CREATE TABLE table_17847 ("Club" TEXT, "Played" TEXT, "Won" TEXT, "Drawn" TEXT, "Lost" TEXT, "Points for" TEXT, "Points against" TEXT, "Tries for" TEXT, "Tries against" TEXT, "Try bonus" TEXT, "Losing bonus" TEXT, "Points" TEXT)

What's the points for count for the club with 41 points and 8 won games?
SELECT "Points for" FROM table_17847 WHERE "Points" = '41' AND "Won" = '8'
SELECT "Points for" FROM "table_17847" WHERE "Points" = '41' AND "Won" = '8'