CREATE TABLE table_1265 ("Club" TEXT, "Played" TEXT, "Won" TEXT, "Drawn" TEXT, "Lost" TEXT, "Points for" TEXT, "Points against" TEXT, "Tries For" TEXT, "Tries Against" TEXT, "Try Bonus" TEXT, "Losing Bonus" TEXT, "Points" TEXT)

Name the points for where lost is 4
SELECT COUNT("Points for") FROM table_1265 WHERE "Lost" = '4'
SELECT COUNT("Points for") FROM "table_1265" WHERE "Lost" = '4'