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Wiki created[edit source]

Hello, I would like to tell you that I have created your wiki. You can now access it at https://themirror.miraheze.org. You should automatically have been granted administrator and bureaucrat rights, if that's not the case then please leave a notice on Stewards' noticeboard so we can fix it immediately. Do not hesitate to ask questions if your question was not answered in our FAQ. Also, if you want a extension, gadget, or anything else, please ask us here. Thank you for choosing Miraheze, and we wish you good luck with your wiki! -- Void Whispers 15:50, 27 August 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[You've got mail][edit source]

Hello, Spike. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
Reception123  (talk) (C) 16:59, 4 November 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I saw it and replied. FYI--sending me an email sounds an audible alarm here; by comparison, with my current settings, posting to this page and having Meta give me an Alert are silent until I check Miraheze. For Meta to give me an Alert that I have email is silly. Spıke (talk)17:32 4-Nov-2017
PS--Ignore the above; I see from the Edit Summary on Meta that the problem is that this isn't true for all recipients and you had no way of knowing. Spıke (talk)17:43 4-Nov-2017
@Spike the Dog: Yes, we have had several reports that noreply@miraheze.org ends up in spam sometimes (especially for password resets) so I'm never sure whether the user will actually receive the email. To confirm, did the one I sent go to spam or Inbox? Reception123 (talk) (C) 17:45, 4 November 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I replied by email. Spıke (talk)17:51 4-Nov-2017

Proposal 5[edit source]

That proposal is irrelevant and invalid. The entire point of the RFC is to allow me to re-enter the Miraheze community at least on a restricted level, and therefore a proposal to “just go away” is unhelpful.

Additionally, you said “If love of Miraheze were the basis, then OP (who is not subject to any of the old IP range blocks) could have created a new identity and resumed editing” — believe me, if I could do that, I would’ve done so a long time ago. However, the inconsiderate Miraheze staff won’t let me do that, and that’s why we are here. Amanda123 (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wiki created[edit source]

Hello, I would like to tell you that I have created your wiki. You can now access it at https://rfobasic.miraheze.org. You should automatically have been granted administrator and bureaucrat rights, if that's not the case then please leave a notice on Stewards' noticeboard so we can fix it immediately. Do not hesitate to ask questions if your question was not answered in our FAQ. Also, if you want a extension, gadget, or anything else, please ask us here. Thank you for choosing Miraheze, and we wish you good luck with your wiki! Reception123 (talk) (C) 19:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Reception123: I was going to say that was a matter of seconds, but the log says it took 4 whole minutes. Thanks! Spıke (talk)20:01 6-Nov-2017

Template as a sign[edit source]

Hi!

English Wikipedia, which is perhaps the wealthiest-resourced wiki in the world, prohibits using {{User:Example/sig}} in signature, and I ask you if you can do same for us (and you). There are few good reason, which I'll paste from enwiki:

  • Signature templates are vandalism targets, and will be forever, even if the user leaves the project.
  • Signature templates are a small but unnecessary drain on the servers. Transcluded signatures require extra processing—whenever you change your signature source, all talk pages you have posted on must be re-cached.
  • User mention notifications will not work if the mentioning user's signature is contained in a template.

I think mentioning malfunction should be enough reason to consider you not using template as a sign. If you wish, I can do the one-time substitution using my bot (so it doesn't flood RC). Thanks! — revi 12:32, 30 November 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Revi: If this becomes Miraheze policy, I'll obey it; but citing a widely ignored Wikipedia policy (notoriously ignored by their Admins) does not make it policy here. This seems like a non-problem on the order of the penalty formerly assessed by the National Football League against players dancing after touchdowns. I have no problem seeing posts here that are directed to me. Wikipedia's stated alternative, spilling the code into posts rather than invoking a template, was actively discouraged on Wikia Uncyclopedia, and @Borderman: and I discussed it on Meta as well; it makes it tedious to read posts via diff reports. If vandalism is a concern, you are welcome to semi-protect my (two) signature pages. I have not changed the source in ten weeks, but do eventually plan to petition for a username change, after which the signature templates would make it easy to re-point to a new talk page. Spıke (talk)15:12 30-Nov-2017
  1. Your ping did not trigger. And it will not, unless you change it, per my suggestion.
  2. I do not understand your 'National Football League' stuff. I haven't watched Football in my whole life, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
  3. This is about performance rather than vandalism. Whenever you (or somebody else) change the template, that triggers all the page to be re-rendered, which will be bit of a burden (maybe not to worry right now, but what if that page is transcluded on enough pages?) for the jobqueue. — revi 15:26, 30 November 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for telling me about the Mirror[edit source]

I was too busy to read it, but I can use it in my argument that the WMF and Miraheze need to collaborate. See wikiversity:User:Guy_vandegrift/Blog/Draft_space_governance#Miraheze--Guy vandegrift (talk) 11:36, 18 January 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oy, no one has time to read it. You might cite our Gazetteer of wikis, a terse, author-written guide to the content here? There is still something missing. WikiMedia Foundation members need to observe stop lights but this doesn't prove that they and the Traffic Patrol "need to collaborate." Spıke (talk)12:07 18-Jan-2018

on Spike-from-NH[edit source]

Hi, I just want to make sure whether Spike-from-NH is actually you. He claims to be you, but seems more like... someone else I know on another wiki.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs | global🌎) 12:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)modded.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs | global🌎) 12:06, 19 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry for the delay; Miraheze has elected to be unreachable from my kitchen-table browser and I only come to this other PC when necessary.
I am from NH,[1] but have never used that username at Miraheze, and I have not edited on Meta since my listed edit of 5-Jan. I have edited my rfobasic.miraheze.org several times this month, and am here tonight to consult it. This editor is not me. His 6 edits to the dormant satire news wiki themirror.miraheze.org you have mass-deleted. (I researched this in detail before comparing the three characters, which I cannot see, to your username!)
The intent of these edits seems to have been to install one satire news article from the Wikia Uncyclopedia "UnNews" news service, which I left and started The Mirror. Your mass deletion correctly claims a copyright violation.[2] The author of the original article is admin Romartus, an adult and a friend, who has better things to do than either to flog his articles on my inactive wiki or to claim to be me. (Romartus's article on Wikia Uncyclopedia was vandalized by the insertion of Vietnamese and Arabic text, which seems to be independent from the edits here.)
Thank you for patrolling The Mirror, and your hunch as to the editor's true identity is worth following! Spıke (talk)00:24 26-Jan-2019
PS--I see that he is registered as a bureaucrat and sysop on uncyclopedia2.miraheze.org, with which I have never been involved. I strongly object to any use of that username on any Uncyclopedia fork at Miraheze, as the overwhelming implication is that the user is me, and this is fraudulent. Spıke (talk)00:28 26-Jan-2019
OK, thanks for your information. It's now an issue that a Stew handles, and I think the issue will be dealt soon.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs | global🌎) 01:14, 26 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Uh, thanks for your footnotes, but that case is still a copyright violation because your wiki is licensed under CC-BY-SA, which is incompatible with CC-BY-NC-SA.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs | global🌎) 04:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I haven't studied this enough to contradict you, as my content is all original. Cheers. Spıke (talk)05:39 28-Jan-2019

  1. That being the US state of New Hampshire
  2. @開拓者: Uncyclopedia's Miley Spears states that it is not a copyright violation under Uncyclopedia's CC-BY-NC-SA, but Romartus states that Uncyclopedia's stance has been not to endorse taking or giving of content between forks without the author's support. Use of the material is not the problem; disruption/deception is.

@開拓者: Back to your original point, he does seem very much like another user, Psl631 I'd guess, and in my opinion his presence on Miraheze is not to produce original content. At its most benign, he is here to assemble a collection of other people's work that he can "own." Spıke (talk)22:17 1-Feb-2019

Psl631 on Miraheze said that Psl631 on wikia is another impersonation (on our Discord channel of UCP 2.0). I'm not sure about it, but it could be. What I do know is that there have been several impersonations against those who are on Uncyclopedia 2.0 everywhere (including but not limited to IRC and Discord), and now I'm also impersonated not only on Wikia but also on ENWP (surprisingly, given that I'm a Japanse native).--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs | global🌎) 11:28, 2 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[Inaccessibility][edit source]

As a sysadmin, I would just like to know what you mean by "Miraheze has elected to be unreachable from my kitchen-table browser", as I can assure you we do not wish that at all, and we hope that Miraheze can be accessed by as many devices and software as possible. Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:38, 2 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My friend, Miraheze certainly does not hope that! See User talk:John#Dropping support for TLS versions. Spıke (talk)04:21 6-Feb-2019
Well, as John said, it is better for security reasons and they are being phased out by other sites (not only by us). If you don't mind me asking, why do you not upgrade to a more recent version of your browser to avoid not being able to access other sites too other than Miraheze? Reception123 (talk) (C) 11:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That unit is the way I like it; it has a custom .FON file and standing orders that minimize data traffic and minimize commercial annoyances. Modern versions have a dumbed-down control panel, generally reserve the right to upgrade themselves at my expense, and pursue the interests of advertisers in place of my interests. Spıke (talk)02:10 16-Feb-2019

Multiplying like rabbits[edit source]

Romartus, Admin on Uncyclopedia (Wikia) tells me that Roza, ex-Admin on Uncyclopedia (fork) has started a wiki here after being dumped from the fork for being imperious, by its imperious owner. Surely Miraheze will not mind if any number of Uncyclopedians create wikis here to try to be Uncyclopedia in all respects except the existence of a community. After all, y'all granted me TheMirror.miraheze.org (on which, by the way, NY Times gets flak for calling physicist a "climate dentist"). Spıke (talk)06:12 24-Feb-2019

As Chairman Mao once apparently said, 'Let a 1,000 Uncyclopedias flourish - all the better to track down the authors later'. (Little Red Book. Digital edition by Xi Jinping). --Romartus (talk) 11:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yup, a personal hero of mine, to be sure, both of 'em in fact, validating leaders "on a power trip," as Miley Spears would put it. Welcome back! Spıke (talk)02:13 28-Feb-2019

PS—to @Reception123:—Even more recently, Wikia has declared its intention to drop its hosting of original Uncyclopedia, in view of my obviously "racist" African-Americans and other pages in the venerated "Deliberately Offensive" category, they being stereotypical San Francisco swells professing diversity until it actually happens. This would be a fine acquisition for Miraheze, which I have advocated there. Spıke (talk)02:13 28-Feb-2019

Invitation[edit source]

Hello, I am a user of Sacred Desgalipedia, Galician version of the Uncyclopedia and I came here to give you an invitation. Beyond good news. Wikia/FANDOM is getting rid of uncys due to content problems of its articles and since last Thursday there are plans to possibly join the uncyclopedia.co version as well as the transfer of other wikis to other server farms. Well, it's a situation that will take a lot of discussion by the end of March. Well, as it should be the real Uncy Spike, I'll give you the Discord link if you want to see your old mates. User:Rhubella Marie/ass 00:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry; it is not "beyond good news." It is not news at all that the impostor Uncyclopedia's attempt to stampede talent onto it has entered a sixth year, now made urgent by the meltdown of Wikia's promise to host it. I do not believe in an Uncyclopedia that is the property of a couple of its editors, and that was the motive for the split in 2013, and the reason for my refusal in 2013. I have advocated that Uncyclopedia seek a new home at Miraheze, where the Stewards will be a final arbiter of any issues that the officials cannot resolve by themselves. My "old mates" know exactly where I am. Spıke (talk)04:39 4-Mar-2019

A barnstar for you![edit source]

The Original Barnstar
Thanks! LegoMaster (talk - contribs - logs - uploads - global contribs) 00:59, 2 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@LegoMaster: Thank you! Unfortunately, so much time has passed that I don't know/remember what you are praising me for! Spıke (talk)23:42 3-Apr-2019

Hello[edit source]

Hi Spike, Sorry things had to end this way. Looks like we still have a few days on the old site left, and Wikia's technical support team has not yet got around to contacting me yet. Meanwhile, much of the old site can be found at archive.org, which hopefully is compatible with Firefox 10 (and is certainly less prone to advertising!). Just wanted to say hi, and give you another way of accessing some of the content after the old site closes. Simsilikesims (talk) 20:53, 5 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks, Simsie. Might someday make a bound volume of my FAs (to go on the shelf next to my manuals for Digital Equipment Corporation). My new stuff is at https://TheMirror.miraheze.org where there is currently an India side-by-side. Have had to fire up Firefox 52 Pickup, anyway, to be here (though I'm using the phone right now). Spıke (talk)22:36 5-Apr-2019

Donation[edit source]

I have your check, I've just been too lazy to take it to the bank because reasons. At least 1040 reasons. Will do it next week and update Finance, thanks again --Labster (talk) 07:13, 14 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Labster: Your priorities are correct; I don't send auditors Spıke (talk)01:44 15-Apr-2019

The users have rights too, you know![edit source]

Hello.

I've been really treated badly by an admin called Spike. Is it you? Because if it's you, we need to talk... You seem to run away each time someone tries to communicate with you, and to tell you what is wrong. Have you got this same behaviour here? --PERCE-NEIGE (talk) 22:37, 3 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you feel you have been treated badly on a wiki, you should discuss it on that wiki. Not pester similarly named people on other wikis, assert a character defect, and demand a confrontation. Spıke (talk)23:24 5-Jun-2019
Yes, very badly, and I send proof that I wasn't the only one to have been treated badly by you to all the wikis where you were admins, because I wasn't able to reach you to speak calmly and politely. When you blocked me for no reason, you removed all possibility for me to explain or to chat with you, so I had to protest against you in another way. Being blocked is not a problem, being denied the right to communicate to solve a quiproquo is clearly abusing of mod tools. And like I said, I collected several pages of protest against you, I've the screenshots. It's not nice of me, but you let no choice to people victims of the abuses.

WikiSports[edit source]

Please join WikiSports, the free sports encyclopedia that I will be the founder of and partnered with Miraheze. Then link address will be at: Official website when available! I will tell you when it is available! Huntress (Talk to me!) 17:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wiki Creator[edit source]

Hi, I wondered if you'd ever considered Wiki Creator as it's an area where help is always needed and if you did I'd likely support or nominate you as I think you'd be a great fit. Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - on) 20:15, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the invitation, but currently more of my "management" time is spent over at uncyclopedia.ca, the attempt to keep alive the classic Uncyclopedia. Spıke (talk)18:26 5-Sep-2019
No problem, good luck keeping it going. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - on) 20:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit source]

The Special Barnstar
You are doing a wonderful job on this wiki ~'Sourav Halder' 02:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Withdrawal of RfC[edit source]

Hi. I've seen that you decided to withdraw your RfC. I think that's a shame, and the fact is that not many users are on Meta and check the Community noticeboard frequently, so I wouldn't take it as a surprise that there weren't many reactions to your draft RfC. With the drafts I made, usually I ask users to take a look separately for them to do so. Reception123 (talk) (C) 05:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Very well, I'll move it to mainspace. You can delete the redirect and do whatever is necessary to list it as an active RfC. Spıke (talk) 13:00 24-Jun-2020
I've left my thoughts on the final proposal on the page. I feel that we can find a common ground. Reception123 (talk) (C) 17:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A cup of tea for you![edit source]

Thank you for always listening to me.Your advice has always helped me a lot. 松•Matsu (talk) 16:13, 29 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Style conventions for struck votes in RfCs and permissions requests[edit source]

Hi Spike,

Thank you for your good-faith WikiGnoming in the current active RfC. While I do understand your desire to not have struck votes "count" in terms of the numbered lists, and this was my first inclination as well on the Wikimedia wikis; however, as was explained to me, this style convention explains well, I think, the reason why it is undesirable to change list styles (i.e., ordered and unordered) at the same hierarchical level. Thus, I have partially reverted some of your edits (#1, #2, and #3) with these edits (#1, #2, and #3). Admittedly, in the practice, our practices have been somewhat inconsistent in past RfC and permissions requests discussions, so some sort of AWB or manual minor wiki maintenance work would likely be helpful at some point in the future; however, this is quite low on the priority list of wiki maintenance.

Anyway, hope that helps, and thanks again for your other maintenance and contributions. :)

Cheers,
Dmehus (talk) 22:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Follow up to your good-faith notice of the creation of a RfC[edit source]

Hi Spike,

As promised here, I am following up with you here on your user talk page. While I can appreciate your wanting to move forward with the creation of an RfC to change the default RC value for all wikis, I have moved the RfC to this subpage of your userspace for a several reasons, which I'll itemize in turn:

  1. In this comment, you indicated your reluctance to changing the default RC value globally so as not "upend" local wikis' procedures. As just one alternative, I suggested that @Avengium: might engage local wiki bureaucrats, or a steward, where the bureaucrats are not active, to change the default maximum RC value on wikis he monitors as a way to minimize the global change while not infringing on local wikis' autonomy by setting the maximum default RC value for all wikis, some of which no doubt Avengium doesn't even monitor
  2. In that same comment, I suggested the preferred alternative would be to have us all agree on a proposal to move forward with on community noticeboard, whether in a thread on the same noticeboard or as a separate sub-section of that discussion, on which we'd all vote and other users would be encouraged to participate in the discussion
  3. Since your proposed RfC contained only one global proposal, and did not contain contain competing proposals, we generally like to encourage community noticeboard discussions for such matters, with RfCs mainly relating to proposed new global policies, global groups, local Meta user groups, and particularly when more than competing proposal is involved

I'm happy to move forward with your proposal, but for the above reasons, I would like you to clarify your original position. Did I perhaps misunderstand your original counter proposal, or perhaps your proposal wasn't as clear than otherwise originally envisioned? In any case, I'm hoping you can clarify that. Additionally, I would also like to know why you've proposed increasing the maximum default RC setting to 180 days, when that wasn't even really discussed (45-60 days was discussed, as I recall). So, I am hoping you might be able to shed some insight there.

With those clarifications, as I say, I'm happy to move forward with your proposal, but if we're only going to propose your single proposal for discussion, I think we should copy it over to the community noticeboard thread, in a new sub-section of the discussion, as opposed to creating a separate RfC. If, on the other hand, we decide to propose several alternative proposals, then a RfC makes the most sense.

Thanks so much for your attention to this message, and I look forward to hearing back from you soon. :)

Cheers,
Dmehus (talk) 03:09, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Signature[edit source]

Hi,

Would you mind using the standard date format as otherwise it breaks the new reply links? I'm not sure when but there is the possibility that the software will enforce it in future.

Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (on) 16:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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