CREATE TABLE table_65352 ("Draw" FLOAT, "Language" TEXT, "Artist" TEXT, "Place" FLOAT, "Points" FLOAT)

How many times is the points 8 and the place larger than 8?
SELECT COUNT("Draw") FROM table_65352 WHERE "Points" = '8' AND "Place" > '8'
SELECT COUNT("Draw") FROM "table_65352" WHERE "Place" > '8' AND "Points" = '8'