Difference between 'latest' vs the "2nd Generation" Hello all, I have been thinking of buying the Flip Ultra HD 2nd Gen ) until this new 'latest' version showed up. however, has anyone found or done research if the extra ~ 150 for the 'latest' version...
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I've been trying to decide between these two products as well. The Flip UltraHD (2nd Generation) 120m and the Flip MinoHD (2nd Generation) 120m have nearly identical specs (same LCD size, resolution, light sensitivity, video engine, framerate, bitrate, aperture, zoom, etc). The biggest differences are the size (mino = 3.94" x 1.97" x 0.66" / ultra = 4.25" x 2.19" x 1.17"), weight (mino = 4.1oz / ultra = 6.0oz), battery type (mino = internal lithium-ion / ultra = AA rechargeable battery pack), battery life (mino ~ 2hrs / ultra ~ 2.5hrs), and charge time (mino = 3hrs via USB, 2hrs via power adapter, ultra = 6hrs via USB, 3.5 via power adapter). I think I am going to go with the Mino because of its slimmer profile and quicker charge time. If you don't care about the size or charge time get the Ultra. You can compare all the Flips side by side here (http://www.theflip.com/en-us/Products/specs.aspx)
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I had same question! I spent ~ 1 hour... reading all comments for both... doing google search for both part #s... I found that even the Gilsson website only had one product, but they used both names for it !? Finally, I decided to check prices for "used" & "new"... and found that both models were being sold for pretty much the same price after S&H was added. So, I'm concluding that they are one-and-the-same. The low price of UBM-1 is pretty deceiving... 'cause the S&H brings it over $20 total... which is about the same as UBM price range w/ S&H.
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The Ultimate is the newest version. It is designed well and seems to be a bit of an upgrade. Get the Ultimate, it is rock-solid and a real bargain.
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Hi, I don't really know what the difference is between the 1 and 2. I'm not even sure which model I have, although I assume it's a 2. I've had it since early 2012 and I think the 2's came out in 2011. I looked up the images online and, frankly, I can't tell the difference either. Sorry, I know this isn't much help.
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I cant answer 100%, because I read in misc forums that new version uses same numbers as the old.What I can answer is "THIS version when I bought it, is not the new versions".
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4th Generation is a term used by apple. It describes what model your iPod is. Now in this case, the 4th generation, means it can update to 6.1.3 and is the 2nd to latest iPod. Sadly, apple discontinued it from manufacture but you can still buy it. The iPod 4th generation is better than the 2nd generation also because the 4th generation has a camera built in. I don't know why the other answer says it doesn't, but it does. I hope this is helpful to you :) please rate this as helpful! Have a good day.
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the unit i got was 5th generation. it has to have voice over ability. when i go onto the web, you do have to be careful about the descriptions. there are some 4 th generation shuffles out there. voice over is cool and helpful. always get the newest version.
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I have the exact same problem, my 2nd Gen just broke and the new shuffle appear to be worthless. Some people recommend buying a reconditioned 2nd Gen from Apple but they appear to be out of stock. Not sure where to turn! Ipod Nano is popular but heavier than I'd prefer. Bring back the 2nd Gen Apple!
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Thanks for the info. I ended up keeping my 1st gen & doing the upgrade for $10. I love it! After using it the speaker seems like it would be worthless & it is very easier to adjust the volume anyway.
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There's a lot of discussion about the advantages of the old version in the Amazon user reviews of both versions. I bought the (more expensive) old version and am happy with it, but never tried the newer one for comparison.
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Yeah, those seem to be the major differences. The non-user-replaceable battery on the new View sucks though...that was one nice feature about the e200 series (as oposed to iPods) and seemed to make complete sense. I have had to use firmware update on my V1 e260 to recover from a crash and it was pretty seamless and I lost no data. V2, I believe, does not support the "recovery mode" firmware update. I have no idea what the parameters of the View are regarding this. Maybe it just never crashes! (not likely...) Other thing is the better stats on the microSD expansion slot...now up to 8 gigs (wow!) and using microSCHC. That's 16 gigs total without a hard-drive. Awesome! I have found, after some initial frustration and confusion with the expansion slot on my e260, that I just never put it in MSC (Mass Storage Class) mode and ALWAYS use it in MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) mode. I found moving files with Windows Explorer pretty glitchy in MSC mode. (Windows iExplorer would freeze up or get very strange-acting) Now, I just pull the microSD card, stick in into card reader on my computer (with the full-SD-size adapter) and add files like it was a pen drive. Perfect for podcasts which you switch in and out frequently and perfect for loading stuff for a trip. You could have a second card for you wife's/gf's music or podcasts as well and just swap it out without a Windows session. It DOES mean a much longer boot-up (really "refresh data" after the initial normal bootup...) but I think it's worth it for the flexibility of adding and deleting files so easily. You can always just remove the microSD and not deal with the "refresh-data" wait if you get sick of it. 8 gb of microSD would be nice though! Also, I'd like to hear some objective feedback regarding the sound quality of normal audio with the View as compared to the e280. Is is MUCH better? The e280 has become so inexpensive I may just go for that and wait out the View for another year or two.
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A generation is the next manufacture or lot of a product. In otherwords, when it first comes out they may make 1,000 of these things. That's the first generation. Then they do improvements or change the look very little and that is the second generation. This matters to some people, because with things like video game systems, you want the newer generation , 3 or 4th, because the software bugs have been fixed. Yet sometimes newer generations fix flaws that were in your favor, such as being able to download stuff to it, or giving you options that where causing the company to loss money in some way, so these people want the older generations. Like satallite receiver cards. Hope this wasn't to confusing and helps.
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I think if you can find the HD at a decent price I'd go with it. I got mine (Ultra HD) at Best Buy on sale for $169.99 plus I had $10 dollars in rewards coupons, so $159.99. I think there is about a $50 +/- difference in the two. I love the video on the HD, but I've seen two Ultra video reviews that look pretty darn good in quality. I'm thinking of getting my son the Ultra non HD for Christmas, just because he will trash it quick and why spend the extra $$$.
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I don't know anything about the older version so I can't help you, sorry. New is good?
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Hey T. McAnaney,Yes, when I compared specs, I too looked and said, why should I pay more for an item that has the same specs? What is so different about this new model. I even went to web sites that had incorrect information on the specs of the TH-42PX600U, and the TH-42PX75U had the specs of the TH-42PX600U. So I ended up buying the TH-42PX600U. Even from what I heard that the 75U is supposed to have 1080p, versus the 1080i, I did not believe it would be worth the additional cost.
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Mine is the 2nd gen. Check and see if it's the first or second generation. The newest one is second.
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Don't be sad, I actually prefer the 5.5 generation over the classic. I ended up keeping mine instead of getting a classic. Its much zippier in navigating, especially if you have a lot of videos and the click wheel works much smoother. All in all the 5.5 generation is my favorite thus far.