tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.comments2018-03-05T01:07:39.843-08:00Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipediasgerbichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comBlogger424125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-85769790644150195492018-03-05T01:07:39.843-08:002018-03-05T01:07:39.843-08:00Your assurances are irrelevant. Evidence is what s...Your assurances are irrelevant. Evidence is what speaks.Azirahaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072925999181472024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-83011919170346422492018-03-01T16:55:24.914-08:002018-03-01T16:55:24.914-08:00Hi. How can I reach you? I am involved in edit wa...Hi. How can I reach you? I am involved in edit wars around the sleazy and corrupt and disgraced evangelist Ravi Zacharias. Every time we post factual information at Wikipedia about his federal lawsuit it gets removed almost immediately. Can someone help on this? <br /> I can be reached at Steve@lawbw.com. Thanks steve baughmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10174580917790766005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-44296947774552467322017-09-11T06:40:05.220-07:002017-09-11T06:40:05.220-07:00Or ESP Address? :POr ESP Address? :PJoe WIlsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14649610509042187581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-15225537963340598642017-09-09T10:46:30.150-07:002017-09-09T10:46:30.150-07:00Thank you so much. I might have got that a bit wro...Thank you so much. I might have got that a bit wrong, I was quoting what I remembered happened when the Mormon (gosh can&#39;t remember his name at the moment) learned when he read the Wikipedia page. <br /><br />I talk often about the important work that goes on by editors on Wikipedia that have no knowledge of GSoW. I say that without their work it would become conservapedia in a few months. GSoW is only a small (but organized) group of editors working to keep WP accurate. <br /><br />Appreciate you posting a comment here. <br /><br />Susan sgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-14002386607639505282017-09-09T10:36:15.008-07:002017-09-09T10:36:15.008-07:00I just read your article on Skeptic Magazine. I ha...I just read your article on Skeptic Magazine. I have to say, it&#39;s amazing what you guys are doing. As a former Mormon, I am making sure that some of the articles on Mormonism are not overrun by apologists. <br /><br />Speaking of which... (and it&#39;s not a big deal, but I think it&#39;s worth correcting for future references), in the article you mentioned that Brigham Young practiced polygamy and polyamory. While it&#39;s true he did, I&#39;m sure what you were referring to in the article is that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy and polyandry, the practice of marrying already married women. He also married two 14 year-old girls. Brigham didn&#39;t marry 14 year olds (I think the youngest one was 16) nor practiced polyandry, at least not to the extent that Smith did. I made a couple of podcasts on the CES letter so I know it better than I probably would want to!!<br /><br />Keep up the good work!M&amp;Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08564027774298961172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-88338054667917994092017-05-27T17:57:45.064-07:002017-05-27T17:57:45.064-07:00I would dearly appreciate any material involving m...I would dearly appreciate any material involving my father Thomas Braun as even 16 years on this is still a very painful and sensitive subject, and I absolutely hate coming across material where people have assumptions over his death and the way he was found. If Leanna Adams had not helped our family find dad he may not have been found and put to rest at all. Regards Brooke St Clair-BraunUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04351864784303010040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-64019251982538161882016-09-20T15:56:41.984-07:002016-09-20T15:56:41.984-07:00Anyone skeptical of homeopathy only needs to do a ...Anyone skeptical of homeopathy only needs to do a proper homeopathic proving. Its a repeatable scientific experiment. Homeopathy is not something that a so-called &quot;skeptic&quot; will accept because it works outside of what has been explained by conventional paradigms. It works on the basis of energy that we havent identified even after 200 years. Do a proving then you can stop blathering about Avogadro&#39;s number. We dont have a unified theory of everything in the Universe! Everyone who has ever been exposed to the ideas of homeopathy is skeptical, until they try it. Do a proving.Roger Bardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15666313202355460107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-85829698579581970782016-09-11T12:26:58.956-07:002016-09-11T12:26:58.956-07:00Don&#39;t be fooled by Wikipedia claims here becau...Don&#39;t be fooled by Wikipedia claims here because the effect of guerilla skepticism has not been so much to remove merely unsourced claims of pseudoscience, but to embrace the unsourced claims of the reductionist materialist community. Therefore, the reporting has become very skewed in favor of skeptic camp and their targeting of those who do not agree with them. You will note that all such targets now receive skewed Wikipedia articles that misrepresent them. Roy Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14250985169529099447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-55682549711287753912016-09-06T05:03:31.335-07:002016-09-06T05:03:31.335-07:00Nicely done set of articles. Perhaps one on Dr Stu...Nicely done set of articles. Perhaps one on Dr Stuart Robbins and his Exposing PseudoAstronomy podcast now that he is free to broadcast again.Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08885769183690278872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-51619873791663397492016-08-10T00:05:32.832-07:002016-08-10T00:05:32.832-07:00I know your expertise on this. I must say we shoul...I know your expertise on this. I must say we should have an online discussion on this. Writing only comments will close the discussion straight away! And will restrict the benefits from this information.<br /><a href="http://www.cheappsychicreadingss.com/questions-to-ask-a-psychic/" rel="nofollow">visit here for more info</a><br />Davidjohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736251503579482269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-13064425694950733482016-08-08T04:52:29.406-07:002016-08-08T04:52:29.406-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.mubahir alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10772664915977287531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-49066485041944869542016-07-02T06:56:22.625-07:002016-07-02T06:56:22.625-07:00Wikipedia is the No.1 encyclopedia in the world. T...<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Matrimonial_website.jpg" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a> is the No.1 encyclopedia in the world. There are more than 10 million visitors every month.<br />Priyanka Rawalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654000658721717338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-83683424664866216842016-05-03T16:49:23.506-07:002016-05-03T16:49:23.506-07:00Well it would be a normal IP address, but in this ...Well it would be a normal IP address, but in this case it is super special ISP addresses. That is what the &quot;S&quot; stands for... &quot;special&quot;. ;-)sgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-43788565423786095752016-05-03T14:06:03.086-07:002016-05-03T14:06:03.086-07:00Do you mean IP address? :)Do you mean IP address? :)Kelson Ballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693882803082219703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-4820385008098669432015-11-05T06:20:36.543-08:002015-11-05T06:20:36.543-08:00&quot;Al Seckel&quot;: did he actually write any N...&quot;Al Seckel&quot;: did he actually write any Nat&#39;l Geog. Kids columns as claimed? He also claimed to have written NeuroQuest column for Discover magazine, but never did. Entry also claims he is working with Harvard researchers. In fact I contacted Kosslyn and denied this. The major problem with the &quot;Seckel&quot; entry is that he wrote it himself, and he is a liar. It was heavily edited and cut, but what remains is still hiis own claims. Many of the links are dead or do not support the text. Entry should be rewritten from scratch rather than relying on his own claims. One laudatory article he cites from LA Times says he has double Cornell degree and was Caltech grad student--lies he told the reporter. I tried to edit the entry years ago but Seckel sued me for libel (I had exposed his phony credential claims previously, and reported on some of the many fraud allegations). Now I am not allowed to even comment on the &quot;talk&quot; pages simply because he sued me. Legal intimidation works.Tom McIverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15806950544490691694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-1533164334662849532015-08-16T13:11:12.387-07:002015-08-16T13:11:12.387-07:00Hope that was clear, typed it out on my phone whil...Hope that was clear, typed it out on my phone while on a quick break at work. :-)sgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-53403436262130745292015-08-16T13:09:49.146-07:002015-08-16T13:09:49.146-07:00It took me over a year to come up with the trainin...It took me over a year to come up with the training program, through trial and error I learned. <br /><br />Most people who join have never made a Wikipedia edit before. Some are very nervous about doing so.<br /><br />But I learned if I put off allowing them to make a edit they get frustrated. <br /><br />I learned somewhere about the authorlink and made it into a task that they can do without anyone helping them. Unless they need the help then I will skype or whatever helps them.<br /><br />In the workshop I did at TAM (see video) every authorlink was already pre-done for them. I had 100 cards with the exact change that needed to be made on it, every page was different so we didn&#39;t have a edit conflict.<br /><br />When I wrote out the cards I had to go to the Wikipedia page and many times change the citation code so it matched exactly |first=name|last=name|<br /><br />Many were with some older type of citation.<br /><br />Then I made the authorlink edit, checked preview and looked toake sure it worked, then levy the page without saving the edit. In other words a lot of prep work<br /><br />I had tested this on real people who were making their first edits and discovered that without the cards, they were really time consuming to do. Even when I told them what page to go to. <br /><br />Trust me I wanted to do a lot more, and something much more than authorlink but to most new people, this was overwhelming.<br /><br />Remember I&#39;m dealing with a segment of the population that are not comfortable doing this kind of thing, but once they got it they are super excited. They authorlink task is enough.<br /><br />If I had time I would have moved to another task involving hyperlinking to unusual pages, getting a target page mentioned on a page that it would normally not be thought of being put on. I call this assignment 6, cause that is the sixth task in GSoW training.<br /><br />I want them to learn to think creatively. Small edits that make more potential views. <br /><br />But assignment six is very little editing and a lot of thinking and searching Wikipedia. <br /><br />I&#39;m planning on recording this for and upcoming Skepticality segment, one of my favorite tasks. <br /><br />In a nutshell it is this.<br /><br />You find a Wikipedia page and read it over, usually a persons page. You look for a mention that they went to xyz high school. Then you go to the Wikipedia page for xyz and leave a hyperlink back to your targets page under the &quot;alumni&quot; area. <br /><br />There are many examples you can do including listing the target on a page that is for people of the same last name or where they were born or whatever.<br /><br />It&#39;s a blast and requires lots of creative thinking. <br /><br />For a good example look at the page for Emery Emery. On the left side click on &quot;what links here&quot; and check out some of the places we have hyperlinked him toosgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-73066508174719055442015-08-16T09:24:53.599-07:002015-08-16T09:24:53.599-07:00Good point. Looking more closely, I see that you&#...Good point. Looking more closely, I see that you&#39;re focused on a few, very specific things, rather than teaching a broad range of Wikipedia editing. And for that, I can see teaching the code to be fine.<br /><br />Which raises a different question: Why teach how to add authorlink parameters to a citation, rather than how to add a citation (with some related text)? I say that as someone who has never seen authorlinks as being particularly important (perhaps mistakenly), but absolutely believes that text supported by a good source, in a footnote, not only encourages readers to go to the original source, but helps protect the text from being removed.John Broughtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12353543133720598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-69313488986656980312015-08-14T19:33:47.841-07:002015-08-14T19:33:47.841-07:00Good question John. Really I hadn&#39;t. I am se...Good question John.<br /><br />Really I hadn&#39;t. I am self taught and figure if I can learn it, then most others can. :-)<br /><br />But really the answer is that we don&#39;t have a lot of problems with teaching people the code. What we come up against all the time is people not sure what to actually write once they have the citation. They find that organizing the project and sorting through all the citations are stumbling blocks.<br /><br /><br />sgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-30394915526339759602015-08-14T19:27:59.116-07:002015-08-14T19:27:59.116-07:00Have you considered teaching people to edit Wikipe...Have you considered teaching people to edit Wikipedia using VisualEditor, rather than the older wikitext editing interface?John Broughtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12353543133720598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-72564930260643276042015-08-14T15:43:25.816-07:002015-08-14T15:43:25.816-07:00Interesting analysis. It seems that Wikipedia migh...Interesting analysis. It seems that Wikipedia might need to lock down pages even tighter than the semi-edit lock on certain pages. The talk page should be the only way to get a agreement on what to add. But this would require more admins (a dwindling number already) to manage this. <br /><br />Also I would say that identifying the editors on WP is a very bad idea. What criteria would be used? How would they prove who the person is? What would be the reason, unless it is to ban someone or keep them from editing? Its a bad idea and again not enough staff to manage it. <br /><br />Wikipedia should stay open-source and editors can remain anon. (I edit under my name Sgerbic BTW) <br /><br />If there are issues they will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. sgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-74802020513219303822015-08-14T15:16:01.562-07:002015-08-14T15:16:01.562-07:00&quot;On Wikipedia, politically controversial scie...&quot;On Wikipedia, politically controversial science topics vulnerable to information sabotage&quot; --Science Daily<br />http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150814145711.htmUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10571307579816967808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-80641246860571979072015-08-10T20:43:39.800-07:002015-08-10T20:43:39.800-07:00Here you go Unknown. http://guerrillaskepticismo...Here you go Unknown. <br /> http://guerrillaskepticismonwikipedia.blogspot.com/2015/08/gsow-tam13-workshop-flyer-for-editing.htmlsgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-91470278990396887332015-08-10T09:38:36.970-07:002015-08-10T09:38:36.970-07:00Thanks for the link to GSoW on Youtube. I like the...Thanks for the link to GSoW on Youtube. I like the Dry Run of the training which I found there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3N5VKM9Ik Misses the screens, but maybe with the handout...<br /> Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10571307579816967808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061799050413445026.post-80838632530209886502015-08-09T23:28:45.603-07:002015-08-09T23:28:45.603-07:00Oh yes, a lot has changed since that JREF video. G...Oh yes, a lot has changed since that JREF video. GSoW has done a lot of evolving the last couple years. From time to time I hear from paranormal groups that are crying about GSoW, but they keep quoting the same video, as if that is the only video I&#39;ve done. <br /><br />I don&#39;t have the handout anywhere, but probably should. I&#39;m away from the computer that has that form on it, I&#39;ll try to remember to upload it.<br /><br />I do have a video on authorlinks on the GSoW youtube channel.sgerbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354138750695010886noreply@blogger.com
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