twin paddels The only thing I don't like about my 10 year old bread maker is the hole in the bottom of the loaf where the paddle is........Now TWO.....What does the bottom of a finished loaf look like?????Thanks in advance twin paddels The only thing I don't like about my 10 year old bread maker is the hole in the bottom of the loaf where the paddle is........Now TWO.....What does the bottom of a finished loaf... » Read More twin paddels The only thing I don't like about my 10 year old bread maker is the hole in the bottom of the loaf where the paddle is........Now TWO.....What does the bottom of a finished loaf look like?????Thanks in advance « Show Less
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Question. When do you remove the dough, to bake in the ZO? I want to mix, knead, rise 1 and then remove dough, put cinnamon swirl in FLATTENED dough, roll up jell roll fashion, remove blade , then rise 3 and bake. This method is for Cinnamon Swirl Bread in Beth hensperger bread machine book. She uses a machine with a "pause" button
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It seems that there is an easy problem to the two paddle system. If the paddles align accross the width of the bread rather than the lenght, the damage to the loaf is minimal (2-4 slices have holes). If the padles allign down the lenght of the loaf than all the slices have holes. Does anybody know if the ZO alighns accross the width?
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I had the same thoughts when I saw my X20 for the first time. However I find that the paddles usually come out very cleanly without mangling the bread. When that happens the holes are not so objectionable.
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I do not have a Zo i have an Emeril but yesterday on KA websight I saw a comment about taking dough out just before baking and put it in a regular bread pan and insert it back into the machine. I had several pans and had to check them all but did find one that slid right into pan and baked a beautiful loaf of regular sized bread. Very happy with this idea as I HATE the holes also. Try this.
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95% the time I use the machine for kneading and rising only. Easy enough to pop the dough in the oven. The crust is better and different shapes and "sloppy" doughs like Ciabatta (our favorite) can't be baked in the machine anyways. King Arthur Flour test kitchen, where I bought my two Zojirushis, says they rarely bake in it. KAF claims this machine kneads better than the mixers they sell. But back to the paddles. When I do bake bread in the machine and don't mind waiting around, I remove them before the bake cycle begins.
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My first two attempts with my BBCCX20 were awful. I started reading comments on the internet assuming so many people couldn't be getting a good result. It had to be me. So here are some things I changed. (I am not an experienced bread maker) I now spoon my flour into the measuring cup after fluffying it up with a spoon in the sack. I use much less flour this way I've found. Second, I have noticed I always have a messed up loaf when I use the plain active dried yeast. I have started using the rapid rise Fleishchmann's in the jar that is made especially for bread machines. Then I either use the quick, quick wheat, or cake cycle if it has eggs in it. I also now test my liquid with a thermometer to make sure it is about 100 degrees and I warm my nuts slightly since I keep them in the freezer. Eggs I leave on the counter until they don't feel cold anymore. It takes some advanced thought to make a loaf of bread I find. But I am now very happy with my machine. I was a little bit panicy to begin with though.
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I have had my machine for several years now and do not have this problem. A few times the paddles have stuck in the bottom of the baked loaf of bread, just don't ever use anything metal to get them out so you don't compromise the coating on the paddles.
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I have not experienced any problem with paddle and had to look at my machine to understand your problem. My paddles sit above the bottom of the breadpan by the elevation of a small white plastic washer. My paddle, in fact, doesn't even come in contact with the bottom of the breadpan. You might contact manufacturer if this washer is not installed in your bread maker. Hope this is helpful.
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Good luck with this... I also, was looking for new paddle which broke after only 4 use....I'm still looking over an year later. I even contacted breadman without any luck. This machine is over price and doesn't do any better bread than a $50 bread machine.
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No when you finish baking to remove bread without making a large hole in the bottom, you reverse the paddle from the bottom and it will collapse the paddle.
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HiTry to place the breadpan so it will fit the bottom of the basket to the rotor of the machine, having aligned the side clips. Then, push it and don't expect it will go smooth, use some "gentle" force. If is not latching perfectly, the blade will not be rotated properly by the rotor. Scott has a good advise and if is not working ... return it! I am still not happy with cycle 1 and 2, I am using it mostly for cycle 9 (dough) and bake it in the oven. Not sure how useful is my opinion, hope it will help!
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Mine is not big either. It's a little more than half the pan. And it's not a "fluffy" kind of bread, that's why I use it for toasts. It's small but tasty ;) They make a note about the ratio of water depending the altitude where you live, but I don't know if that would make a difference on the size of the loaf.
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I am very glad I got mine; we make a giant 2-pound loaf every 5 to 7 days. I have complete control over what goes into our bread - no lists of added chemicals! It's also the right temperature for starting dough for items like rolls. I like to embed cheese and pepperoni in the middle before the second rising. Cleanup is limited to one pan and a rubber spatula. I got this model because our first bread maker relied on cheesy clips to hold down the pan, which didn't last. This one has the pan twist in, in the same direction as the paddle spins, so unclipping during kneading is impossible. We've gotten so spoiled by our higher-quality, homemade breads, very little at the store bakery is still appealing.
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The only time I used it was when I discovered I'd forgotten to install the paddle. I dumped the contents of the pan in a bowl, wiped off the paddle shaft, inserted the paddle, restored the ingredients, and took off pause. Still made a great loaf of bread...!
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I'm having the same problem with my Breadman TR875. I'm about ready to try my luck with the Dough cycle and completing the loaves in the oven. The bread tastes fine, has great texture, but the gaping holes are just not very pretty and makes it impossible to make sandwiches from the center of the loaf.
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Wolfgang Puck machine has 2 paddles. I used the hell out of mine until the element went tits up and the machine had to be trashed as it kept tripping my GFI in the kitchen. Great machine while it lasted though and made some pretty great bread. Horizontal loaf also
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I found that it does make a difference if the blades are pointed at each other. You can try different settings and see if it makes a difference. the size of the loaf will also make a diffference.small loaf will hang onto one blade. made over a hundred loaves of bread with my machine but i did not notice any quality problems no matter where the paddles were positioned.
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I'd be interested too! I've made two loaves of bread so far in my small Zojirushi (3 days old!) but both were kind of dense. If I make anything successfully, I'll post the recipe here. But if anyone has any to share, I'm definitely interested too.
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I am having the same problem, two loaves, one white one light rye, both collapsed before the bread was done. I am using fresh ingredients, following the recipe exactly and measuring accurately. Since in both cases the bread looks wet and under cooked I will try leaving out some water. I may also cut back a pinch on the yeast as the loaves seem too large for the machine even though I am only making 1.5 pound loaves, not 2 pound.
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Not quite the size of this one. We had a smaller machine which made a very small hole in the loaf but we wanted to make larger loaves. I think what the problem is is that this paddle is not straight but bent and I believe this is what makes the difference.
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I regularly make a 24 cup bread formulae in this machine mine is about 15 years old. I have had it serviced once and that was my own fault. U just have to get used to the bowl moving instead of the dough beater.