6JSC/CILIP/2

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6JSC/CILIP/2: Date of signing a treaty (6.29.1.33, 6.29.3.3)

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General comments

Text of proposal

I do not see a conflict between the benefit of recording the full date of a treaty’s signing but only using the year when formulating an access point. MYERS, MARBI Liaison, 2011/08/16

I'm not sure if there is an actual issue here that needs to be responded to. The proposal itself says "Make no changes." However, I think it would be better for the long-term uptake and implementation of RDA if 6.20.3.3 (and any similar elements) said to record the date in the ISO 8601 date format (YYYY-MM-DD). The date could be displayed by algorithm in written out format if desired or shortened for certain access points. It would probably be more compatible with linked data and could be displayed in different languages if desired. --J. Hostage 14:18, 8 September 2011 (CDT)



Apologies if this muddies the water, but we have many examples in our catalog of different bilateral treaties between the US and other countries that were signed on the same date.

 France. $t Treaties, etc. $g United States, $d 1923 Feb. 13 (Rights in the Cameroons) (ARN 6056417)
 France. $t Treaties, etc. $g United States, $d 1923 Feb. 13 (Rights in Togoland) (ARN 6056418)
 Finland. $t Treaties, etc. $g United States, $d 1928 June 7 (Arbitration) (ARN 6256225)  
 Finland. $t Treaties, etc. $g United States, $d 1928 June 7 (Conciliation) (ARN 6237349)
 Poland. $t Treaties, etc. $g United States, $d 1996 July 10 (Extradition) (ARN 6925917)
 Poland. $t Treaties, etc. $g United States, $d 1996 July 10 (Mutual legal assistance) (ARN 6925922)

In a catalog that has a lot of bilateral and trilateral treaties, recording just the year a treaty was signed does nothing to assist users who are looking for a treaty signed on a specific date, much less the situation I’m describing. I created the authority records listed above. The parenthetical additions to the dates was the only way I could think of to differentiate treaties on different topics between the same two countries signed on the same date (year/month/day). John Hostage very graciously assisted me in coming up with this solution. RDA does not address this anywhere (nor did AACR2), and I think it should. As I said, this is not an uncommon situation. I ran across it enough times in the treaty materials I was working on that I needed to come up with a solution. I wish AACR2/LCRIs had provided guidance on what to do, and I wish the same with RDA.

-- Glennan (PCC) for Betsy Moon, U.S. Senate Library, 8/16/11
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