Gamo lead round balls; .22 versus .177
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.177 versus .22 cal  lead round balls. Read up

I've used these in my vintage Crosman 114 .22 cal rifles for 3-4 years and love them. Easy to load, nearly as accurate , same weight... BUT penetration is far superior to a pellet so I use these for pest control. These are through a rifled barrel at 850+ fps, modded co2 guns with some "juice".

Based on my success with .22 Gamo round balls, thought I'd try some .177 in my antique Daisy BB guns. Results are unspectacular. Daisy guns are designed to shoot a steel BB @300-350fps. These are quite a lot heavier so you are probably looking at 250fps at best. No problem jamming or feeding however I only put in 10-15 at a time, in my daisy 25 pump with spring fed magazine. They shoot OK.

Theses are not "perfect" spheres. Some are under/oversize. Imperfections would be amplified in smaller .177 cal versus .22.
My thoughts are these would be fine for single shot higher velocity. 177 airguns with rifled barrels aka "pellet guns". I see there is another company making copper plated, lead .177bbs. Higher diameter tolerances. These would be a better choice for magazine fed bb guns

These ARE dirty, it thats a concern. if you don't lick your fingers or eat them, no problems.
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Grace, I sincerely enjoyed both books.  However, you need to do some serious research on weaponry.  Not only is the .22 caliber bullet capable of piercing a human skull, but is is capable of killing almost any mammal with a well-placed head shot.  It should be considered DEADLY, but not necessarily accurate, up to 400 yards - yup, 400!!!  Search the world-record Grizzly killed in 1953 by an Indian woman.  In 1962, a high classmate was killed with a .22 while squirrel hunting in Iowa; the .22 is used in many covert operations by many governments including SEALs and others; every poacher knows that many deer have been taken with the .22, albeit illegally (don't trust me on that - ask any game warden); the very infamous female serial killer, Eileen Warnous, used a Ruger Mark II pistol to do her murderous acts.  The .223 would not be a very good weapon for Caitlin (IMO); too much recoil for such a small child, nor would a 20 gauge, same reason. Your series would be enhanced with more  research into firearms.  If the "looter on the 4-wheeler" survives the 'head-shot' of the .22  (not happening), you will lose credibility with the hunters like me.  Believe you me, we know better.  Please do not be discouraged.  Keep up the good work.  Your writing is improving.
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Good target for .223, 556 an 7.62x39 shot over 250 rounds still good.. target was at 200 yards don't recommend anything less than 100 yards with rifle calibers that are traveling 2500fps or more anything less than that you should be fine
4282667
Posting this review for a friend: Wildly inaccurate gun with an array of pellets under 900 fps.  Cheaper guns from gamo shoot tighter groups.  Maybe received a sub par barrel with a poor crown on the muzzle?
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I have had a Gamo .117 air rifle for several years and a friend told me about the Gamo .22 Whisper Fusion Mach 1 that he has.  So I looked into it and ordered it the week before Christmas.  It was delivered to me in in three days.  I am now sold on the knock down power of the .22 caliber,  The sound level is a lot lower than the regular .117 Gamo.  I would defiantly recommend the .22 model over the .117.
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Have tried several different type of high quality pellets and installed a different and better scope. I am getting some shots into the same hole at 20 yards, then a couple of shots that are 8-10" randomly off target. Something is wrong with this rifle, any ideas?
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I have a Hatsan Striker Edge in both .177 and .22 and both rifles love this pellet. My shooting group is quarter size at 20 yards with the .22 Crossman hollow points. I can group the same with the .177 and can down size to nickel groups at 15 yards. These are not top
of the line pellets cost wise but they are great to shoot and extremely accurate in my rifles.
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Laser guided lead... period. I have 1500fps air rifles that don't hold a candle to these on many levels. Amazingly, these Chinese rifles have classic looks, precision accuracy, and an open platform with a well deserved, fervent following. With the available upgrades for multiple shots, increased fps, (Archer Air) and the low prices make these a solid investment as an affordable lower-powered PCP style Co2 air rifle. Suprisingly, the .177 is now my favorite. With polymags, I can stack pellets with ease at 50 I could take the eye out of a rat at will (if I so chose).  However, here are some tips; upon reciept, clean (nylon bristles) and oil the barrel- it will be dirty and have some light rust. Get a decent optic (youll want to appreciate the accuracy). They love almost all wad cutters, and mid to light weight hunters like polymags. 650 to 700fps is all you need when it comes with surgical accuracy..... Even If you're looking to build an effective and affordable NV pester, youll love these rifles - delux gold bolt or not- haven't had a bad one yet!
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Have the scope mounted and sighted in at a 200 yard zero on my Weatherby Vanguard 22-250. Had this scope and the Burris E1 scope that boasts a reticle specific to the ballistics of the 22-250. After fondling, thinking and viewing at the field behind my house at all hours of the morning , day and night on both...I opted to mount this bad boy on this rifle, my favorite Coyote rifle.

All my old rifles handed down to my by my grandfather and father have old refields on them...made in Denver, CO. My blood has a little Redfield loyalty in it I think. I know the glass on this scope is made in the Phillipines but the scope is assembled in the USA...check it out yourself....that bothers some but I'm willing to overlook that in order to stay faithful to a family favorite. The fact that Redfield is a Beaverton, Oregon company and more importantly backed by parent company Leupold is even better. I have also heard people say the glass in the revolution line is better but I don't see that (yet) and hopefully don't.

When calling Leupold asking about specifics on the accuranger varmint reticle and the ballistics it is geared to they just say zero it in at 200 yards on any varmint caliber and you will be good to go. OK I am gonna give it a go on the 22-250 and report back because when I run ballistics on typical varmint cartridges the 22-250 and .243 are real close...but .223 leaves me suspect to their general response they gave me when I called. A couple of inches difference at 300 yards, 4 inches difference at 350 and of course worse from there.

I'm hoping the BDC hold marks are best for my 22-250, we'll see. If not on or close to it I will mount it on the .223 and give that a try...I like the scope that much so far...especially for the price. the Burris scope I referenced is over $400...and does NOT have the cool range device on the reticle like this Scope. Great job on this scope guys at Redfield!
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While I haven't yet had opportunity to site this gun for accuracy, it certainly is powerful. A common .22 lead pellet will pass through one wall of a metal garbage can and both sides of a steel soup can. Workmanship is very good. Cocking may be difficult for those with limited strength but not for the average male, although repeated shots may get tiresome. This may be the best pellet rifle in this price range.
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I honestly don't know why I bought the tin of Gamo Tomahawk pellets, but perhaps it had to do with the 750 number of shots in the tin, who knows? If I use these in my Air Arms S510 Extra FAC Superlight, I can get a decent shot out of the pellets, but that's only because of the unique "sealing chamber pusher" the Air Arms repeaters use, to individually seat each and every pellet entering the magazine to the firing chamber, no matter how out of round or "loose" it may be, up to a point that is. Sometimes in the S510 I can get blow-by with a given pellet as even its sealing mechanism can fail if the pellet is so loose, or undersized if you will, that is renders any sealing effort nil, void, and useless.

I'll continue to use these pellets for putting massive quantities of lead through my Walther barrel-equipped Air Arms S510 to finally get it fully broken in and seated correctly, as I have just about 300 shots through it already, and its accuracy just simply gets better the more I shoot lead through it, NOT alloy or plastic pellets. I rated it 3 stars because it's just that: "Okay", and OK alone...no better or worse frankly writing about the pellets' performance, accuracy, and tendencies to fly off and be a zinger (miss the target completely), even though I'm using a Hawke SF30 6-24X x 50mm side parallax adjustable scope, something that is never, ever wrong with regard to sighting, quick target acquisition, and fast focusing on the S510 Air Arms rifle.

With my lesser rifles of the .177-Caliber size, a Benjamin Regal Nitro Piston rifle (1000fps with lead, 1200 with alloy), or my antique Benjamin/Crosman 1960's vintage Model 1377 "American Classic" pump action pistol (600fps), I can barely shoot the Gamo 'Hawks pellets with any modicum of accuracy, unfortunately...they are just too irregular, sized up, down, and over sized .177-Caliber pellets to work in a less sophisticated air gun.

I'd like to have given the pellets more stars than I did, but that's all they rate, and just barely that...I was contemplating a "2 stars" rating for a long, long time as I wrote this review. Gamo makes some incredible ammo, don't get me wrong, it's just not this batch here unfortunately.
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Ok, so I bought a Benjamin Titan GP (Gas Piston) from Walmart on a whim. My friends and I had been getting back into the pellet rifle thing again. I researched how to get the best accuracy and I ended up buying like 5 different kinds of pellet so I could determine which worked best with my rifle. Each rifle likes a specific of pellet that it will shot the most accurate. THESE ARE MY BEST!. I have tried the Gamo TS-22 22.gr with good results, the Beeman Copper plated Kodiak 21.12gr with good results, the Predator Polymag 16gr with great results and the Crosman premier domed hollow points with just ok results. With these pellets I can consistently get groupings of 5 pellets using a site-vise in a dime size area at 20yrs. I will assume that it will remain consistent at a longer distant. These flatten out best on impact and will most likely cause the most damage. The Beeman and Gamo are best for long distance shooting and don't flatten out at all. I am ordering about 4 more tins of this after I shoot off all the others. I will use these as my choice for hunting and the others for shooting are. AAA+++ for these!!!
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great deal on excellent targets. especially good for .22 as the shots are much easier to see. A must have for my range sessions.
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Having recently purchased a Crosman F4 Nitro pellet rifle at Walmart for about $85, I'm very happy with the accuracy of the rifle when using these pellets, as well as Gamo Rocket and Gamo Red Fire pellets.  I'm no marksman and probably haven't developed a consistent shooting grip, so what inconsistencies I see in target strikes are perhaps more likely my fault than the ammo, but with the RWS and Rocket pellets, I was getting pretty consistent hits on a 1.5-inch spinner target at 30 yards.  On a larger target, I saw the Red Fire pellets were just a little more off, and that's why I think I wasn't as accurate with them on the spinner as with the heavier RWS and Rocket pellets.  The Red Fire remained more accurate in the F4 rifle than three other pellets of similar weight - Crosman Super Match (wadcutter), Crosman Premier (domed), and H&N Barracuda Green Lead-free (domed) - which seemed to fly high and to the right, and yet adjusting my scope accordingly didn't seem to pull in those shots as best I could tell.  With time, perhaps I'll find that as I get my shooting posture and grip more consistent, I can likewise boresight my scope to get good targeting results from the lighter pellets.  I'll add that I'm not shooting with any bench rest other than a rolled up bath towel and trying to shoot with a relaxed but stable grip to avoid fighting the double recoil of the rifle.  My scope is Hammers 3-9x32AO, not the CenterPoint scope included with the rifle (not bad, but the Hammers scope is superior to it).
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well made gun, pretty accurate but silver sting pointed pellets jam all the time in it. Couldn't get gammo to tell me if I could use those or not. The pellets don't fit in the magazine well and slip backwards.
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.20 caliber is the best (in MY opinion). Getting hard to find. Buy them while you can.
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This is a steel ball incased in a lead skirt to make a pellet. This is basically AP pellet ammo. The pellets are blasting through a piece of 3/8 plywood from a Gamo air rifle.
These come 150 to a tin, and the casting seems looked good on the ones I weighed out, my only complaint is the weights... These are labeled 9.6 grains, but the 30 pellets I weighed out weighed either 9.2 or 9.3 grains.
I am confident using these on squirrels or rabbits with no problem. I will buy again.