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View Poll Results: Which Rifle forum format do you prefer?
A single forum like it was from the beginning 76 33.63%
The three forums as they are now 150 66.37%
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Old June 4, 2012, 04:06 PM   #1
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Vote on your preference for Rifle forums

We have given the new format for the Rifle forums a fair chance for acceptance. Now it's time to decide if the new format (three separate rifle forums) is preferable to the original single forum. We want your opinion on this in the form of a vote.

You can, of course, comment on the formats, but it will be the vote that counts when making the final decision. We won't make that decision until a substantial number of members has voted one way or the other.
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Old June 5, 2012, 08:35 PM   #2
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Since I have no interest in the AR type rifles I like the three rifle format.
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Old June 5, 2012, 09:27 PM   #3
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I'm kind of partial to the separate forums. the general forum handles a lot of the caliber debates while the bolt, lever and pump forum handles a lot of the target, distance and hunting typed questions that aren't applicable to the hunting forum and the semi forums can handle most of the AK vs AR, 22lr and home defense discussions. it makes it a lot easier to compartmentalize when I'm trying to zero in on a specific topic area.
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Old June 6, 2012, 07:47 AM   #4
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I like the 3-forum layout, and I actively read all 3.
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Old June 6, 2012, 07:51 AM   #5
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Old June 6, 2012, 01:15 PM   #6
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Old June 6, 2012, 01:39 PM   #7
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If people like it let it be I'll go either way makes me no difference
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Old June 6, 2012, 04:32 PM   #8
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So, I voted for reverting back to the prior format. I just didn't like the new format, but I couldn't really explain why, but just now I was clicking around, and figured it out...

I think that being separated by action type rather than use bugs me. For instance, posts about the Ruger GSR would fit right in with posts about an FN SCAR, and the Browning BAR would be right at home next to posts about the Remington 700.

I guess I will quantify my vote by saying that I feel the rifle forums would be better served by being separated by purpose, rather than action type. Otherwise, my vote remains for a unified, multipurpose single rifle format.

Rifles General - General questions, comments, and musings about rifles, without being able to be grouped into sporting/competition or hunting categories. Caliber wars, welcome!

Hunting Rifles - Fairly obvious, right? Caliber wars only quantified by meat destruction or game ineffectiveness allowed.

Sporting & Competition Rifles - Plinkers, Paper Pokers, Home/Self Defense, and eotw rifles go here. Caliber wars require one shot stop mentions, ballistics info, or ability to penetrate zombies without penetrating drywall.

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Old June 6, 2012, 05:20 PM   #9
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I like the new format with the multiple selections for long guns.
My only suggestion would be for a separate rim fire section.
Good work.
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Old June 6, 2012, 07:48 PM   #10
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I liked it before, but I can see where if you are not into ARs then it could be annoying with all the AR buzz. It does seem to move a little slower now though......
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Old June 7, 2012, 10:58 PM   #11
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More categories is better.

It helps to filter out what I'm not interested in. While I approve of your right to own an AR or AK or other tacticool c**p, I have no interest there.
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Old June 8, 2012, 06:40 AM   #12
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As someone who has been around almost from the beginning, I was comfy with the one, all-inclusive forum. I voted for the current, three-forum format. IOW don't get too comfortable.
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Old June 8, 2012, 07:11 AM   #13
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We had a long discussion about how to separate the rifle sections. We even discussed separating them by purpose.

Problem is, one rifle can have multiple primary purposes, and it can change in a given day.

Separating by action type is definitive. Hunt with your AR? Plink with your AR? Target shoot with your AR? No problem, they all go in one section.

Action type is simple, definitive, and really not open to interpretation about where a post should go. It's not as if there are lever-bolt semi-auto breakaction singleshots out there.
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Old June 9, 2012, 02:37 PM   #14
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It's not as if there are lever-bolt semi-auto breakaction singleshots out there.
You've just got to open your mind!
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Old June 10, 2012, 02:23 PM   #15
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I agree with separating the forum up due to overwhelming traffic, but I agree with what shoulder said. The way it is split now I just have to check all three, which doesn't simplify it one bit for me. Rimfire might be a nice split even if the current format is kept. Enforcing hunting more actively.

It isn;t a terrible set-up or anything though. I still hang around no matter the final decision.
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Old June 12, 2012, 11:39 AM   #16
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Dang it ... I'm loosing.

I like the old way because I am isolated most of the day and checking 3 more forums is a pain in the butt on my phone.....and....I'm not gonna pay for tapalk ......Lol
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Old June 13, 2012, 03:26 AM   #17
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I like the idea in post #8...

... about grouping by intended use rather than by mechanism.
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Old June 13, 2012, 08:18 AM   #18
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Not going to happen.

To break the sections down by purpose would result in a far greater number of forums, likely with ever increasing calls for a new forum to cater to someones specific desires.

I could literally see a dozen or more forums being required to even scratch the surface of the reindeer games in which our members participate.

One of the primary goals of breaking the forums down was to make it easierfor members to track and find threads about their guns and interests while at the same time making it managable for staff to well... manage.

The greater the number of forums, the harder it is for staff to do the job Rich has asked us to do.

So sorry but it is not going to happen.
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Old June 13, 2012, 12:18 PM   #19
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I like having the forums split by action. I don't spend a great deal of time in the Rifle sections, but this format lends itself to the way I tend to use the Rifles forum. To be precise, I tend to go on the hunt for posts or threads about a specific rifle, or class of rifles. I would add that a "Rimfire" section might be nice. Even though those could also fit into one of the other sections, I can see lots of shooters wanting to compare or read posts related to a variety of rimfires, without regard to action type.
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Old June 13, 2012, 04:05 PM   #20
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It helps to filter out what I'm not interested in. i'll stick to my Ar and AK..While I approve of your right to own bolt gun I have no interest there.
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Old June 14, 2012, 02:00 PM   #21
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I could do with even just two
one for all the black rifle - AR/AK/Saiga type stuff and one for the rest
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Old June 14, 2012, 02:12 PM   #22
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Old June 14, 2012, 03:04 PM   #23
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Not going to be split by black rifle / everything else either.

There are entire boards devoted to that subject. They are specific, we are a general forum.
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Old June 14, 2012, 07:52 PM   #24
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Im kinda mixed on it. It has its benifits to be split, but also its kind of not in keeping with the "longarm" area either. With the Semi, bolt/lever/pump, and general forums for rifles, it in turn makes the shotgun area, with its single subforum, seem confusing.

I think either both the rifle and shotgun forums should be split in some similar way, or not. Makes for an easier way to search or just browse.
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Old June 15, 2012, 08:37 AM   #25
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The reason the shotgun area isn't going to be split in a similar fashion is simple -- it isn't busy enough to warrant it.

The handgun forums were the first ones that were split, over a decade ago. It was done because a single handgun forum was just too unwieldy.

On an active day a thread could be posted, and end up on the second page, within an hour, and on the third page, or farther back, in less than 24 hours.

The posting rate was simply too fast for either staff or members to keep up with.

We were getting to that point with a single rifle forum.

If, and ONLY if, the shotgun forum becomes as busy as the rifle forum was a month ago, then that's when we'll consider splitting it.

Not before.
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