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#1 Edited by JJWeatherman (14451 posts) -

Wanted to point out if anyone didn't know that there is a new Wiki Tasks option under the help tab. Apparently mods and staff can flag pages that need to be filled out further, cleaned up, etc. This is something I think has been needed from the beginning and I'm glad it's here. There are even point bounties for each task. It's like taking on a quest in an MMO! OK, now I'm going to far. Anyways, everyone should check it out and start editing more pages.

#2 Posted by ParanoidFreak (1461 posts) -

 Cool idea, should keep the wikis fresh.

#3 Posted by Andorski (5060 posts) -

Thanks for the heads-up.  Unfortunately, I have no knowledge on any of the tasks.

#4 Posted by Teptom (2045 posts) -

Wow.  
 
This is a really nice feature.

#5 Posted by Hamz (6845 posts) -

Pinning this topic until the staff get some form of announcement of their own up :)
 
Any questions, feel free to ask them!

#6 Posted by ArclightBorealis (1563 posts) -

I accepted the task to edit the Portal 2 page what with the announcement today. Very cool feature indeed.

#7 Posted by JJOR64 (18732 posts) -

Awesome new feature!

#8 Posted by DanielJW (4915 posts) -

This is actually awesome.

#9 Posted by C_Rakestraw (798 posts) -

Sweet. I'll get started on some right now.

#10 Posted by fillmoejoe (1469 posts) -

Nice new feature.

#11 Posted by Bunnyman (211 posts) -

Great feature. Just hope it won't encourage more plagiarism. Perhaps an extra close watch will be kept on these pages.

#12 Posted by Flaime (525 posts) -

Fast question
What does these mean:

#13 Posted by Hamz (6845 posts) -
@Flaime: That is the priority level we've set for that particular bounty. The more bars the higher the priority.
 
So if you see a bounty with a higher priority than all the rest then you will likely get far more points and the bounty itself is likely asking for much needed and highly important edits and changes to the page ;)
#14 Posted by NuclearWinter (696 posts) -
@Flaime said:
" Fast question
What does these mean: "
That's the importance of the task. The first two in your image are Medium priority while the third is Low.
Moderator
#15 Posted by erinfizz (1048 posts) -

What an awesome typo:  

 "When closing the task, the moderator assigns the bounty to all members who deserve points based on their desecration."

#16 Posted by ArbitraryWater (10806 posts) -

Alright! This might be just enough for the Wiki to matter again.

#17 Posted by natetodamax (19126 posts) -

I just finished the task for the Activision page!

#18 Posted by natetodamax (19126 posts) -

Is there any way to see who is currently working on a page?

#19 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5347 posts) -

Yes, I just got a 150 point bounty from Jeff for the Halo 3: ODST page. There are still some things I need to do on there though, but I like this feature! 
 
The only problem so far is  that this causes several people to work on a page at once, which I have already noticed causes people's submissions to be lost. I had to re-do some stuff because it got canceled out by another person's submissions, and then I saw someone mention the same thing happened to them after I submitted my own stuff >< 
 
I am not sure of a solution, besides maybe the people who have accepted the task communicating better, but that can be tricky. I wonder if they could make it so when a person accepts a task, no one else can work on it until that person is done? The problem with this is unreliable people accepting a task and then not working on it right away.

#20 Posted by Seedofpower (3902 posts) -

Man, what a good Idea. I'm gonna add this page as a book mark.

#21 Posted by natetodamax (19126 posts) -
@Vito_Raliffe: It would be really good if you could view who was currently editing the page so you could prevent people from changing things while you are changing things.
#22 Posted by FunExplosions (5407 posts) -

Lmao at the "Grass" concept, and its apparent over-use.

#23 Posted by NoXious (1335 posts) -

I like the idea a lot! I am looking forward to hitting it up every day to see if there's any cool catches I can fill in :-)
I am not going to replay Neverwinter Nights to finish up Aribeth's bio though. NWN is too dated with Dragon Age out now, it's not exactly a superb singleplayer experience either.

#24 Posted by JJWeatherman (14451 posts) -

Hey sweet, my topic got pinned. This feature rocks. I'm gonna go see what I can fill the MLB 2K10 page out with. Seems like I'm one of the few sports game fans here so it may be up to me.  :P

#25 Posted by Yummylee (20134 posts) -

Now to wait for a edit request I actually know something about =/
#26 Posted by MetalGearSunny (6981 posts) -

Great feature!!

#27 Posted by Potter9156 (935 posts) -

Great idea. Finally got me back into editing.

#28 Posted by Red12b (9032 posts) -

I have to say, I really like this feature, Snide has been teasing us with Wiki Goodness, and they have delivered. 

#29 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5347 posts) -
@natetodamax said:
" @Vito_Raliffe: It would be really good if you could view who was currently editing the page so you could prevent people from changing things while you are changing things. "
Yeah, that would be useful. While you can see if someone has chosen to work on it, you don't know if they are actually changing anything at that very moment. Maybe when on the page, being able to see a list of users currently editing would help.
#30 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5115 posts) -
@Vito_Raliffe said:
" @natetodamax said:
" @Vito_Raliffe: It would be really good if you could view who was currently editing the page so you could prevent people from changing things while you are changing things. "
Yeah, that would be useful. While you can see if someone has chosen to work on it, you don't know if they are actually changing anything at that very moment. Maybe when on the page, being able to see a list of users currently editing would help. "

Ya, I just spent awhile editing a page but i kept getting getting errors, so I refreshed the page and it had been filled out....GB has been extremely glitchy for me all day.
#31 Edited by Lies (3866 posts) -
@Vito_Raliffe said:

" @natetodamax said:

" @Vito_Raliffe: It would be really good if you could view who was currently editing the page so you could prevent people from changing things while you are changing things. "
Yeah, that would be useful. While you can see if someone has chosen to work on it, you don't know if they are actually changing anything at that very moment. Maybe when on the page, being able to see a list of users currently editing would help. "
same shit happens with guides. It's a limitation that will always be there unless they move to a Google Docs-esque solution.
#32 Posted by armaan8014 (5226 posts) -

Cool! Will work when I have the time.

#33 Posted by Lilarcor (206 posts) -

I love this feature, it's the video game wiki equivalent of a hit list. Only... you know, legal. And I get rewarded for knowing way too much about Ocarina of Time.

#34 Posted by snide (2394 posts) -
@Vito_Raliffe said:
" Yes, I just got a 150 point bounty from Jeff for the Halo 3: ODST page. There are still some things I need to do on there though, but I like this feature!  The only problem so far is  that this causes several people to work on a page at once, which I have already noticed causes people's submissions to be lost. I had to re-do some stuff because it got canceled out by another person's submissions, and then I saw someone mention the same thing happened to them after I submitted my own stuff ><  I am not sure of a solution, besides maybe the people who have accepted the task communicating better, but that can be tricky. I wonder if they could make it so when a person accepts a task, no one else can work on it until that person is done? The problem with this is unreliable people accepting a task and then not working on it right away. "
We thought about this, but in the end I'd rather have two people get the bounty than have a person hog the task and not finish it. We're looking into some more real time solutions for editing (possibly blocking editing on a page when we know someone else is doing it) but for now it's really best to just communicate in the comments.
 
We'll likely have a more official announcement about tasks next week. Right now we're just letting you early adopters play around with it and find bugs.
#35 Posted by ArclightBorealis (1563 posts) -

Again, great feature. Finished editing two entries and are now awaiting approval.  
It definetely motivates me more to edit stuff on here again.

#36 Posted by NickL (2246 posts) -
@snide said:
" @Vito_Raliffe said:
" Yes, I just got a 150 point bounty from Jeff for the Halo 3: ODST page. There are still some things I need to do on there though, but I like this feature!  The only problem so far is  that this causes several people to work on a page at once, which I have already noticed causes people's submissions to be lost. I had to re-do some stuff because it got canceled out by another person's submissions, and then I saw someone mention the same thing happened to them after I submitted my own stuff ><  I am not sure of a solution, besides maybe the people who have accepted the task communicating better, but that can be tricky. I wonder if they could make it so when a person accepts a task, no one else can work on it until that person is done? The problem with this is unreliable people accepting a task and then not working on it right away. "
We thought about this, but in the end I'd rather have two people get the bounty than have a person hog the task and not finish it. We're looking into some more real time solutions for editing (possibly blocking editing on a page when we know someone else is doing it) but for now it's really best to just communicate in the comments.  We'll likely have a more official announcement about tasks next week. Right now we're just letting you early adopters play around with it and find bugs. "
i must say this is a fun idea, i just entered my first wiki sub in a while because of it, personally i dont like editing decent wikis, so the fact that this highlights the worse ones is great
#37 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4452 posts) -

Putting out 'bounties', you say? So you could say that someone who searches out and takes on multitudes of tasks is, in a way, a 'bounty hunter'?  
 
This is now Reason #463 that Giantbomb is website excellence epitomized.

#38 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5347 posts) -
@MarkWahlberg: Whoa, are you saying that I can call myself a "Bounty Hunter" and have it be true?! Because, man...that would be AWESOME!
#39 Posted by StarFoxA (5119 posts) -

I think that users with over a certain set amount of points should be able to do something along these lines. I really like this concept, but fear it will become very obsolete if some of the mods stop marking pages.

#40 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4452 posts) -
@Vito_Raliffe said:
" @MarkWahlberg: Whoa, are you saying that I can call myself a "Bounty Hunter" and have it be true?! Because, man...that would be AWESOME! "
I'm saying once they make 'I am an Official Giantbomb Bounty Hunter' t-shirts, you're gonna get a lot of weird looks from authority figures.
#41 Posted by snide (2394 posts) -
@StarFoxA said:
" I think that users with over a certain set amount of points should be able to do something along these lines. I really like this concept, but fear it will become very obsolete if some of the mods stop marking pages. "
Part of the plan! Right now we're just testing things out, but yes, we intend to open this up once we watch the flow of a couple tasks.
#42 Posted by StarFoxA (5119 posts) -
@snide said:
" @StarFoxA said:
" I think that users with over a certain set amount of points should be able to do something along these lines. I really like this concept, but fear it will become very obsolete if some of the mods stop marking pages. "
Part of the plan! Right now we're just testing things out, but yes, we intend to open this up once we watch the flow of a couple tasks. "
Whoo! More support for the wiki!
 
I love you Dave.
#43 Posted by JJWeatherman (14451 posts) -
@snide said:

" @StarFoxA said:

" I think that users with over a certain set amount of points should be able to do something along these lines. I really like this concept, but fear it will become very obsolete if some of the mods stop marking pages. "
Part of the plan! Right now we're just testing things out, but yes, we intend to open this up once we watch the flow of a couple tasks. "
That's a good idea. I want to see this feature going strong forever basically. Maybe it would help to feature the tab more prominently somewhere. Seems a bit hidden as it is.
 
P.S. Nice Santa hat on your avatar pic in March Dave.  :P
#44 Posted by snide (2394 posts) -
@JJWeatherman: That's on purpose at the moment. We're just testing things out this weekend.
#45 Posted by NeoSHODAN (128 posts) -
@JJWeatherman said:   
P.S. Nice Santa hat on your avatar pic in March Dave.  :P "  
@snide said:
" @JJWeatherman: That's on purpose at the moment. We're just testing things out this weekend. "
 
The Santa hat is on purpose?  In March?  And come on, we've been 'trying it out' for a little longer than a weekend ;)
#46 Posted by mracoon (4907 posts) -

As an avid wiki contribute it's really great to finally see some new features. This a great way to get more people to add stuff to pages and it'll just give more to edit in general, which is always nice.

Moderator
#47 Posted by Rallier (1739 posts) -

Great to finnally see some feature encouraging the use of the wiki. 
 
I completed one of the "tasks" (odd name, could not help myself but replace it with the word "bounty" in my mind) and i think that i've noticed a small bug.  When accapting one the small window will slide open but you can click the button again to have the same window slide open a second time under it. I can't really check this since there are no open "tasks" that i can fill in. 
 
The way points are arbitrary rewarded is a bit odd. There is one task for the Neverwinter Nights 2 i believe worth 300 points but completing what is actually asked would already grant the user at least 1000 points. Guess that it still has to be figured out how to exactly reward people people who complete these tasks.

#48 Edited by Hamz (6845 posts) -
@Rallier said:

"The way points are arbitrary rewarded is a bit odd. There is one task for the Neverwinter Nights 2 i believe worth 300 points but completing what is actually asked would already grant the user at least 1000 points. Guess that it still has to be figured out how to exactly reward people people who complete these tasks."

Mods/Staff set the tasks objectives and the reward for achieving them. We also get to select who receives the reward and how much of it based on the level of work they put into the page and the completion of the overall task. In short it's all down to mods and staff discretion, we'll always try to be fair and reward people what we feel they deserve while making sure the original objectives set for the task are met.
 
EDIT - Forgot to mention that just because there is a bounty of 300 on the NWN2 page doesn't necessarily mean it gets awarded all to one person. If six people all pitch in to revamp the NWN2 page then MattBodega (who set the task) may feel all six deserve an equal 50 points each.
#49 Edited by MattyFTM (14211 posts) -
@Rallier said:

"The way points are arbitrary rewarded is a bit odd. There is one task for the Neverwinter Nights 2 i believe worth 300 points but completing what is actually asked would already grant the user at least 1000 points. Guess that it still has to be figured out how to exactly reward people people who complete these tasks. "

Remember that this feature is new to us too, and it'll take a while for us to get used to assigning points values. I think couple of mine are probably on the slightly high side, but it's all part of the natural learning curve that comes with a new feature like this. As we get used to it we'll become better at assigning points bounties and they'll seem less arbitrary and more standard.
Moderator
#50 Edited by Rallier (1739 posts) -
@Hamz: Ha so that is how it works. Could a mod/staff member also reward a user more then the promised bounty if ever the users does a lot more then expected?  Points are a good way to encourage people to started editing the wiki but if there is a say 50 point bounty on a page that would not really encourage them to go full out. 
 
Something like multipliers would be interesting for such. Grant a 50 point bounty but if ever the user makes adds to over 200 points worth of content he or she will get a 10 percent bonus, the total bonus could be limited of course. So if someone would be to complete the bounty with a 300 points edit, that user would get the 50 pointy points and a 30 points bonus. Perhaps this is something that the staff would be interested in adding later on. 
 
An issue i have with this is that it will allow users to pass the 1K limit even faster. That limit should probably be upped or new users should be member for an X amount of time before they can edit moderation free. 
 
@MattyFTM:
Quite understandable yeah, actually i would say that most of the bounties are on the low side now. Especially some of the 50 point ones that asks users to fill in empty pages.
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