CREATE TABLE table_1368649_9 (grand_final_dual_television_commentator VARCHAR, year_s_ VARCHAR)

How many grand final dual television commentators were there in 1961?
SELECT COUNT(grand_final_dual_television_commentator) FROM table_1368649_9 WHERE year_s_ = 1961
SELECT COUNT("grand_final_dual_television_commentator") FROM "table_1368649_9" WHERE "year_s_" = 1961