CREATE TABLE table_name_38 (time_retired VARCHAR, constructor VARCHAR, driver VARCHAR)

What is the Time/Retired value for Driver Johnny Herbert with Constructor Benetton - Renault
SELECT time_retired FROM table_name_38 WHERE constructor = "benetton - renault" AND driver = "johnny herbert"
SELECT "time_retired" FROM "table_name_38" WHERE "benetton - renault" = "constructor" AND "driver" = "johnny herbert"