CREATE TABLE table_name_32 (grid INT, laps VARCHAR, driver VARCHAR)

What is the lowest Grid with fewer than 65 Laps and with Driver Tim Schenken?
SELECT MIN(grid) FROM table_name_32 WHERE laps < 65 AND driver = "tim schenken"
SELECT MIN("grid") FROM "table_name_32" WHERE "driver" = "tim schenken" AND "laps" < 65