CREATE TABLE table_name_23 (place INT, ribbon VARCHAR, total VARCHAR)

What place had a ribbon below 9.8 and a 19.2 total?
SELECT MAX(place) FROM table_name_23 WHERE ribbon < 9.8 AND total = 19.2
SELECT MAX("place") FROM "table_name_23" WHERE "ribbon" < 9.8 AND "total" = 19.2