CREATE TABLE table_41257 ("Administrative Panel" FLOAT, "Agricultural Panel" FLOAT, "Cultural and Educational Panel" FLOAT, "Industrial and Commercial Panel" FLOAT, "Labour Panel" FLOAT, "National University of Ireland" FLOAT, "University of Dublin" FLOAT, "Nominated by the Taoiseach" FLOAT, "Total" FLOAT)

What is the number for the University of Dublin with their Cultural and Educational Panel of 5, and an Industrial and Commercial Panel with less than 9?
SELECT COUNT("University of Dublin") FROM table_41257 WHERE "Cultural and Educational Panel" = '5' AND "Industrial and Commercial Panel" < '9'
SELECT COUNT("University of Dublin") FROM "table_41257" WHERE "Cultural and Educational Panel" = '5' AND "Industrial and Commercial Panel" < '9'