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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-02-24 11:52 AM (#309433 - in reply to #309431)
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GearSpear - 2012-02-24 4:08 PM

Agreed.

The "brick wall" topics are almost alway not related to their cars.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems to me that "classic car owners" have some very EXTREME views on politics, economics, government subsidies, and the like and will downright REFUSE to budge ONE "brick" from that "wall" when discussing such extreme views.

Someone else pointed out that this is a "car" forum, why is politics and econimics even being discussed, but that's simply too far fetched, "bricks walls" with OPINIONS *WILL* "voice them".
And unwavering they will be. Just a fact of life.


This is kind of spot on actually - Gosh (you know what I cannot write here) I'm made out of brick myself, but I'm not the wall, I'm just another brick in the wall.
Could very well be that we are extreme because our societies treats us like the dinosaurs we are and we are feeling bad (the real world will be censored, so -letting water) about it.


Good point Wizard!
In the "old days" when finned dinosaurs roamed the earth,men were taught to be tough and deal with life as it came and work problems out for themselves.they didn't have to p***yfoot around the politically correct minefield that surrounds us today.
We now live in a world where men have become overly feminized and instead of working things out privately amongst themselves they run to big brother to fight their battles for them.

Welcome to the real world gentlemen,people have different opinions on everything,not just politics,deal with it and move on.

Too bad they don't make people like they used too.




Edited by 1960DesotoAdventurer 2012-02-24 12:29 PM
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60 dart
Posted 2012-02-24 12:10 PM (#309436 - in reply to #308659)
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i think i'll casually move on to the next thread -----------------------------------------------later
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GearSpear
Posted 2012-02-24 8:15 PM (#309522 - in reply to #308659)
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I'm thoroughly confused - I was PM'd by a moderator because of using SLANG and I'm being accused of using "profanity".
I don't even recall the actual thread, but I have to "publicly" ask, where is the line drawn? From my dictionary, "a puncture made from a needle" as 'slang' is simply not "profanity".

I'm seeing REAL profanity here where female body part slang is asterisked out, a U and a couple of S's being replaced with astericks, so as long as I use ASTERISKS instead of DASHES, there are no words we are not allowed to use, but if we use DASHES instead, we get PM'd by moderators.

Is this seriously a JOKE!?

I'm all fine and dandy with the moderators now instilling a sense of "walk on broken glass", but I seriously must "publicly" ask, WHERE IS THAT LINE DRAWN?

How about the word "redneck"? Are the moderators PM'ing people using that word? I mean, after all, isn't it just a "white n-word"?


My sincerest apologies. I obliged and did what the PM requested I do, but COME ON!
Slang is NOT profanity. I do not use profanity, not in "real" life, not in "cyberspace", I am a bit discouraged of being accused of such.
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-02-24 8:22 PM (#309524 - in reply to #309522)
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"GearSpear"
If you are referring to the post above-
"p***yfoot" isn't profanity,you should know this since you claim to have been a teacher.
Merriam-Webster Dictonary
Main Entry: p***y·foot
Pronunciation: \'pu?-se-?fu?tFunction: intransitive verb
Date: 1903
1 : to tread or move warily or stealthily
2 : to refrain from committing oneself

Alfred Hitch****s name is also not profane,but the filter blocks it out too.

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GearSpear
Posted 2012-02-24 8:28 PM (#309525 - in reply to #308659)
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Correct, *I* am *agreeing* with you!

But the forum did "asterisk" it out, just as they did my use of a SLANG word in who-knows-what thread.
And I was PM'd for using SLANG.

I realize that the "Nether Region" has turned our moderators into "nip it in the bud" assassins [synomym, a murderer] (am I allowed to use that word? I'll see shortly if it gets asterisked out for having an "a" followed by two "s"'s.)

(I tought algebra and trigonometry, a far cry from English and grammar, but anyway, lol.)
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GearSpear
Posted 2012-02-24 8:31 PM (#309526 - in reply to #308659)
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Alfred, good one.

But I'm one up on ya, I found the word assassin to not be filter-blocked
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-02-24 8:34 PM (#309528 - in reply to #308659)
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"nip it in the bud" was Barney Fifes motto and in one episode he wound up arresting pretty much the entire town!
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GearSpear
Posted 2012-02-24 8:44 PM (#309529 - in reply to #308659)
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So I have to ask, were you PM'd for using the word p&@@yfoot?
And will I be because I "self-censored" instead of letting the forum software throw in a couple asterisks?

That's what confuses me - I "self-censored" and replaced the letter "I" with a DASH - then like a whole WEEK later, I'm getting a "nip it in the bud" PM.

Fine, I get it, the nudy pics in the Nether Region has now created an atmosphere where the moderators are "out to get us", fine I get it, but Good God (oh, am I allowed to say that? How about "Good GOLLY" instead?).
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GearSpear
Posted 2012-02-24 8:47 PM (#309530 - in reply to #308659)
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Ok, I'm off the "soap box".

I can't even find the thread the PM was talking about, "nip it in the bud" really isn't very effective if the hand-slap is a WEEK later!


But yes, I get it, we all must walk on broken glass now.
Such is life, so many laws on the books to protect the guilty that us innocent are screwed.
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DeSotohead
Posted 2012-02-24 8:51 PM (#309531 - in reply to #309528)
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I was the moderator that PM'd GearSpear about his usage of a word that references part of the male anatomy to describe people on this forum.
I thought it was rude and plain in not so good taste, and as used was simply inflammatory.

Possiby you didn't understand that part of the PM, although from your profile I do see you understood the second part.

So I will state it again here PUBLICLY for you.

As far as the moderator community and the Administrators are concerned, we are going to crack down on usage of profanity when it is used to emflame the forums and just plain stir up trouble.

If you wish to discuss cars, car parts, procedures for repairing cars, methods of modifying cars, or even just sharing pictures of your cars, other peoples cars, etc. That is fine and fits in the venue of the forum.

But referring to people you don't really know as any sort of demeaning term will not be tolerated. We are going to try and install some civility on this forum.
Either join in or leave. As a teacher you should know that written text has no human emotion attached to it. No tone of voice, inflection, and does not convey body language or facial expressions. It is sterile.
So without the other attributes listed above, it really becomes how the recipient decides to take it in a pretty absolute manner.
You might not have meant to be offensive, but it came across that way to others. Hence I got involved.

Read my edit of your post on page 1 where you used the term. Pretty well spells it out.
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Posted 2012-02-24 8:54 PM (#309532 - in reply to #308659)
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Oh come on now folks...

Imagine you tell a 4-year old to get in the bathtub before bed. The 4-year old takes off his clothes, stands in the bathtub for 20 seconds (without any water, of course) and then claims he did as he was told.

You all have brains. You all can function enough to find your way here on your computers. You all are smart enough to know the spirit of what we're trying to convey, without us having to spell out every nuance and "what-if" situation. If you constantly have to "push the limits" and "test the boundaries" to determine what the rules are, please let me know. I can introduce you to my 4-year old son who is an expert in those behaviors.

Hank's right-on on this.  It's only an us-vs-them situation if people set their mind for it to be so.  If you have a problem with a moderator or any moderating that was done, just PM the moderator/Hank/me and we can discuss it.  Our rules are simple and intended only to maintain civility.  They should not be hard to live by.

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MOPAR-TO-YA
Posted 2012-02-25 2:01 AM (#309559 - in reply to #309532)
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Dave ( Fearless) Is your avatar actually you? It doesn't look like the Dave S. that I met in Tulsa. ..................MO
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Bart_59_Dodge
Posted 2012-02-25 8:09 AM (#309583 - in reply to #309000)
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Yes it was.
1960DesotoAdventurer - 2012-02-21 8:20 PM "Bart_59_Dodge", The Daytonas and Superbirds are very cool cars,you're lucky to have owned one.I really liked the vintage 1969 Daytona photo with the "racestoppers" girls you posted in the girlie pic thread,was that your actual car used in that photo?
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rbmain
Posted 2012-02-25 9:00 AM (#309586 - in reply to #308659)
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I hate rules. I do like when someone with some technical expertise, a command of the King's English, and an able photographer publishes an interesting solution to a Mopar specific problem. Happens too rarely here.
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Chrispy
Posted 2012-02-27 5:40 PM (#309874 - in reply to #308659)
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Keep politics to the nether region where i can avoid it and keep the good stuff in the meat of this forum. I get enough of the political crap on Rennlist (my porsche forum). Be civil, don't start raging in a thread over other peoples choices. I'm waiting to get run out of here by the guys who only see things one way and hate everything else once i get rolling on my mild custom vision for my 58.

I would like to see "build threads" sub section so i can see more of what guys are doing on a day to day basis (like what the Jalopy journal has, but without the chaos of the single forum of everything), though i suppose members rides could be that sub forum.

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firedome
Posted 2012-03-24 5:28 PM (#313685 - in reply to #308659)
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I agree with the rules as written and hope they will be enforced uniformly and vigorously. It is all mostly common snse and most people know when they have gone over the line, or should, and when they do not they need to be told.

I myself do not see any real need for a Nether Region, Sewer, or whatever one wants to call it... it is merely an excuse for superfluous exercises of verbosity that have no real relevance to the reason we are here and perhaps that kind of stuff tends to overflow into regular threads by those with poorer judgement. Why not eliminate them altogether, there are other venues for that kind of garbage. A place for family friendly jokes might be tolerable, but why more?
I'd be perfectly happy with a complete ban on non FL subjects myself, the rest is a waste of bandwidth.
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sconut1
Posted 2012-03-25 1:50 AM (#313729 - in reply to #308659)
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My $0.02..... I agree with the new rules as written. I think they are just common sense, and using the Golden Rule.
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1956DeS
Posted 2012-03-25 6:30 AM (#313739 - in reply to #308659)
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Imagine a sport without rules. Try driving on public roads without rules. A school without rules. War without rules. There are so many sensible examples. Without rules, T-Rex rules (the administrator) .
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60 dart
Posted 2012-03-26 12:16 AM (#313843 - in reply to #308659)
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superfluous exercises of verbosity ...............seems to be a lot of that goin around but i agree in part ------------------------------------------------later
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Posted 2012-03-26 6:53 AM (#313868 - in reply to #313843)
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60 dart - 2012-03-25 12:16 PM

superfluous exercises of verbosity ..............


WHAT!!?? Just WHEN in the he,, double hockey sticks, did you go and get some book learnin' you egnrnt hik?!

THAT statement, did NOT come from yer grubby little fingers! NO way!
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60 dart
Posted 2012-03-26 9:29 AM (#313877 - in reply to #308659)
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hehehe , you might wanna do some more readin there , mr can-can ---------i hate hockey--------------------------------------------------------------later

Edited by 60 dart 2012-03-26 9:32 AM
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firedome
Posted 2012-03-26 8:36 PM (#313965 - in reply to #313877)
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You 2 crack me up... yah, well that's what happens when your're a teacher for 30 yrs, sorry.... guess I shoulda said diarhhea of the mouth, and that's probably more accurate to boot anyhow.. crikey Rick, would you take that picture off, I can't get anything done!
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60 dart
Posted 2012-03-26 11:56 PM (#313996 - in reply to #308659)
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30 yrs. . man i feel so sorry for ya , hehehe . it's still one of the greatest professions ever --------------------------------------------------------------------------later
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mopardude
Posted 2012-04-04 10:55 AM (#315288 - in reply to #308659)
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Id like to see a crack down on suggestive avatars, there very inappropriate to say the least.
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1958 Plymouth Infina
Posted 2012-05-09 4:32 PM (#320424 - in reply to #308659)
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What annoys Me was a thread on a 49 ford parts for sale it was taken own but this is forward look forum.
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sermey
Posted 2012-05-11 4:30 PM (#320701 - in reply to #308659)
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"All posts, attachments, and threads on ForwardLook.net are considered the property of ForwardLook.net and are free for personal use.  Commercial use, harvesting and reposting on other websites all require explicit permission from the site administrators."

Does this means: All posted personal pictures, instructions and technical descriptions cannot be used in any other way by the autor and require an "explicit permission"??? By international law an exclusive Copyright transfer without a specific contract on any subject cannot happen. I think nobody would accept this as is explicitly formulated here!!! It should be mentioned that the autor keeps all his Copyrights. 

What is your opinion?

Another point:

A commitment to members should be stated, to give help or support to each other in basic demands when needed, to contribute some know-how in restoration of FWL-Cars. There are a few member living this spirit, a lot of others could but don't.
Here two recent samples from wellknown members, doing a lot for this forum.

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=40735&posts=1

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=41340&posts=3&start=1

With all the many car owners on the forum here it must be a little disheartening in getting no support. For me it's always a pleasure to contribute or offer some help where possible.  - SERGE -

 



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Bart_59_Dodge
Posted 2012-05-11 7:22 PM (#320714 - in reply to #308659)
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Thank you SERGE for your post. 

Of the 2 threads he references, one is mine. What you don't know is my PM response back to him after he was kind enough to offer his help when nobody else would bother.

It drives home my frustrations so often with this forum and the membership at large ( with some outstanding excepptions). Not wanting to throw gas on the class wars, but I am amazed how much attention is given to an all original pile of dirt and rust, yet with little exception, the average member struggling to build a car can't by a break.

Rather than trying to regulate, the Forum would be better served concentrating on how to better communicate, in the spirit of the sport.

What IS the mission statement of this forum anyhow?

Maybe I misjudged this forums focus and function, and I am just in the wrong place.

Thank you for taking the time to get those measurements for me. With all the 1959 dodge owners on the forum here in America, only you responded. It's a little disheartening.

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Bart Gaffney

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