Zeno Hot Spot 80 uses then what? So I'm debating whether or not I should get this product. Is it 80 uses per battery charge? Or is it 80 uses and buy a new one?
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If its disposable after 80 uses....why the replacement tips?I still love the device!!
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I just read the manual online at Zeno's website (myzeno.com, click on support), and unfortunately, yes, the product is meant to be disposable. That means 80 uses and then into the trash it goes. According to the website, they are planning to solely market this product moving forward, which strikes me as a cynical attempt to squeeze a bit more money out of their customers. I couldn't find any suggestion anywhere on their website that the Hot Spot is a superior product to their older products. Plus, it seems odd (could that be a euphemism for greedy and insensitive?) at a time when the world is moving toward more sustainable reusable products for Zeno to be heading in the opposite direction. I just read the manual online at Zeno's website (myzeno.com, click on support), and unfortunately, yes, the product is meant to be disposable. That means 80 uses and then into the trash it goes. According to the website, they are planning to solely market this product moving forward, which strikes me as a cynical attempt to squeeze a bit more money out of their customers. I couldn't find any suggestion anywhere on their website that the Hot Spot is a superior product to their older products. Plus, it seems odd (could that be a euphemism for greedy and insensitive?) at a time when the world... » Read More I just read the manual online at Zeno's website (myzeno.com, click on support), and unfortunately, yes, the product is meant to be disposable. That means 80 uses and then into the trash it goes. According to the website, they are planning to solely market this product moving forward, which strikes me as a cynical attempt to squeeze a bit more money out of their customers. I couldn't find any suggestion anywhere on their website that the Hot Spot is a superior product to their older products. Plus, it seems odd (could that be a euphemism for greedy and insensitive?) at a time when the world is moving toward more sustainable reusable products for Zeno to be heading in the opposite direction. « Show Less
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I've done the math on the disposable versus the reusable Zeno. Disposable is cheaper so I will buy another one. Paid $35 and a 52-year old (lucky me for having zits for going on 40 years) and 19-year old have used it for AT LEAST a year and a half. If I had this when I was 13 year old, I would have hardly any scars on my face. It just works on the big, hurtful bumps but if you feel it coming up, it has never taken more than 3 apps to make it disappear. When I have forgotten to use it quickly enough or not resisted the urge to pick, it still reduces the time in healing. Simply the best acne product I've ever used in 40 years and I have tried everything, prescription and non. I've done the math on the disposable versus the reusable Zeno. Disposable is cheaper so I will buy another one. Paid $35 and a 52-year old (lucky me for having zits for going on 40 years) and 19-year old have used it for AT LEAST a year and a half. If I had this when I was 13 year old, I would have hardly any scars on my face. It just works on the big, hurtful bumps but if you feel it coming up, it has never taken more than 3 apps to make it disappear. When I have forgotten to use it quickly enough or not resisted the urge to pick, it still reduces the time in healing. Simply the best acne... » Read More I've done the math on the disposable versus the reusable Zeno. Disposable is cheaper so I will buy another one. Paid $35 and a 52-year old (lucky me for having zits for going on 40 years) and 19-year old have used it for AT LEAST a year and a half. If I had this when I was 13 year old, I would have hardly any scars on my face. It just works on the big, hurtful bumps but if you feel it coming up, it has never taken more than 3 apps to make it disappear. When I have forgotten to use it quickly enough or not resisted the urge to pick, it still reduces the time in healing. Simply the best acne product I've ever used in 40 years and I have tried everything, prescription and non. « Show Less
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What a bummer that its a disposable. And yes that is odd! A product that takes batteries I assumed would be reusable but I wanted to know for sure. Thanks David for the reply! That's really too bad if they're discontinuing their reusable models. I will probably shell out the $40 to try it just to see if I get any results. It might be worth it if I only get a few bad blemishes when I break out. Shopoholic my be right if I can make the 80 uses last longer than other treatments. Thank you for all your help!
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HelloI bought a Zeno HotSpot and was thrilled with it until it stopped working! I was shocked to find a battery operated device like this is disposable. There is no good reason for this except for the company to continue ripping off customers on a regular basis. Having a good product with a built in expiration for no good reason is environmentally irresponsible and just plain greedy. I would have paid double for this device would it have kept working until it wore out on its own. I wish companies like this would think about the impact on the planet instead of just making a quick buck! HelloI bought a Zeno HotSpot and was thrilled with it until it stopped working! I was shocked to find a battery operated device like this is disposable. There is no good reason for this except for the company to continue ripping off customers on a regular basis. Having a good product with a built in expiration for no good reason is environmentally irresponsible and just plain greedy. I would have paid double for this device would it have kept working until it wore out on its own. I wish companies like this would think about the impact on the planet instead of just making a quick... » Read More HelloI bought a Zeno HotSpot and was thrilled with it until it stopped working! I was shocked to find a battery operated device like this is disposable. There is no good reason for this except for the company to continue ripping off customers on a regular basis. Having a good product with a built in expiration for no good reason is environmentally irresponsible and just plain greedy. I would have paid double for this device would it have kept working until it wore out on its own. I wish companies like this would think about the impact on the planet instead of just making a quick buck! « Show Less
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It's only 80 uses. After throwing hundreds of dollars into the Zeno money pit, I bought the Sirius Pulsar and found it works just as well and does not have limited uses. The only complaint I have about the Pulsar is that it's power button is too sensitive. I throw it in my purse, only to find the battery has worn down because it has been inadvertently turned on. (Still cheaper to buy batteries than endless Zenos)
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I as well had this unit stop working randomly...but I used it like 20 times over 3 months. First it would not always turn on, today it wont turn on at all!
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From my experience, this product is waaay cheaper than even just a 1 month's supply of the last (unsuccessful) popular skin care line I tried...which I might add did NOT work at all and also dried out the skin on my face everywhere instead of just the spot (it was pretty ugly!). Mine will probably last close to a year too. Because it works so effectively on blemishes and lasts much longer than topicals, I have no problem throwing it away after that for only $39. I also like the convenience that I can take it anywhere with me because it is so small and works on just regular batteries, but I don't have to remember to charge it like a cell phone. From my experience, this product is waaay cheaper than even just a 1 month's supply of the last (unsuccessful) popular skin care line I tried...which I might add did NOT work at all and also dried out the skin on my face everywhere instead of just the spot (it was pretty ugly!). Mine will probably last close to a year too. Because it works so effectively on blemishes and lasts much longer than topicals, I have no problem throwing it away after that for only $39. I also like the convenience that I can take it anywhere with me because it is so small and works on just regular batteries, but I... » Read More From my experience, this product is waaay cheaper than even just a 1 month's supply of the last (unsuccessful) popular skin care line I tried...which I might add did NOT work at all and also dried out the skin on my face everywhere instead of just the spot (it was pretty ugly!). Mine will probably last close to a year too. Because it works so effectively on blemishes and lasts much longer than topicals, I have no problem throwing it away after that for only $39. I also like the convenience that I can take it anywhere with me because it is so small and works on just regular batteries, but I don't have to remember to charge it like a cell phone. « Show Less
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The instructions say charge it for 8 hours once every 60 days. Not sure how many zaps you'd get out of a charge...
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THANK YOU! I was on this site looking for a replacement because mine would not turn on at all, and I was devastated--My Zen has been my constant companion for about 3 years . I came across your post and decided to try it. Whaddya know-- It came back to life! Thanks again! :)
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You would want to use this in conjunction with a deep cycle battery even a marine deep cycle like those sold under the blue "Ever Start" label at walmart even and a 10 amp or greater "Solar Charge controller" and a "ac power inverter" for running things like household AC lights/laptops/small appliances like blenders and coffee grinders and even short uses of a standard 700 watt microwave! Pending your geographical location (I'm in Oregon) I get about 35 to 45 amps of battery charge on a late spring through summer average sunny day.. (6-7 amps per hour) That's enough for me to keep my laptop running 24/7 and 3 or 4 8 watt CFL light bulbs in standard table lamps for 6-8 hours a day! You can add more panel and more batteries to expand your needs and to compensate for lower sun exposure areas.. I highly recommend searching the internet for a basic free "Solar how to and intro" page. and also a search about using and maintaining "Deep cycle batteries" (You never want to drain your batteries lower than 50% between charges) It all sounds overwhelming to a beginner but once you do a quick study you will be hooked! ~ Hope this helps ~ Nick
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That's almost like asking how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop. I have never seen documentation or anything stating how many recharges you can do on this unit. I'm sure it will depend on the quality of battery stored inside the case and how well it is maintained. I do recall it stating in the manual that it should be charged every month. I've had a couple of these and one failed fairly soon while the other keeps going. I bought a Stanley unit to replace the one that failed and will soon be replacing my other Peak with a Stanley, its all about quality.
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Okay, do you keep the charger cable plugged into 110VAC outlet? I Don't, but I do plug it in from time to time. I (and neighbors) have used this device lots of times and never run it down. I've used the 110VAC outlet for drilling holes in fence poles and to run a pole saw pruning trees. I've used the "jump charge" feature for starting cars stalled on the road. I've charged a cell phone. I've used it for pre-setting our GPS. It is a little heavy to use as a flashlight but fills low tires on cars. Our neighbors like it a lot and have "suggested" what a great Christmas gift it would make (hint...hint). When we get our new Cessna, I will probably keep another in the luggage bay. Don't buy a cheap copy. Okay, do you keep the charger cable plugged into 110VAC outlet? I Don't, but I do plug it in from time to time. I (and neighbors) have used this device lots of times and never run it down. I've used the 110VAC outlet for drilling holes in fence poles and to run a pole saw pruning trees. I've used the "jump charge" feature for starting cars stalled on the road. I've charged a cell phone. I've used it for pre-setting our GPS. It is a little heavy to use as a flashlight but fills low tires on cars. Our neighbors like it a lot and have "suggested" what a great Christmas gift... » Read More Okay, do you keep the charger cable plugged into 110VAC outlet? I Don't, but I do plug it in from time to time. I (and neighbors) have used this device lots of times and never run it down. I've used the 110VAC outlet for drilling holes in fence poles and to run a pole saw pruning trees. I've used the "jump charge" feature for starting cars stalled on the road. I've charged a cell phone. I've used it for pre-setting our GPS. It is a little heavy to use as a flashlight but fills low tires on cars. Our neighbors like it a lot and have "suggested" what a great Christmas gift it would make (hint...hint). When we get our new Cessna, I will probably keep another in the luggage bay. Don't buy a cheap copy. « Show Less
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What purpose did you buy this for? Was it for a home security system, if so, then just replace the dead battery and this will charge off of the existing setup.
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Anyone crack one open and see if this is anymore than a transformer and a couple diodes or is it an active charger that dials back the voltage or current when the battery is charged? Thanks. (I know it's only $8, but still wondering)
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Hi M. Crnkovich; Try and find a battery charger that you can plug into your car's cigarette lighter socket. I found one for my Olympus C8080 at "that big online auction site" if you know what I mean. I think it's a good idea to get 3 extra batteries and maybe a 2 gigabyte XD card if you can afford it. Here's a tip concerning the batteries: Store them close to your body to keep them warm. A warm battery will put out more juice and will last longer than a cold battery. I even keep my camera close to my side to keep it and the battery inside warm. That's if it's 30 degrees F or colder. These lithium ion batteries have what's called "rebound." After it's been drained, some of the charge comes back in a day or two, but not much. It's usually enough to take a quick shot before it totally dies, and then it will rebound again for one shot. Have fun in Alaska :) kkrome25
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Think of it like a cell phone. You need to charge it once in a while (great battery life), but you can use it while it is charging. You can just keep it plugged in forever if that's how you want to use it. However, it does shut down (after 15 minutes) I think of inactivity, even if its plugged in
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You can get multiple shots without recharging. I don't know how many, but the instructions make it sound like you don't recharge very often. I've fired mine at least 20 times, just to see & hear the charge, and it doesn't seem any weaker. Maybe if you actually zap someone it will drain more of the charge, but honestly, I think you should be able to go a long time between charges.
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Yeah, I saw where it said "drained" battery, but while researching these types of rechargers I saw another one that said "recharges drained batteries" but a few sentences later says, "don't use on discharged batteries" which I'm assuming means don't use this on dead batteries. Why can't they just SAY this works on completely drained batteries or not? Or am I just being too cautious? I'd hate to get this and have someone I love depend on it getting them out of a jam only to find out that welllll, it's not QUITE that good, yanno?
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I had seen similar postings but have had no issues. I replaced the battery in my daughter's Zen and she uses it frequently and has had no issues.
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I refresh at every charge. All it does is drain the battery all the way before it charges. And that is the best way to make batteries last. But there's nothing wrong with just charging up if you need them quickly
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I'm not a battery expert, but you should really stick to the charging voltage and initial current they show on the battery. Overcurrent will certainly warm it up and it may leak or explode on you, or just shorten it's life.
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I was also hoping to keep a spare battery on hand. Looks like it's a permanent battery. Two issues bad about that is: you can NOT charge one while the other is in use and once the battery no longer holds a charge, the unit is useless. Did I miss this information (permanent battery not replaceable) somewhere in the product description?
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I only charged it twice while in Bora Bora, Tahiti and area. I made 2 1/2 hours of video with it. I mainly charged it when it was 50% or less to make sure I didn't run out. I was using a neighbor's ZM1 and was impressed enough to buy my own. Good luck.