Is this more powerful than the .177 version?
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Not apples to oranges... Its the kind of small game you want to hunt or the target your after (any other hunters correct me...) Technically, the .22 shoots SLOWER than the .177 I believe, but, has more stopping power. Then again, you might penetrate better with the .177. I like the .22 for the durability and overall enjoyment, though some people like shooting a smaller round. And remember.....THIS IS A SIMPLE 10 PUMP PELLET GUN! Your not buying a desert eagle, you buying a decent inexpensive pellet pistol. Its plenty of power though (the .22 or the .177) for anything you want to accomplish with it. (Target, small varmints, chasing away mid size game from stealing chickens in your coup.) Not apples to oranges... Its the kind of small game you want to hunt or the target your after (any other hunters correct me...) Technically, the .22 shoots SLOWER than the .177 I believe, but, has more stopping power. Then again, you might penetrate better with the .177. I like the .22 for the durability and overall enjoyment, though some people like shooting a smaller round. And remember.....THIS IS A SIMPLE 10 PUMP PELLET GUN! Your not buying a desert eagle, you buying a decent inexpensive pellet pistol. Its plenty of power though (the .22 or the .177) for anything you want to accomplish... » Read More Not apples to oranges... Its the kind of small game you want to hunt or the target your after (any other hunters correct me...) Technically, the .22 shoots SLOWER than the .177 I believe, but, has more stopping power. Then again, you might penetrate better with the .177. I like the .22 for the durability and overall enjoyment, though some people like shooting a smaller round. And remember.....THIS IS A SIMPLE 10 PUMP PELLET GUN! Your not buying a desert eagle, you buying a decent inexpensive pellet pistol. Its plenty of power though (the .22 or the .177) for anything you want to accomplish with it. (Target, small varmints, chasing away mid size game from stealing chickens in your coup.) « Show Less
1656061
Yes it is... it has more knockdown power.. I've killed a crow, a few birds, and a squirrel
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I bought the .22 for myself , and gave my 30 yr old .177 to my son. The .22 seems to have more "punch", and penetrating power... but I am comparing it to a 30 year old pistol. The .177 has more muzzle velocity, but the .22 has a heavier projectile(and it does seem easier to load with the larger projectile) You can't go wrong with either. No regrets with my .22 purchase. hope this helps
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The .177 version has a higher fps pellet speed , but the .22 version has a higher pellet weight. when you combine the pellet speed and its weight you get what is called ft./lbs The .22 version actually has a higher ft./lb rating over the .177 version. ft./lbs is the force of the pellet when it hits the target. Therefore I would say the .22 version is more powerful.
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The fps on .177 is faster than .22. But the .22 hits harder due to its weight. I guess it's a wash. Penetration vs impact. These hit pretty hard in .22, and I would assume it will kill a squirrel or rat with a well placed shot.
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im not sure about the power difference between the .22 and .177, it must be because the mass is greater with the .22. The .22 shoots through 2 layers of dry wall, so i guess its powerful for an air gun.
1656066
Muzzle energy is about the same. I accidently killed a squirrel with 5 pumps on the 22.
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Yes this is a great starter. Does have problem with barrel drop. More so on the .22 cal, the .177 cal seems to be better.
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I bought it as a gift for my grandson. I played around with it before I gave it to him. It only takes .177 Cal pellets. It depends on what you are hunting. .177 pellets may kill small rodents and birds at fairly close range. Crows, rats, squirrels, maybe small raccoons and possum. The most deadly and accurate are the pellets that are hollow pointed. The gun will jam if you load some pointed pellets in the magazine. If you are hunting something bigger, you need a gun (preferably, a rifle) that will shoot .22 cal. pellets. You need high velocity to get a clean kill on something larger than rodents. P-25 is only about 420 fps with a fresh Co2 cartridge. I bought it as a gift for my grandson. I played around with it before I gave it to him. It only takes .177 Cal pellets. It depends on what you are hunting. .177 pellets may kill small rodents and birds at fairly close range. Crows, rats, squirrels, maybe small raccoons and possum. The most deadly and accurate are the pellets that are hollow pointed. The gun will jam if you load some pointed pellets in the magazine. If you are hunting something bigger, you need a gun (preferably, a rifle) that will shoot .22 cal. pellets. You need high velocity to get a clean kill on something larger than... » Read More I bought it as a gift for my grandson. I played around with it before I gave it to him. It only takes .177 Cal pellets. It depends on what you are hunting. .177 pellets may kill small rodents and birds at fairly close range. Crows, rats, squirrels, maybe small raccoons and possum. The most deadly and accurate are the pellets that are hollow pointed. The gun will jam if you load some pointed pellets in the magazine. If you are hunting something bigger, you need a gun (preferably, a rifle) that will shoot .22 cal. pellets. You need high velocity to get a clean kill on something larger than rodents. P-25 is only about 420 fps with a fresh Co2 cartridge. « Show Less
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My scope works fine. Anybody that wants to shoot further than a few hundred yards with a .223 should maybe get a more powerful rifle and scope.
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NO in fact i tried two rifles and was unable to sight either one in amazon was very good about sending me a second rifle but it to was junk I own a 22 cal rifle kinda the same gun but not the xl looks the same this gun i am very happy with i am shooting less than dime groups at 25 yards and have shoot over a 5000 round with this gun stay away from xl 177 i got pissed and just gave it to the niebor kidthey tell me cant keep a scope on it it just breaks them i to tried some high dollar air rifle scopes got maybe 25 round before the broke
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I don't know about the .177 but it certainly has a enough power to do what an air gun should do....it takes a while to site it in but powerful!!
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Bought mine on sale 2 yrs ago at Wally's. Came with .177 and .22 barrels. Easy enough to check - just open the box!...Recommend you replace scope. I swapped for a Barska 2-7x32 Air Gun Scope. EXCELLENT pellet gun for the money, especially with a better scope mounted. Really nice wood furniture too. Using wadcutter pellets, I can hit a bottle cap mounted SIDEWAYS - OFFHAND at the 10 meter competition distance on a regular basis!!! To the reviewer who said it was a piece of junk - suggest he read the break-in period info and practice a little more. :-) Performance smooths out at about 300 rounds during which time, I found that wadcutters work best for mine - YMMV. Bought mine on sale 2 yrs ago at Wally's. Came with .177 and .22 barrels. Easy enough to check - just open the box!...Recommend you replace scope. I swapped for a Barska 2-7x32 Air Gun Scope. EXCELLENT pellet gun for the money, especially with a better scope mounted. Really nice wood furniture too. Using wadcutter pellets, I can hit a bottle cap mounted SIDEWAYS - OFFHAND at the 10 meter competition distance on a regular basis!!! To the reviewer who said it was a piece of junk - suggest he read the break-in period info and practice a little more. :-) Performance smooths out at about 300... » Read More Bought mine on sale 2 yrs ago at Wally's. Came with .177 and .22 barrels. Easy enough to check - just open the box!...Recommend you replace scope. I swapped for a Barska 2-7x32 Air Gun Scope. EXCELLENT pellet gun for the money, especially with a better scope mounted. Really nice wood furniture too. Using wadcutter pellets, I can hit a bottle cap mounted SIDEWAYS - OFFHAND at the 10 meter competition distance on a regular basis!!! To the reviewer who said it was a piece of junk - suggest he read the break-in period info and practice a little more. :-) Performance smooths out at about 300 rounds during which time, I found that wadcutters work best for mine - YMMV. « Show Less
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nothing is necessary , but it does make the .177 cal faster and more accurate. i found however the 22 cal, was already a larger port. you can drill the .177 you have out if you have a good way to hold it , i found the steel soft and easily marked in a vise and vise grips but still doable, most that are sold in the US that are rated over 600 ft per second already have a large port in them. then it is the flat top piston and valve modes to get more power.
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I have an RWS Diana Model 45 in .177. It works great and holds a tight pattern despite being a barrelbreaking model. I used the UTG Low Profile .22/Airgun to Picatinny/Weaver Rail Adaptor for the dovetail receivers on my air rifle. I've hit 4" circles on a paper plates at 80 yards consistently!
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In the research I have done, the 500 is much more powerful. It is the one used by the military for sighting in there rifles. Having used this laser now, I love it. I don't though know how the $99 works. I think with any SiteLite though, you are getting the best laser boresighter.
710242
I am using it on my 223 and its awesome. I use it for long range woodchucks and coyotes.
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One at a time. Although I think you can use BBs in the 177, it is highly discouraged due to the fact BBs will ruin the riflings in the barrel. This is a very accurate PELLET gun. Don't ruin it trying to shoot BBs through it.
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I bought one of these and it was .177. They make both the .22 and .177 either caliber will satisfy. Hope that helps.
307789
In .177 cal it is supersonic with light pellets. if you are looking for something for backyard plinking get a rifle with a velocity of about 700-900 f.p.s.
2019564
My .177 shoots 1225 fps with light alloy pellets, 1000 fps with 7.0 gr lead pellets. As advertised! It is awesome. This one is advertised to get 950 fps with alloy, and probably 800 fps with light lead pellets. While slower, the pellets weigh about 2X what the .177 do, so it hits harder! I would expect the .22 to be every bit as accurate and awesome as the .177, and either will kill small to medium size game.
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Jeff, I live in a mid size college area in a townhouse style apartment with two other townhouse units directly attached and houses on both sides of the complex. The noise level was a chief concern of mine as well. I can say that the .22 cal model of this gun is slightly quieter than the .177 that my roommate has. So far, I have not gotten any complaints. However, if you dry fire the gun, it is loud enough to warrant a complaint, but loaded with a pellet, it seems to be a "suburb friendly" toy in regards to the noise level.
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You can get it in either - when I first ordered it thru amazon (Perfect Air Sports) - I requested a .22 and they sent the .177 in an open box (looked used as the styrofoam packing was completely destroyed and cardboard box open) with no user instructions or paper work. We had to return it. We then purchased ( and again requested a .22) it thru Pyramid Air - for a no problem purchase experience - received it in perfect condition brand new. I would not purchase it thru the amazon store again. We would deal with pyramid air again ... for sure.