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Izbori 2008.Edit

Pozdrav. Ova mapa nije baš dobra, potrebno je ispraviti: Bosanski Petrovac, Šekoviće, Foču i Pale. U tim opštinama je SNSD je dobio najviše glasova. Evo ovdje imaš sve pa pogledaj. Vjerovatno ima još grešaka. Tonka (talk) 17:15, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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Lilic (talk) 03:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

File:BiH 1739.pngEdit

Hello Ceha,

Please answer to the issue raised her. --Geagea (talk) 14:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

PaganijaEdit

U redu, ajde da pričamo otvoreno: koji ti je đavo? Da li stvarno želiš da falsifikuješ granice na mapi samo da bi tvoja fiktivna mapa bila nekakva "protivteža" mapi iz srpskog atlasa? Meni ni najmanje ne smetaju hrvatski izvori kao što je ovaj: http://www.croatia-in-english.com/images/maps/800s.jpg Ako je takvo gledište hrvatskih istoričara, to je jedno od validnih gledišta za vikipediju. Međutim, tebe izgleda gledište hrvatskih istoričara ni ne zanima već sam izmišljaš granice. Na ovoj mapi si zadržao granicu Zahumlja iz srpskog atlasa i onda si samo umesto Srbije na mapi nacrtao Hrvatsku: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania9st.png I kao izvor za to si mi pokazao ovu mapu hrvatskih dijalekata koju si ti nacrtao: http://oi59.tinypic.com/i3w1ab.jpg Pa mislim, čoveče, jel to neki vid zezanja ili čega već? Jel postoji mogućnost da se uozbiljiš i da diskutuješ o ovome na normalan način? Odnosno, postoji li mogućnost da pokažeš pravu referencu za tvoju mapu ako iste uopšte ima? PANONIAN (talk) 14:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Ako je u pitanju greška, onda u redu. Ipak, ovaj izvor je problematičan: http://free-zg.t-com.hr/Andelko/Slike/DAIzupanije.jpg To je samo mapa nekog lika čiji kredibilitet nam je nepoznat. Zar ne možeš koristiti neki ozbiljniji izvor kao što je ovaj: http://cro-eu.com/galerija-fotografija/albums/userpics/10001/Sl_%202_%20Zupe%20Lika,%20Gacka%20i%20Krbava%20u%20srednjem%20vijeku.jpg Pored toga granicu Zahumlja na tvojoj verziji mape si preuzeo iz srpskog atlasa i ona ne izgleda tako ni na jednoj hrvatskoj mapi, pa čak ni na toj Anđelkovoj. Ako već koristiš neki izvor (pa čak i taj nepouzdan), bar bi trebalo da na svojoj mapi verno prikažeš granice iz tog izvora. PANONIAN (talk) 20:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Što se tiče ovih drugih karata, naša tema su granice u 9. veku. Ne sumnjam da je ovo kvalitetna karta, ali u pitanju je 11, vek, a ne 9: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hr/a/a0/Krešimirova_Hrvatska_1070.jpg Na ovoj nije definisano na koji se vek odnose te granice: http://www.vrilo-mudrosti.hr/razno/vm-karta-crkva%20uoci%20turskih%20osvajanja.jpg Ovo je moderna geografska karta nevezana za 9. vek: http://asimkamber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/geografske-karta.jpg Ove sa foruma nisi dobro linkovao, jer linkovi vode samo do stranica na forumu. Međutim, na tom forumu postoji jedna karta koja izgleda ozbiljno, a to je ova: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/krilnik/Klaic-PHursv.jpg~original Ako prepraviš svoju mapu da ima granice kao na toj karti, to će biti prihvatljivo sa stanovišta kredibilnih izvora. PANONIAN (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Tok Neretve pokriva šire područje. Prema tome, čak i ako je tačno da se "većina povjesničara slaže da je granica Zahumlja bila na Neretvi", ne znači da je tu u pitanju ceo tok Neretve. Isto je i sa granicom Hrvatske. Takođe nije bila ista situacija sa granicama u 9. veku, 10. veku ili 11. veku. Jasno mi je da je tvoja karta "kombinacija raznih izvora", ali to je ono što ne treba da radiš na vikipediji. Zadržao si granice Paganije i Zahumlja iz srpskog atlasa i onda si sa tim spojio granice iz tri različita izvora. Pri tome si sam selektivno odlučio šta je u kom od tih izvora tačno a šta nije. To je originalno istraživanje koje ovde ne treba da se radi. Takvo istraživanje mogu da rade ljudi koji imaju diplomu na osnovu koje imaju kredibilitet i koji su pozitivno prihvaćeni od strane akademske zajednice. Znači, ne možemo ti i ja ovde sami izmišljati ili uklapati granice na mapama već moramo granice nacrtati tako da budu iste kao u nekom kredibilnom izvoru. Ove granice kakve si ti napravio se ne podudaraju sa granicama ni u jednom takvom izvoru. Drugim rečima, napravio si hibridnu mapu koja uklapa podatke iz potpuno različitih izvora, što predstavlja "grafičkog Frankenštajna". Ako o nekoj temi postoji više kredibilnih izvora, onda mi ovde treba da nacrtamo više mapa, od kojih će svaka biti identična samo jednom od pomenutih izvora i onda u člancima možemo koristiti te mape i pisati prema kom izvoru je koja rađena. Pored svega toga, ova mapa se odnosi na period kasne antike i nema veze sa 9. vekom: http://cro-eu.com/galerija-fotografija/albums/userpics/10001/Sl_%201_%20Liburnija%20i%20Dalmacija%20u%20doba%20Borne.jpg PANONIAN (talk) 08:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Sa druge strane, ako baš i hoćeš da sprovodiš svoje originalno istraživanje ovde, onda ti predlažem da to uradiš sa nekom mapom čiji ja nisam autor. Meni je bitno da mape koje sam ja radio, kao i njihove derivativne verzije budu tačne i zasnovane na kredibilnim izvorima, jer će u suprotnom sutra neko meni pripisivati netačnosti koje budu na nekoj od tih mapa. Zato bi najbolje bilo da na ovoj mapi budu granice prema mapi Nade Klaić: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania9st.png U suštini, te granice prema Klaićevoj i nisu mnogo drugačije od ovih koje si ti nacrtao, ali imaju iza sebe jedan kredibilan izvor, što je veoma bitno. PANONIAN (talk) 08:39, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Ajde da pokušamo naći neki kompromis ovde. Evo da probamo sa ovom verzijom: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania9st.png Ubacio sam granice sa mape Nade Klaić i one su veoma slične granicama u tvojoj verziji mape. Jedina je razlika što se te granice potpuno oslanjaju na jedan kredibilan izvor i nisu kombinacija potpuno različitih izvora.

Sada imamo ovakve mape:

To sam imao na umu kad sam na početku naše diskusije rekao da treba da postoji više verzija mape. Svaka od njih treba da bude bazirana na jednom kredibilnom izvoru i onda sve one mogu biti u člancima gde će pisati na osnovu kog izvora je koja rađena. Ako misliš da treba da postoje još i mape rađene prema Goldštajnu i onom Anđelku, možemo uraditi i takve. PANONIAN (talk) 09:27, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Paganija po Goldštajnu: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania06.png (ako ti koristi za neki članak). PANONIAN (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Sources for imagesEdit

Please add reliable sources to your images, with page numbers. Your uploads show intricate detail and should be sourced.--Zoupan (talk) 22:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

YemenEdit

Hi Marib was not completely conquered by the Houthis and some cities are still in black and green when they are conquered. Thank you discuss before importing a new version and return to the consensus version. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:43, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

repliedEdit

I replied, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lilic#DemoBiH2006a.png (Lilic (talk) 19:41, 8 July 2015 (UTC)). (Lilic (talk) 02:09, 10 July 2015 (UTC)).

File:BiHDemo2006.pngEdit

I went ahead and split your newer 'brown' map out to this name, since it seems that nobody had an issue with that. Please fix the information page, I made a 'best guess' about the license that you intended based on what I saw in the history.

Like I noted at File_talk:DemoBIH2006a.png, the 'currently visible' versions are still backwards from what I think is correct (with some understanding, that the version Lilic was fighting to restore is itself old and in error compared to more recent versions based on that data), but I'm waiting to go further until some more people respond. Revent (talk) 21:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Revert on File:Syrian,_Iraqi,_and_Lebanese_insurgencies.pngEdit

Hi, Ceha. I'm reverting your revert of my upload of a map on File:Syrian,_Iraqi,_and_Lebanese_insurgencies.png. I'm using en:Template:Syrian, Iraqi, and_Lebanese insurgencies detailed map for my update. The sources for Syrian edits are found in edit summaries here, and on the talkpage here. For iraq edit summaries talk. As for the differences, I can't account for all of the changes BlueHypercane761 has to the map which made it deviate from the module, and which of them have changed in light of recent information or were right in the first place. It also should be noted that they contribute to the module as well, most recently 5 and a half days ago on their Wikipedia legitimate alternate account, they have said that they will not be able to update frequently during term time, and the map you reverted to is now half a month outdated. Banak (talk) 14:17, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Sclavinie BiH.pngEdit

What period is File:Sclavinie BiH.png depicting? Why is the word "Sclavinie" used? You can answer here by using {{ping|Zoupan}}--Zoupan (talk) 12:29, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


MAP updateEdit

Thank you for updating the "File:Syrian, Iraqi, and Lebanese insurgencies.png" map! BlueHypercane761 was doing great but he hadn't updated the map in about a month. I hope all is well! Cheers, MikeR8898 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceha (talk • contribs) 14:55, 06 September 2016 (UTC)

TabqaEdit

Intervention against ISISEdit

Hey,

you mentioned something from Affrin or so to Euphrat river.. You mean these Area in the extreme North-West of Syria?! Turks (because you wrote Turks took it) do not even have a color on the map?! I think this "corner" was clear already before? Or was it occupied by Al-Nusra? But even Al-Nusra "officially" left Al-Kaida and tries to get another rating (now they are classified worldwide as terror organization) since they feel that ISIS/ISIL or however you call it is getting kicked in the Ass.. I just do not know if Iraq Special Forces supported by regular Iraqi Forces are "ready" to retake Mossul, it is by far the largest and most important (oil...) city the ISIS holds... far more important than their capital...

So what did the Turks exactly do?! All I read/heard yet was negative, that they bombed Anti-Assad rebels which were fighting ISIS together with the Russians they did their own "Air Support Alliance", Iraq yesterday explained its high oil output (the low price really sucks for them, the US can give training and some infantry weapons together with European States, but the main costs like tanks which during 2003 invasion fell into US hands are active now again, some other "old" used vehicles were sold as oil output was growing and prices were high until 2014... but the strongest and most professional are the Kurds as they showed several times already.. Have a nice evening/day Kilon22 (talk) 17:17, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey, tanks for your answer and details. Well as I already wrote I see the whole Turkish (together with Russia) start of an own air campaign in Syria only I think (I think neither Turks or Russia are flying missions over Iraq), as I have read many times their bombs, rockets, 20 to 30mm nose gun Machine Cannon in the nose many jets have, or special places to install gatling gunes with a bit ammo... but bombing the Fraction which is against Assad, but also even more against the radical Salifists and does an overwhelming part of their fight against IS/Al-Nusra... I think Russia will call their jets home soon, Russia is being hit also very hard by the low oil price, and such a mission is expensive since a flight-hour in such a jet costs between ~20,000 US-$ and far above 100,000 US-$ for some special large ones... Russia is in a very difficult situation because they calculated the 2015 budget with an oil price of 102 US-$. I think it was not even 50% of it... so the "Wealth funds" were touched, a cut of 10% in every thing, maybe lower wages, or less work for state employees?! However there was 1 single exception and guess what?! 100 Points for Military. But no question it is costly to operate Su-30 or Su-35 in Syria. But next year the IS will be beaten or almost I think, we had some years again to worry about terror, now there will be another short break... I mean if they REALLY wanted to kill or bring these idiots with their black arabish flaggs to running home they could use a massive number of helicopters and jets with exact strikes, the Kurdish soldiers are quite good equipped, but they could make a Rambo out of them :D also they could give heavy artillery, mortars, APC's and even older tanks to the Kurds... Kilon22 (talk) 19:00, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

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Onu kartu nikad nisi trebao da stavis na wikipediju. Uzeo si da preuredjujes tudju kartu, sto nije fer niti uredu. Namucio sam se da izbacim originalnu karu da bude "van" te tvoje derivatske (dali je to rec? - ipak jasno je da si pravio drugaciju). Mislim, menjas stvari kako ti se vidi, to nije uredu. Uzmemo ovaj primer: [1] , cemu to vodi? Bez izvora i icega uzmes da menjas stvari kako odgovara tebi/tvojima. Ne moze tako. (Lilic (talk) 16:40, 15 December 2016 (UTC))

Onaj admin je ostavio kartu. Znas sta to znaci? Znaci da i te kako moze sad da se menja na bilokako. Da se najveca gupost stavi na nju. Jel to zelis? (Lilic (talk) 16:44, 15 December 2016 (UTC))
Ti si taj koji vodi rat, ne ja. Ti si uzeo da menjas druge karte.
A za kartu od 1921 si namerno bahat. Lepo sam napisao izvor podata za 1921 i to nije dovoljno, nesto pricas o drugim godinama - karta nije o tim drugim godinama nego je o 1921. Vise nego dosta mi je tvog ultranacionalistickog licimerluka. (Lilic (talk) 22:42, 17 December 2016 (UTC))


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