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  1. Joe Merola says:

    I find that I am seeing a lot of these journals offer that “if article is of high quality” they will waive or reduce the fee. I guess that tells you what most of their articles are by definition.

  2. Joseph says:

    Grace of open access: 42 years old CBS-KNAW Fungal Biodiversity Center selects Elsevier’s open access publishing for their journal Studies in Mycology. For more info please click at the link: http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140602-904493.html

  3. Dee says:

    I worked with research scholars for more than 2 years in Gujarat. By all means, maintain the standard for ethical and legitimate publication, but don’t judge these people too harshly, guys. The level of education in research writing is so minimal there and the pressure to get these numbers in order to get a government (secure) job is so great, that I am absolutely positive, they see this as a service. And, to be fair, they are charging less than $10 for Indians to publish. It’s a sad situation all around and I can only hope that Beall’s continually pointing out the errors will actually help. I’m certainly working toward that.

  4. They have “replied” (if you can make enough sense of their text to call it a reply) to Jeffrey here: https://journalsclub.com/blog/scholarly-open-access/

    • Dan Riley says:

      Please recall to refer to “*The* Jeffery Beall”, please! (ok, now I feel bad about making fun of their non-native English; let me atone by saying that I do appreciate their honesty about their plans for “giving services of […] plagiarism”.)

    • Marco says:

      Apparently, one of their upcoming services will be plagiarism ;-)

    • Dave Langers says:

      One comment (by “journals city” on September 4, 2014 at 9:30 AM) to the reply on that page clarifies the objectives of this Jeffery Bells [sic]: “he ask publihers for payment of US $ 5000 to remove their journals names from http://scholarlyoa.com/ its amazing read this email” followed by a text that is so poorly written that it would fit quite well in the journals club as a manuscript… So someone is giving his bank account for predatory journals to send money to in order to be taken of the list. Even the frauds are being frauded. Funny, almost…

  5. Also: “The author has to prepare the manuscript in Standard English without any typographical mistake. The Author should use Times New Roman has front size 12 throughout the manuscript. The author has to give 1.5 line spacing with before & after 0 ptthroughout the manuscript.” (sic)

  6. herr doktor bimler says:

    I thought the first rule of Journals Club was not to talk about Journals Club.

  7. Prollo says:

    In the comments of the reply (https://journalsclub.com/blog/scholarly-open-access/) there seems to be a (real or fake?) scam message pretending to remove the journal’s name from Beall’s list after payment of $5000 to a turkish bank account.

    I’m between shock and entertainment. Cannot make my mind.

    • herr doktor bimler says:

      It looks like the scam there is genuine, rather than being made up by the offended publisher. The same complaint has turned up on some spamademic publisher’s FB page:

      I also refer you to this list of ingeniously-named journals from a few years ago. The editor / publisher of at least one of them, the Mendeleev Journal of Chemistry, is supposedly one M.K.R.S. VEERA KUMAR (who must add “vile web design” to his other crimes against humanity).

      Anyway, Mr VEERA KUMAR is also warning people that “This shady person has approached me promising that Jeffery Beall [sic] will say nice things about my scam, if I give him $$$.”

      Am I a bad person for hoping that the Turkish second-order grifter has approached *lots* of publishers, promising to have them uncategorised, and that all the others have paid him money?

      • Dee says:

        That is just weird. So “Jeffrey” has hired the Turkish scammer or… what?

      • herr doktor bimler says:

        Update: One of the groups who claim to have received an extortion note, and accuse Jeffrey Beall of being behind it, is (as noted) a FB page called “Journals City”. They’re the ones who contributed to the “Journal Club” comment spew, except for some reason they have signed it “Journals Relaity Team”.

        This is purportedly the work of

        a group of students from Punjab who are working for collection of good journals at University of Punjab and follow jeffery blog regulary

        . They created the page on July 28 2014 in order to accuse Beall of extortion; it has subsequently been dormant, which might be what “regulary” means.

        Despite its limited focus and lack of activity, the “Journals City” FB has received a Like by another FB page, “Academy of IRMBR”. This being yet another mockademic grifter (can be found on Beall’s List). The IRMBR page was set up roughly contemporaneously with “Journals City”, and has not been active, except to shower the latter with approbation.

        Have I mentioned that the Academy of IRMBR also emanates from University of Punjab?

        Anyway, the point I am trying to make with this pile of words is that at least two predatory-journal scammers have received extortion attempts from the unknown Turkey-based apex predator and are now squealing like stuck pigs. Whatever that sounds like. I have never stuck a pig so I use my imagination.

        Both seem to be leading up to the idea that a class-action law suit against Jeffrey Beall is in order; they’re both hinting that other predatory publishers who find themselves in the same position should send them money to be part of the law-suit.

  8. Mike Fainzilber says:

    Jeffrey – seems to me that keeping your list going and up to date is a task akin to cleaning the Aegean Stables… . Perhaps a more feasible task would be to create a list of reputable open access publishers and/or publications? If inclusion in such a list would require the publishers to meet a set of defined criteria for quality and pass a respected committee of independent arbiters, such a list could become a valuable resource. Preparing and maintaining a list of high quality reputable journals might also be a more rewarding task than the one you have currently set yourself…

    • So noted. Be advised that some use the OASPA membership list in such a manner as you describe. Both white-lists and blacklists have their value; one of the weaknesses of a white-list is that it takes time for a journal or publisher to appear on the list, thus eliminating young journals from the list’s coverage. Blacklists are more immediate.

      But you are correct; I cannot do this forever. At some point, it will end.

      • herr doktor bimler says:

        One disadvantage of a whitelist is that the scammers can create their own lists, just as they have created their own publication indices (which happen to rate their own journals highly).

  9. […] “Competition among open-access publishers is getting stronger and stronger,” writes Jeffrey Beall. “To survive, these publishers must invent new ways to stand out and attract more author fees from researchers.” […]

  10. Yasir Quadri says:

    I want to know the status of Serials publications, India. Is it a predatory publisher.

    Prof. Y.A. Quadri

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