1 BTU will heat one pound of water by 1 degree fahrenheit. A gallon of water weighs 8.33 lbs, so you would need 8 BTU's to heat 1 lb of 70 deg F water to 71 deg F. The water in your pool weighs 19,800 pounds. Just to raise the temperature of your pool water by 1 degree you would need at most 9 panels, or at minimum 4 panels. From your question it looks like you want to raise the temperature of your pool water from ambient 68(70) to 89(90)? That is a 20 degree delta T, so realistically you are looking at a 396,008(400,000) BTU load to keep your pool at 90 degrees during the summer,(which to me sounds wayyyyyy too hot for a pool). At best, producing 5000 BTU's per day from each solar panel you would need 80 of these panels to maintain temp. If you wanted your desire temp to be 80 deg F instead of 90 deg F than you would need 40. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. There are pool specific solar panels that might produce more BTU's per square foot of usable solar area. In my opinion, 80, or even 40 of these solar panels sounds a little unfeasible. Yes, you could do it, and it might be cheaper than purchasing a 400,000-500,000 BTU gas fired pool heater, but realistically it's not a good application for these specific panels. The common solar panel size to heat water for domestic hot water in households is an 8x4 which they rate for 40,000 BTU's. For those you would only need 10, but again might be a bad option, as they are large, and are quite expensive given their size, (usually 800-1400$/each). Hope this helps. PS. I am also not a pool expert. I am not sure on the thermal retention that pool water holds during the night. It could drop 1 degree in 10 hours or it could drop 10 degrees in 10 hours, I really don't know.
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Ragz, Let me start with the fact I have a 25000 gallon pool also and I use a Polaris 360 sweep on pressure side with out booster pump. I have set the Max speed to 2200 rpm. At 0730 in the morning the pump comes on at 1750 rpm and a auto valve opens to operate the sweep. It runs at this rate for 2 hours. At that time ,0930, the auto valve closes and the pump is then programed to run at 1250 rpm till 6:00 that evening, and then shuts off for the night. The only other change is for my solar heating which is handled by a auto solar control panel .if the pool water temp is lower then then solar heat set the pump will kick back up to 1600 rpm to circulate water through the solar panels. If the outside temp is hotter then the water temp it will extend the pump run time till air temp falls below pool temp. If you don't have the solar option by earlier suggestion works great for me. As a disclosure Im in northern California with out extreme low temps and hot summers
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Gallons per day as others have stated but they both fit in the chamber so either will actually work. The 18 is much slimmer so even if you don't need 18 gallons per day the 24 is likely to last quie a bit longer and therefore justify the extra cost. Again, they will both fit if you have chosen the actual model number for your unit. Hope that helps?!
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I have the 400, recommended by my pool guys. Probably has to do with the size of your pool, and the amount of water/ surface to be heated. We have had ours for three seasons now, love it!
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yikes! .8 gallon seems really small! if you try it, start with the heat at it's lowest setting and be careful! M.
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I run this pump for about 20 hrs a day at 1750 RPM. It uses less than 200watts. The old pump ran for 12 hrs a day and used around 1300watts. 200x21 = 4200. 1300x12 = 15600. Huge difference. My elec bills have been much lower. Also I have had no algae problem at all this summer, and still used less chemicals. I think it's because the water is constantly moving and not sitting still for as long. I have been very happy that I made the change to variable speed.
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According to EcoSmart Site, an Inlet temp of 37 degrees will produce 1.81 GPM Steady State on the ECO 18. At 44, you would be able to produce about 2.0 GPM Flow Rate. http://www.ecosmartus.com/products/electric-tankless/eco-18/#product-tab3 I agree with Cliff. I am on my Fourth Tankless: two gas, two electric. This is by far the best design. The internals, wiring size, simplicity, layout are impressive. Best Value for the $ that I can see. My last electric was aweful. A soon as the flow rate would drop in the head, the heater wouldn't kick on. The ECOSmart has a proprietary sensor that kicks the system on even with a low flow rate. That is a great feature, as all three of my other ones required at least 1.0+ GPM to kick on and stay on. Best wishes.
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Hello Jonovan, Thank you for your question. EcoSmart spa heaters are 99% efficient. This heater will increase a 500 gallon spa water temperature by 15 degrees F in 100 minutes. If you have a water heater that is less efficient, then this heater will cut down on your electrical costs. Please let me know if I can assist you further. Kind Regards, Ross Kelson GadgetsGo Shopkeeper P.S. If you have found my answer helpful, please prefer us when you purchase. You will continue to get priceless service.
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Inground. The 250,000 BTU I bought heats my 9 x 30 pool in Palm Springs quickly (about 2 to 3 degrees an hour with air temp of 75 degrees) and at about 30% less cost than 14 year old heater it replaced. I would guess you would need at least a 400,000 BTU for your pool to get the same performance. A 250 may work but it would have to run much longer than a larger heater. If you go Haywards web site I'd be surprised if they didn't have a calculator that would tell you exactly which of their products would work best on your size of pool.